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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 25, 2020 23:09:11 GMT
I'd imagine cost would be the only reason - you don't get anything in return for spending extra money when refurbishing a vehicle so why spend that extra money? Very true but HCT are refurbishing these ex-Metroline E200s. If they are going to refurbish them, why have they not used the same interior scheme as most existing vehicles in the fleet? I would have expected HCT to simply replace the seat covers (if needed), using the TFL red moquette, and repaint the exteriors, but keep the rest of the First interior unchanged. Another anomoly with interiors in Arriva's SD fleet, though this has been from new. From around 2009/2010, all DDs in Arriva's London fleet started using a new moquette and white poles rather than yellow/orange. However most of Arriva London's SDs have had yellow poles instead with the new moquette, with the 313's 61reg ENXs instead using orange. During this time, all or most of Arriva's SDs fleet outside of London had white poles. More recently, the 312's EMCs switched to white, followed by the SLSs and earlier batches of E200MMCs, before switching back to yellow from 67reg. Don't see any reason for this when DDs in London and SDs elsewhere kept to the standard colours. I also wonder if Stagecoach will update their interior for new vehicles in London following their upcoming rebrand elsewhere. I could possibly see the 173/174 batch receiving blue poles and a new grey/blue moquette (as well as updated logos)? There was a mix in the Arriva SD fleet, poles were originally yellow, then a few of the 382 batch in 2003/4 were delivered with cream poles. They went back to yellow (and even off canary yellow with the early E200), but when the second corporate interior was unveiled they went to cream. IIRC there now has been a few MMC also gone back to yellow for a short time.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jan 26, 2020 8:49:05 GMT
>>> I hate non London buses and have done for a very long time <<< I'm not letting that little gem slip by without a comment. Whilst there are large areas of the UK where buses are in the doldrums, there are also dynamic operations that are exciting and different and a contrast to the staid, boring and decidedly past-its-best operating scene in London. You say you dislike single doors. In the London context with people both boarding and alighting at almost every stop double doors make sense; but in most towns and rural areas, people are predominantly boarding on journeys into town and alighting on journeys away from town. In that context a second door is largely unnecessary, and it is easier for the driver to supervise the safety of passengers boarding and alighting with a single entrance/exit. Before you write off everything outside London, take yourself to Cambridge and have a ride on one of those stupendous three-axle ADL Enviro400XLBs on the Cambridgeshire Busway. Go to Grays or Crawley and see EnsignBus and MetroBus making a stunning success of running routes after Arriva threw in the towel. Or buy a day return to Reading with a Reading PlusBus and let them show you how buses should be done. I agree, in fact I find the London bus scene a bit dull compared to some other parts of the country. If all London buses had to have standard interiors rather than operators' choice of moquette, I have lost interest in many rides by now.
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Post by kmkcheng on Jan 27, 2020 20:12:10 GMT
1340 on its first day with HCT in the 309. I believe it is displaying the correct Bethnal Green Bonner Road terminus on the blinds rather than the ‘Chest hospital’ terminus which the current 309 buses have been displaying. The hospital itself closed a few years ago (Photo not by me) www.flickr.com/photos/148377450@N05/49451481707/
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Post by rj131 on Jan 27, 2020 21:25:37 GMT
1340 on its first day with HCT in the 309. I believe it is displaying the correct Bethnal Green Bonner Road terminus on the blinds rather than the ‘Chest hospital’ terminus which the current 309 buses have been displaying. The hospital itself closed a few years ago (Photo not by me) www.flickr.com/photos/148377450@N05/49451481707/Thats an odd looking moquette. Is that the same moquette as in the 309’s solos?
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jan 27, 2020 21:27:54 GMT
1340 on its first day with HCT in the 309. I believe it is displaying the correct Bethnal Green Bonner Road terminus on the blinds rather than the ‘Chest hospital’ terminus which the current 309 buses have been displaying. The hospital itself closed a few years ago (Photo not by me) www.flickr.com/photos/148377450@N05/49451481707/Thats an odd looking moquette. Is that the same moquette as in the 309’s solos? It's not totally new to CT Plus, the 309s buses don't have it although there is a batch of Solos which do - I believe the W12s? The 212s Scanias also had the same moquette alongside Scania Demos (coded 80019 and 80021 under Stagecoach).
