ibus curtailments problems

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1. Why is it at the moment that when drivers get turns, that drivers don't put it on the Ibus & just turn it off?

[beaver14uk]

Either being lazy or in some cases (hopefully not many now) the operators are turning buses at unauthorised locations that TfL has not agreed to hence the drivers cannot find the curtailments on ibus.

Apr 16, 2010 13:54:49 GMT @robert1 said:

1. Why is it at the moment that when drivers get turns, that drivers don't put it on the Ibus & just turn it off?

[greeny253]

Apr 16, 2010 14:43:56 GMT beaver14uk said:

Either being lazy or in some cases (hopefully not many now) the operators are turning buses at unauthorised locations that TfL has not agreed to hence the drivers cannot find the curtailments on ibus.

Apr 16, 2010 13:54:49 GMT @robert1 said:

1. Why is it at the moment that when drivers get turns, that drivers don't put it on the Ibus & just turn it off?

Helps if the operator even gets the agreed turning points on there I find. Barkingside is an agreed turning point on the 150 yet since the Ilford routes downloaded a diversion to avoid Gants Hill (which was promptly dumped) the Barkingside turn has become a "Back" curtailment (which is absolutely no use from Chigwell Row and needs to be an "Out" curtailment from Becontree Heath) and Gants Hill has become only a "Back" curtailment (resulting in iBus being off for rare journeys to Gants Hill from Becontree Heath).

[Madstuntman]

Apr 16, 2010 14:43:56 GMT beaver14uk said:

Either being lazy or in some cases (hopefully not many now) the operators are turning buses at unauthorised locations that TfL has not agreed to hence the drivers cannot find the curtailments on ibus.

Like Avery Hill on the 286!!

[jay38a]

I suspect The Chinese Garage turn on Route 162 isnt an offical turn cause it doesnt even have a blind and is not in i-bus curtailments, however last year there were a few obs of buses turning there. Madstuntman is the Avery Hill Road/Halfway Street turn an offical turning point for the B13 and 162?

[eggmiester]

Apr 19, 2010 12:27:36 GMT jay38a said:

I suspect The Chinese Garage turn on Route 162 isnt an offical turn cause it doesnt even have a blind and is not in i-bus curtailments, however last year there were a few obs of buses turning there. Madstuntman is the Avery Hill Road/Halfway Street turn an offical turning point for the B13 and 162?

I thought there was a blind for the Chinese Garage Turn? i know TB had 'PARK LANGLEY (Chinese Garage)' on thier sets when they had the 162.

[Madstuntman]

Apr 19, 2010 13:55:19 GMT eggmiester said:

Apr 19, 2010 12:27:36 GMT jay38a said:

I suspect The Chinese Garage turn on Route 162 isnt an offical turn cause it doesnt even have a blind and is not in i-bus curtailments, however last year there were a few obs of buses turning there. Madstuntman is the Avery Hill Road/Halfway Street turn an offical turning point for the B13 and 162?

I thought there was a blind for the Chinese Garage Turn? i know TB had 'PARK LANGLEY (Chinese Garage)' on thier sets when they had the 162.

Correct my eggy friend PARK LANGLEY is Chinese Garage (although our blinds just say PARK LANGLEY) and it is official turn and it is present on the MDT as a turn.

Apr 19, 2010 12:27:36 GMT jay38a said:

I suspect The Chinese Garage turn on Route 162 isnt an offical turn cause it doesnt even have a blind and is not in i-bus curtailments, however last year there were a few obs of buses turning there. Madstuntman is the Avery Hill Road/Halfway Street turn an offical turning point for the B13 and 162?

The B13 acutally has no official turns at all!!! and only has the one fare stage on the

162 is the only route that has an offical turn at Avery Hill/Halfwit Street (hence my comment about the 286)

[jay38a]

hmm thats weird cause the driver i had said that the 162 darts didnt have a blind for Park Langley and nor was there a i-bus curtailment, I bet he was looking for The Chinese Garage and couldnt find it.

[Madstuntman]

Apr 19, 2010 18:21:29 GMT jay38a said:

hmm thats weird cause the driver i had said that the 162 darts didnt have a blind for Park Langley and nor was there a i-bus curtailment, I bet he was looking for The Chinese Garage and couldnt find it.

I promise you it's there... I've done that turn in a Dart on a 162.

[eggmiester]

I've seen a B13 leave Bexleyheath with a turn to Avery Hill Halfway Street before, obviously not an official turn. Its a bit like when LC had the B12 between Erith and Bexleyheath, they only had two fare stages, Bexleyheath Shopping Cent and Erith Town Cent.

But even when the route was that short we still got turned on B12's, i remember once, thanks to a set of temporary lights at the Long Lane, Pickford Lane Roundabout, getting a Bexleyheath Station turn! We did then have blinds for that turn! Another common one was Erith Hospital, (the one on the park crescent/hind crescent junction) but there was no blind so they showed a blank panel for that. Sometimes if you were that late you'd get a run light to the other end, losing a whole trip! Of course these were in the days before Ibus!!

[lc1]

Apr 16, 2010 14:43:56 GMT beaver14uk said:

Either being lazy or in some cases (hopefully not many now) the operators are turning buses at unauthorised locations that TfL has not agreed to hence the drivers cannot find the curtailments on ibus.

Apr 16, 2010 13:54:49 GMT @robert1 said:

1. Why is it at the moment that when drivers get turns, that drivers don't put it on the Ibus & just turn it off?

Or it could be that it is the Buse's last scheduled trip and therefore no curtailments are able to be selected although I agree with Beaver it could be lazy drivers or operators (we still get told to show New Cross and run on to Elephant & Castle on the N89 :

[iranair747]

The funny thing is even if the curtailment goes on the ibus, some passengers are too stupid. For eg. I was on the 427 to acton, then it was curtailed to ealing after west ealing. Passengers acted normal and when they were shunned off, they were complaining and all