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Post by RM5chris on Mar 11, 2010 18:20:18 GMT
and also it was explained that iBus has a PA system, which should encourage drivers to use their voice - not rely on a set of messages that could be seen as a cheap way out (for example: the bus will be held for a short while during a driver changeover, which resulted in the drivers just disappearing off and leaving the bus unattended, as 'we did tell the passengers'.) I have a suspicion that singling out specific individuals would increase the threat/risk of trouble rather than a group (i.e. to the whole bus) announcement. I am sure that your company procedure will state that during driver changes you are not to leave the bus until your replacement arrives - therefore it seems reasonable to me to play that message and wait for the next driver to come. If you mean this message is being misused (as an example the driver plays that message when there is not a driver change so that they can go and get something to eat or drink) is IMO a slightly different matter which hopefully passengers would complain about and the operator investigate and eliminate.
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Post by lc1 on Mar 11, 2010 21:55:59 GMT
If you mean this message is being misused (as an example the driver plays that message when there is not a driver change so that they can go and get something to eat or drink) is IMO a slightly different matter which hopefully passengers would complain about and the operator investigate and eliminate. I just used to tell the passengers that...well we are allowed to go and get some water and they can't see the packet of ciggies in my pocket that was the real reason why I was stopping ;D
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Post by fl70500 on Mar 12, 2010 2:57:05 GMT
and also it was explained that iBus has a PA system, which should encourage drivers to use their voice - not rely on a set of messages that could be seen as a cheap way out (for example: the bus will be held for a short while during a driver changeover, which resulted in the drivers just disappearing off and leaving the bus unattended, as 'we did tell the passengers'.) Yeah can use the PA but it's easier and quicker to push a button and then get driving. Plus I get tongue twisted quite easy so have to go over what i say a couple of times in my head first. As for conflict I'll soon tell them the error of there ways ;D ;D
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Post by Steve80 on Mar 12, 2010 3:03:26 GMT
and also it was explained that iBus has a PA system, which should encourage drivers to use their voice - not rely on a set of messages that could be seen as a cheap way out (for example: the bus will be held for a short while during a driver changeover, which resulted in the drivers just disappearing off and leaving the bus unattended, as 'we did tell the passengers'.) Yeah can use the PA but it's easier and quicker to push a button and then get driving. Plus I get tongue twisted quite easy so have to go over what i say a couple of times in my head first. As for conflict I'll soon tell them the error of there ways ;D ;D Used to find it embarrasing to use the PA. Getting better at it now but I still get it wrong now and again
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Post by eggmiester on Mar 14, 2010 16:06:01 GMT
and also it was explained that iBus has a PA system, which should encourage drivers to use their voice - not rely on a set of messages that could be seen as a cheap way out (for example: the bus will be held for a short while during a driver changeover, which resulted in the drivers just disappearing off and leaving the bus unattended, as 'we did tell the passengers'.) Drivers should never leave a bus with passengers on unattended. If a driver on changeover has to go somewhere quick (toilet for example) then they should either 1. ask another driver or nearby official to man the vehicle whilst the relief driver is making thier way. or 2. alight all the paasengers and isolate the vehicle. Other than that they'd have to wait for the relief driver before leaving the vehicle. i believe this is stated to some extent, in the PCV rule book.
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Post by lonmark on Mar 14, 2010 19:12:31 GMT
What about 'Chislehurst Station, Alight here for Chislehurst Caves' on both Route 162/269 ? will that help?
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Post by greeny253 on Mar 15, 2010 10:25:45 GMT
I have these on my rail replacement route at the moment (London Overground from Stratford to Hampstead Heath) and I have to say I think they are a brilliant idea. Come on TfL - lets have them as standard.
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Post by TA1 on Mar 15, 2010 20:22:42 GMT
one route comes to mind - on the 308 to Wanstead in stratford. i've seen numerous passengers who are not familar with the route require Stratford Station, they obviously are unaware that in the Wanstead direction it doesn't serve Stratford Station and end up in forest gate today, i was heading towards Wanstead and some passengers who boarded the bus at the first stop in Clapton Park ended up in Wanstead.
Personally if it where up to me - i'd think that'd be a candidate to for the alight here announcement.
I Have it at the stop entitled - Stratford/ Romford Road for the 308 only
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Post by Trident on Mar 21, 2010 18:11:15 GMT
one route comes to mind - on the 308 to Wanstead in stratford. i've seen numerous passengers who are not familar with the route require Stratford Station, they obviously are unaware that in the Wanstead direction it doesn't serve Stratford Station and end up in forest gate today, i was heading towards Wanstead and some passengers who boarded the bus at the first stop in Clapton Park ended up in Wanstead. Personally if it where up to me - i'd think that'd be a candidate to for the alight here announcement. I Have it at the stop entitled - Stratford/ Romford Road for the 308 only Agreed. I think the 308 ibus towards Wanstead should say Stratford/Romford Road alight here for Stratford Station
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Post by smiler52 on Mar 22, 2010 0:21:03 GMT
the 211 will say westminter bridge Alight Here for St Thomas' hospital its been doing that for a long time
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Post by T.R. on Mar 24, 2010 13:05:27 GMT
There's also one for St Georges Hospital when on the 57
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Post by lc1 on Mar 26, 2010 8:14:26 GMT
and also it was explained that iBus has a PA system, which should encourage drivers to use their voice - not rely on a set of messages that could be seen as a cheap way out (for example: the bus will be held for a short while during a driver changeover, which resulted in the drivers just disappearing off and leaving the bus unattended, as 'we did tell the passengers'.) Drivers should never leave a bus with passengers on unattended. If a driver on changeover has to go somewhere quick (toilet for example) then they should either 1. ask another driver or nearby official to man the vehicle whilst the relief driver is making thier way. or 2. alight all the paasengers and isolate the vehicle. Other than that they'd have to wait for the relief driver before leaving the vehicle. i believe this is stated to some extent, in the PCV rule book. Yeah, BUT I think it is also contained within that a driver CAN leave the vehicle unattend in the case of an emergency...now the question is does needing the toilet class as an emergency? IMO yes. As for the alight here announcements I REALLY want this on the N89 for Charing Cross station, allight here for Trafalgar Square, will save a LOT of arguements
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2010 15:22:23 GMT
Also, this happens on route 73 in Newington Green Road:
"Beresford Road, alight here for Canonbury Station"
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Post by Madstuntman on Sept 20, 2010 17:36:23 GMT
Yeah can use the PA but it's easier and quicker to push a button and then get driving. Plus I get tongue twisted quite easy so have to go over what i say a couple of times in my head first. As for conflict I'll soon tell them the error of there ways ;D ;D Used to find it embarrasing to use the PA. Getting better at it now but I still get it wrong now and again I hate using the PA. I will if i have to but I try an avoud it. I'd rather stop the bus get out the cab and address the passengers face to face. I get tounge tied on the PA. Took me ages to get used to talking on the radio when I first started TfL work. Talking about getting it wrong on the PA have you ever ended a sentence on the PA and said "over" as if you was on the radio??
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Post by lc1 on Sept 22, 2010 8:47:47 GMT
Talking about getting it wrong on the PA have you ever ended a sentence on the PA and said "over" as if you was on the radio?? I've not only done it on the PA, but when talking to them face to face And I STILL want the alight here announcement on the N89 (perhaps if I mention it enough I'll get it ;D)
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