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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2012 3:15:51 GMT
I gather from elsewhere that Go Ahead has acquired another independent operator in the form of Suffolk based Chambers.
First Eastern Counties must be getting concerned now!!
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2012 7:16:59 GMT
Yes, i've also heard they will move into Hedingham's Sudbury depot, but the Chambers name will stay.
Apparently the company is 135 years old, so its a shame to see another independent go, however Go-Ahead are probably the best 'big' company to take it over.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2012 7:31:19 GMT
It seems that they will not rest until they operate every bus company in the UK and run every bus service, although they can only run 25% of buses in London although by this time they would have already purchased TfL and changed this rule ;D.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2012 18:14:40 GMT
Go-Ahead are a bit like an Essex girl in a shoe shop right now ;d
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Post by twobellstogo on May 31, 2012 21:13:19 GMT
It seems that they will not rest until they operate every bus company in the UK and run every bus service, although they can only run 25% of buses in London although by this time they would have already purchased TfL and changed this rule ;D. Seems a bit unfair : Stagecoach, Arriva and First are all still bigger than Go-Ahead! The thing I've always liked about Go-Ahead is their policy of keeping individual images : and many of these are excellent - Brighton & Hove being for me a shining example of this
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Post by ServerKing on May 31, 2012 21:21:44 GMT
NP are getting their logo's at last, but still no 'We're Part Of The Go-Ahead Group' vinyls or the ubiquitous 'BUS DRIVER VACANCIES' one on the rear window yet Seems that Go-Ahead are on a massive spending spree
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Post by mre81 on May 31, 2012 21:27:19 GMT
Go-Ahead's growth strategy is interesting. It seems to be making itself into a very much more profitable business, and more attractive to potential buyers. I can see it being bought out itself in a few years. Probably by another European government-owned monopoly.....
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Post by vjaska on May 31, 2012 23:17:32 GMT
It seems that they will not rest until they operate every bus company in the UK and run every bus service, although they can only run 25% of buses in London although by this time they would have already purchased TfL and changed this rule ;D. Seems a bit unfair : Stagecoach, Arriva and First are all still bigger than Go-Ahead! The thing I've always liked about Go-Ahead is their policy of keeping individual images : and many of these are excellent - Brighton & Hove being for me a shining example of this I can see it overtaking First in a few years as they seem to be contracting and selling bits off at an alarming rate. First also has a terrible image outside London which doesn't particularly help.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2012 0:37:15 GMT
Is it me or does Go-Ahead remind you of Machester City. Buying up every God d*mn thing. ;D
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Post by londonbusboy on Jun 1, 2012 1:34:27 GMT
The only thing i find unfair is the fact Go Ahead can have a larger share in London as they have their independant 'Metrobus'
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2012 1:54:25 GMT
The only thing i find unfair is the fact Go Ahead can have a larger share in London as they have their independant 'Metrobus' They can't. The people telling you otherwise are spouting b'locks. It 25% per operating group.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2012 2:14:39 GMT
Well the Go Ahead group likes to buy up companies to make their own company bigger. What's next for them, buy up Metroline and Abello? But i am sure they own Metrobus but they haven't put their logos on their fleet at least. Go Ahead buying up bus companies.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 1, 2012 4:32:50 GMT
Well the Go Ahead group likes to buy up companies to make their own company bigger. What's next for them, buy up Metroline and Abello? But i am sure they own Metrobus but they haven't put their logos on their fleet at least. Go Ahead buying up bus companies. They wouldn't be able to buy Metroline or Abellio as it would take them over the 25% share of routes they have in London. Metrobus has it's own management which is why you see Metrobus logos and not Go-Ahead London ones.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2012 8:53:21 GMT
Well the Go Ahead group likes to buy up companies to make their own company bigger. What's next for them, buy up Metroline and Abello? But i am sure they own Metrobus but they haven't put their logos on their fleet at least. Go Ahead buying up bus companies. Give the size of the respective parent companies, it is more likely Go-Ahead would be taken over by them. In fact fattening up the bird before a sale is not an uncommon tactic .... time will tell.
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 1, 2012 12:50:48 GMT
The only thing i find unfair is the fact Go Ahead can have a larger share in London as they have their independant 'Metrobus' They can't. The people telling you otherwise are spouting b'locks. It 25% per operating group. Source: www.tangytango.proboards.com/inde....d=2751&page=137Right, lets go through a few pointers here... First have decided to offer some of thier assest for sale, or the warrent the term, 'looking for expressions of interest', i did read a report about it somewhere, when i find it i'll post the link. First have decided to reduce the burden on thier debt by sellling off parts of the business that arent making a profit or meeting thier expected profit margins and targets, i beleive the 'First Capital North' arm of First London is one of the said assets that has not done so, therefore the decision was taken by first to look for Expressions of interest, for the potential sale of the operation. It appears appearent the the whole business, would not look attractive to potential buyers, therefore they have decided to sell individual sites off seperately (therefore selling at a reasonable and attratcive price) as this would be more attractive to potential buyers. The 25% share i beleive is Opertator specific, not group specific. People forget that the big groups - Arriva, Go-ahead, First, Stagecoach, as well as the smaller groups like RATP and Transdev, are only a financial stabili for thier owned business'. In the case of Arriva, Stagecoach and First, they use a Corporate Brand to help 'sell' thier business', Go-ahead are slightly different and use a 'Devloved Structure', whereby each operation has an individual identity, but the way the organisation operates is Theoretically the same as Arriva, First and Stagecoach. So when you look at things, the operatrions are split, so you have: ARRIVA - London North ARRIVA - London South ARRIVA - Southern Counties (Kent Thameside) ARRIVA - the Shires All of the above have seperate head offices, therefore are seperate operations. All are Corporately Branded Business'. GO-AHEAD - Metrobus GO-AHEAD - Go-ahead London (Combining: London Central, London General, Docklands Buses and Blue Triangle on seperate o-licences) - One head office. Both of the above have different head offices so are therefore seperate operations. All are Individually Branded Business'. STAGECOACH - Stagecoach London (combining, East London, Thameside on seperate o-licences) - One Head Office. Corporately Branded Business'. Seperate operation to any other stagecoach activity in London. (NX coaches, Megabus etc..) FIRST - First Capital East/First Capital North (combined operation, seperate o-licences) FIRST - First Centrewest London Shared Head Office (for all of the above). Corporately Branded Business'. Seperate operation to any other First activity in London. (NX coaches, Greenline etc..) Note: First Beeline Bracknell and First Beeline Slough used to be based out fo the same head office, but are now seperately managed. The rest are pretty much the same. Back on topic, the sale has not formally been agreed yet, but it is pretty much a 'done deal' so i have been told. I personally think this should be posted in an official notice under the tender section. This information provided by egg... is very useful
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