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Post by RM5chris on Aug 2, 2012 13:40:04 GMT
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Post by lonmark on Aug 2, 2012 15:08:29 GMT
I don't think it is good idea coz A- Black taxis will block it. B - Delivery lorry may park but too closer to Line. C - People need to watch out by the tram when cross the road! D - is this tram running night bus as well?
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Post by twobellstogo on Aug 2, 2012 15:35:46 GMT
I don't think it is good idea coz A- Black taxis will block it. B - Delivery lorry may park but too closer to Line. C - People need to watch out by the tram when cross the road! D - is this tram running night bus as well? I'll have a think as to whether this is a good plan or not, but even so, I'm not sure argument C holds water here : surely you need to look out for all traffic, not just trams! |
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Post by VPL630 on Aug 2, 2012 15:45:12 GMT
I don't think it is good idea coz A- Black taxis will block it. B - Delivery lorry may park but too closer to Line. C - People need to watch out by the tram when cross the road! D - is this tram running night bus as well? I'll have a think as to whether this is a good plan or not, but even so, I'm not sure argument C holds water here : surely you need to look out for all traffic, not just trams! Since when do people in Oxford Street look out for traffic  |
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Post by M1104 on Aug 2, 2012 16:30:22 GMT
I'll have a think as to whether this is a good plan or not, but even so, I'm not sure argument C holds water here : surely you need to look out for all traffic, not just trams! Since when do people in Oxford Street look out for traffic or around trams within Croydon Town Centre for that matter. |
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Post by RM5chris on Aug 2, 2012 17:57:56 GMT
Trams seem to work well in alot of other cities here and abroad - my own particular favorite are those of the German City of Bonn....
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Post by vjaska on Aug 3, 2012 0:13:01 GMT
I don't think it is good idea coz A- Black taxis will block it. B - Delivery lorry may park but too closer to Line. C - People need to watch out by the tram when cross the road! D - is this tram running night bus as well? Arguement C is pointless as it works in Croydon which isn't exactly a ghost town, so why couldn't it work on Oxford Street. I'm presuming that no traffic at all would run along Oxford Street if the tram idea was sanctioned which would rule out arguement A & B. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2012 0:47:03 GMT
A Tram in my opinion is like a bendy bus on rails. But having an idea of Trams in Central London is like bringing back the past where they had the Double Decker trams and Trolley buses, Hop on and hop off indeed as well.  |
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Post by joefrombow on Aug 3, 2012 12:49:19 GMT
If they were to that they may aswell bring back bendy buses and make a fast track/transit style route . Yeah they block up junctions, crimes high on them etc but would be nowere near the cost of building a tram line . Sure there's a few of them knocking about a quick refurb and bobs your uncle .
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Post by snoggle on Aug 3, 2012 13:00:29 GMT
Good grief not again. You cannot just run an Oxford Street tram as there is nowhere for a depot. I personally advocate a progressive conversion of all busy, high frequency bus services to tram operation which would cover a large part of the West End. However you would need a contractual commitment from all West End businesses that they would endure the disruption during the construction period. That disruption would be very considerable - look at how long it took to shift some utilities at Bond St for Crossrail / LU ticket hall works. Given the shop owners cannot stop whingeing like mad about there being buses in Oxford Street I don't see that they could endure tram construction works that could take several years to undertake. What the shop owners want is to pedestrianise Oxford Street entirely and bus users can go to hell. The article has a false premise in it - they say Crossrail will lead to a reduction in Central London radial bus services - who says it will? We have three separate rail services between Stratford and Central London - rail, tube and DLR - and none of that has done anything to reduce usage on the 25. TfL had to add the 205 to provide relief to the 25 as it couldn't cope. I don't believe Crossrail will make much difference at all to bus travel as they're different markets. All it will do, like Thameslink, is provide a big but short term increase in capacity that will be used up within 7 years or so. There will never be an Oxford Street tram just serving Oxford Street - too expensive, too disruptive and illogical on its own. As part of something far bigger it might well make sense because it would form part of an existing route or transport corridor with established patronage and depot facilities could be in the suburbs. You do have to wonder how supposedly clever people have to create these reports when the position is clear if you have a bit of knowledge about transport. |
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