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 27, 2020 22:20:07 GMT
Thats an odd looking moquette. Is that the same moquette as in the 309’s solos? It's not totally new to CT Plus, the 309s buses don't have it although there is a batch of Solos which do - I believe the W12s? The 212s Scanias also had the same moquette alongside Scania Demos (coded 80019 and 80021 under Stagecoach). That was CT Plus corporate moquette until around 2013/14 when they went for their own design which was red based and had the 'c' logo into it. They seem to have ditched that over the past 3 years for the E400 City style moquette.
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Post by busoccultation on Jan 29, 2020 13:42:27 GMT
Pictures of 1340 (including the interior) which has been refurbished by ADL Harlow.
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Post by richard on Feb 14, 2020 0:11:00 GMT
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Post by E279 on Feb 19, 2020 20:07:49 GMT
DAS1/2 seem to have moved to Ash Grove a while back and not returned to Walthamstow. Maybe CT+ has retained the 385 as a MMC seems to have gone the other way.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2020 20:33:25 GMT
DAS1/2 seem to have moved to Ash Grove a while back and not returned to Walthamstow. Maybe CT+ has retained the 385 as a MMC seems to have gone the other way. I wouldn't read too much into that - both garages swap buses so often its hard to keep track much like RR and SI at GAL. If they had spare MMCs I doubt they would have had to source the ex First / Metroline buses for the W11/W19.
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Post by E279 on Feb 19, 2020 20:35:20 GMT
DAS1/2 seem to have moved to Ash Grove a while back and not returned to Walthamstow. Maybe CT+ has retained the 385 as a MMC seems to have gone the other way. I wouldn't read too much into that - both garages swap buses so often its hard to keep track much like RR and SI at GAL. If they had spare MMCs I doubt they would have had to source the ex First / Metroline buses for the W11/W19. I mean it does seem to be a trade the 2 57 reg DAS for the 1 16-reg 8.9m E200 not MMC, apologies. But the 57 reg have been at HK for the past 2 months almost
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Post by COBO on Feb 19, 2020 20:59:14 GMT
I wouldn't read too much into that - both garages swap buses so often its hard to keep track much like RR and SI at GAL. If they had spare MMCs I doubt they would have had to source the ex First / Metroline buses for the W11/W19. I mean it does seem to be a trade the 2 57 reg DAS for the 1 16-reg 8.9m E200 not MMC, apologies. But the 57 reg have been at HK for the past 2 months almost How do you that's not permanent?
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Post by COBO on Feb 19, 2020 21:00:27 GMT
Is 1243 a HK bus allocated to the 309 or a WA bus for the W16?
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Post by E279 on Feb 19, 2020 21:43:45 GMT
Is 1243 a HK bus allocated to the 309 or a WA bus for the W16? AW for the W16. Also DAS1/2 are definitely at HK as I’ve seen them both in the garage. And they’ve been there for a while now. Unfortunately the Fandom Wiki page now for CTP keeps being updated incorrectly by someone as they keep suggesting the DAS1/2 are at AW and allocated to the 385 when by observation on LVF and I. Real life this cannot be the case. Since both DAS1&2 are at HK and only are on the W5 and have been for the past few months. The 385 has been using the 1 16 reg 8.9m E200 or a OS from the W12.
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Post by COBO on Feb 19, 2020 21:51:24 GMT
Is 1243 a HK bus allocated to the 309 or a WA bus for the W16? AW for the W16. Also DAS1/2 are definitely at HK as I’ve seen them both in the garage. And they’ve been there for a while now. Unfortunately the Fandom Wiki page now for CTP keeps being updated incorrectly by someone as they keep suggesting the DAS1/2 are at AW and allocated to the 385 when by observation on LVF and I. Real life this cannot be the case. Since both DAS1&2 are at HK. But because you’ve seen it in HK for 2 months doesn’t meander it’s mean allocated to that garage. Oh god I want some official information or someone who works at CT Plus than speculation.
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