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Post by planesandtrains on Mar 24, 2019 0:43:30 GMT
Does anyone know why double deckers have stopped on the 371 last one was the 13th. Route gets very busy so double deckers are needed. There is currently a diversion down back streets in the Norbiton area which might be causing problems with the deckers.
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Post by Volvo on Mar 24, 2019 8:33:57 GMT
Finally driven a E400H MMC in service and have to such really lovely vehicle to drive and operate in service. Very well thought out price of kit. These, SP38 I drove yeaterday, the ADEs and DLEs are my current favourite things to drive. B5LH are definitely second best to the E400H MMC except for top speed. The quickest of HVs would probably best them, although I’ve realised the newer HVs seem to be better built than the later ones, almost a year later and ADL buses would have been squeaking and rattling but not the 468 HVs I did mention before that you do have some HVs that are quicker than the E400H MMC and that was before I ever drove a E400H MMC, simply because I was easily sticking to E400H MMCs where the driver's were putting their foot down. However the MMC constant pull to 30 is more consistent than a B5lh some b5lh even fast ones still tend to lag sometimes when moving off before they pick up and go and also the MMC rides much better. It's this inconsistency that use to annoy me so much and the fact of changing gears. There is no doubt HVs like 221, 224, 261, 263, 267, 268, 376 to name a few would leave any E400H MMC for dead from start to finish. However the overall smoothness and consistent acceleration of the MMC I prefer. Even when the engine kicks in there's no delay like you get on the b5lh.
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Post by thebusguy on Mar 24, 2019 10:38:26 GMT
Does anyone know why double deckers have stopped on the 371 last one was the 13th. Route gets very busy so double deckers are needed. There is currently a diversion down back streets in the Norbiton area which might be causing problems with the deckers. Yep, Park Road is closed so DEs are diverted from the London Road Roundabout, up Kingston Hill, left Brunswick Road, left Brunswick Road and left Brunswick Road, and right into the line of route. DLEs are a different story. It is diverted from the London Road roundabout, up Kingston Hill, left QUEENS ROAD and left Kings Road, and 3rd exit onto Park Road onto Line of Route. DDs can’t get onto the Kingston section as they are too long for the DE route and too tall for the DLE route.
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Post by Frenzie on Mar 24, 2019 10:49:14 GMT
Does anyone know why double deckers have stopped on the 371 last one was the 13th. Route gets very busy so double deckers are needed. There is currently a diversion down back streets in the Norbiton area which might be causing problems with the deckers. The 65 did it when it was on diversion yesterday.
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Post by ak121 on Mar 25, 2019 20:12:11 GMT
Yea they are definitely ugly, I must say the red headlight surrounds look absolutely terrible on the Gemini 3. Personally, I don't think the RATP VHs don't look that bad, but other operators' standard designs with the black headlight surrounds are better. The RATP E200 and E400 MMCs look absolutely horrid though with their over the top redness. What I think looks really good on Mark 2 Gemini 3s in London is that the early versions' blinds used to be placed quite far behind the glass window and shadows would make the blinds quite hard to see in the daylight and different angles, but ever since Metroline's LK67 batch on the 222, the blinds have been brought forward, up to the glass, and that makes the bus look much more better, friendly and the blinds are more legible.
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Post by redbus on Mar 25, 2019 20:20:27 GMT
Finally driven a E400H MMC in service and have to such really lovely vehicle to drive and operate in service. Very well thought out price of kit. These, SP38 I drove yeaterday, the ADEs and DLEs are my current favourite things to drive. B5LH are definitely second best overall to the E400H MMC except for 30mph+ speed. I am glad you enjoyed driving it. I think ADL need to look at the medium to high speed continuous running of these hybrids from what I read here. It's perfectly possible to run a vehicle using only an electric motor for traction at medium to high speed for long continuous periods - witness electric cars - so not quite sure what the problem is here.
Given this I think the MMC is probably more suited to 'in town' routes, so it is probably better on routes such as the 139. If you do get to drive on the 139, perhaps they might even give you a MMC to drive, they do seem to make semi-regular appearances on the route, and you never know you might even see the charms of the route!
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Mar 25, 2019 20:30:46 GMT
RATP could snap up some of Stagecoach 13001-32 for route 266.
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Post by LT 20181 on Mar 25, 2019 21:25:27 GMT
RATP could snap up some of Stagecoach 13001-32 for route 266. That could work.
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Post by First Hayes on Mar 25, 2019 22:24:52 GMT
RATP could snap up some of Stagecoach 13001-32 for route 266. iPray The E3 SP’s Are Put To Good Use
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 23:01:05 GMT
RATP could snap up some of Stagecoach 13001-32 for route 266. iPray The E3 SP’s Are Put To Good Use I did think that but the cost of upgrading them would probably be a bit pricey.
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Post by Volvo on Mar 25, 2019 23:17:12 GMT
Finally driven a E400H MMC in service and have to such really lovely vehicle to drive and operate in service. Very well thought out price of kit. These, SP38 I drove yeaterday, the ADEs and DLEs are my current favourite things to drive. B5LH are definitely second best overall to the E400H MMC except for 30mph+ speed. I am glad you enjoyed driving it. I think ADL need to look at the medium to high speed continuous running of these hybrids from what I read here. It's perfectly possible to run a vehicle using only an electric motor for traction at medium to high speed for long continuous periods - witness electric cars - so not quite sure what the problem is here.
Given this I think the MMC is probably more suited to 'in town' routes, so it is probably better on routes such as the 139. If you do get to drive on the 139, perhaps they might even give you a MMC to drive, they do seem to make semi-regular appearances on the route, and you never know you might even see the charms of the route!
I was driving it on the 139 lol, ADH45286. On the light run back to garage though it ran out of steam quick was not impressed but 0-35 very impressed. Infact when I type trained on the 67reg example I found it quicker and it didn't run out of steam before 40. The ultracap though definitely starts running out of puff after 35.
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Post by SILENCED on Mar 26, 2019 0:27:02 GMT
iPray The E3 SP’s Are Put To Good Use I did think that but the cost of upgrading them would probably be a bit pricey. Is that not TfLs cost?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2019 1:03:56 GMT
I did think that but the cost of upgrading them would probably be a bit pricey. Is that not TfLs cost? Forgot about that.
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Post by snowman on Mar 26, 2019 3:07:12 GMT
I did think that but the cost of upgrading them would probably be a bit pricey. Is that not TfLs cost? No, TfL only upgrade buses where contracts continue beyond start date of ULEZ For new contracts it is Operators problem (but ultimately the cost is factored into the contract price, so TfL pays over time), the difference is that TfL do not have Capital expenditure, but cost is buried in Operating cost through to 2024 Probably why TfL originally estimated upgrading about 4900 buses, but recently seem to be referring to about 3800 upgrades
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Post by busdryver on Mar 26, 2019 7:27:11 GMT
RATP could snap up some of Stagecoach 13001-32 for route 266. iPray The E3 SP’s Are Put To Good Use The ones that have now left the fleet??
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