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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2013 20:22:38 GMT
All of First's new Enviro 300's are likely to be boring 6 spd ZF examples  Whereas the Streetlite only comes with a Voith box ;D Oh shut up.  I find the Voith whine really irritating, whereas the ZF sound is much more sublime and musical.  I much prefer the Voith whine, I find the ZF a bit boring. Each to their own. |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 18, 2013 3:16:22 GMT
All of First's new Enviro 300's are likely to be boring 6 spd ZF examples Whereas the Streetlite only comes with a Voith box ;D Oh shut up. I find the Voith whine really irritating, whereas the ZF sound is much more sublime and musical. ;D Depends on the bus really, some B7TL's, all MAN's & all B9TL's seem very dull with it but then Scania's, Tridents, Volvo Olympians & Volvo B10M's sound nice with it. On the other hand, I've yet to find a bus where I hate Voith on it |
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 19, 2013 16:40:26 GMT
Oh shut up. I find the Voith whine really irritating, whereas the ZF sound is much more sublime and musical. ;D Depends on the bus really, some B7TL's, all MAN's & all B9TL's seem very dull with it but then Scania's, Tridents, Volvo Olympians & Volvo B10M's sound nice with it. On the other hand, I've yet to find a bus where I hate Voith on it You never went on the old SPD's on the 227? ;D First's examples on the 25 sound too dull, yet to try the Voith B9TL's on the 52 / 134  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2013 21:34:17 GMT
Oh shut up. I find the Voith whine really irritating, whereas the ZF sound is much more sublime and musical. ;D Depends on the bus really, some B7TL's, all MAN's & all B9TL's seem very dull with it but then Scania's, Tridents, Volvo Olympians & Volvo B10M's sound nice with it. On the other hand, I've yet to find a bus where I hate Voith on it ZF sounds good on MANs I find. The Voith whine is really irritation when the bus is idling, it sounds more like a continuous whimper. |
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Post by vjaska on Feb 19, 2013 23:28:19 GMT
;D Depends on the bus really, some B7TL's, all MAN's & all B9TL's seem very dull with it but then Scania's, Tridents, Volvo Olympians & Volvo B10M's sound nice with it. On the other hand, I've yet to find a bus where I hate Voith on it You never went on the old SPD's on the 227? ;D First's examples on the 25 sound too dull, yet to try the Voith B9TL's on the 52 / 134 At one stage, the 227 was my second home - lovely route with lovely buses. The new Citaros though are gods when revved. |
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Post by Volvo on Feb 21, 2013 0:33:43 GMT
Voith buses are generally dreary and boring to listen to especially when its a B9TL (bar the euro 4 VEs at putney garage). Also when a voith bus is underpowered it is painful listening to the bus screaming in first gear a example of this is the darn awful 55reg metroline DLDs quite frankly the worst single deckers in london right now imo.
B7TLs imo sound better on voith generally, B9TL, Euro 4/5 Trident total opposite they sound better on ZF.
MAN sound good on either, 4 cylinder cummins engined single decks like E200s/streetlites sound awful on voith imo (vjaska I know you disagree already with most of what I am saying here as your a voith lover)
Metrolines 12reg Voith B9TLs are foul! seriously boring, no character (makes the ZF versions sound good) the 62reg voith sound some what better but are still horrid.
In general apart from MANs, B7RLEs, SB200s which are on voith and euro 4 scanias. I prefer hybrid buses well only B5LHs, E400Hs especially the older (58reg) E400 hybrids and DB300 hybrids and E200 Hybrids.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2013 1:07:21 GMT
Voith sounds better in Tridents and B7TLs if you ask me, the PVLs at A for the 213 are nice and fast, but sound dull compared to my favourite PVLs (the ones now on the 270 and 280). The Voith Tridents on the 122 also sound good though they have very little power. The Voith Enviro200 on the 314 also sound nice, though the Voith Darts on the 214 sounded pretty awful. To be honest with the B9TL they're pretty dull whatever gearbox they have. I do prefer the sound of ZF-boxed earlier Enviro400 though the recent Voith-boxed Enviro400 sound nice.
Funnily enough I don't think hybrids sound that bad. I like the electric whirr they have, which is especially noticeable on the B5Ls. Any bus which can get speed through Central London is fine by me.
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Post by vjaska on Feb 21, 2013 4:16:25 GMT
I like anything on Voith, love the screaming and wailing they make even in low gears - it gives them so much character. I like some ZF buses such as Tridents (my favourite Tridents are on ZF), Enviro 400's, Volvo B10M's, certain B7TL batches, Scania's, Euro I DB250's but there are some I find boring such as MAN's, B9TL's, Cummins Olympians.
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 24, 2013 18:01:23 GMT
Voith buses are generally dreary and boring to listen to especially when its a B9TL (bar the euro 4 VEs at putney garage). Also when a voith bus is underpowered it is painful listening to the bus screaming in first gear a example of this is the darn awful 55reg metroline DLDs quite frankly the worst single deckers in london right now imo. B7TLs imo sound better on voith generally, B9TL, Euro 4/5 Trident total opposite they sound better on ZF. MAN sound good on either, 4 cylinder cummins engined single decks like E200s/streetlites sound awful on voith imo (vjaska I know you disagree already with most of what I am saying here as your a voith lover) Metrolines 12reg Voith B9TLs are foul! seriously boring, no character (makes the ZF versions sound good) the 62reg voith sound some what better but are still horrid. In general apart from MANs, B7RLEs, SB200s which are on voith and euro 4 scanias. I prefer hybrid buses well only B5LHs, E400Hs especially the older (58reg) E400 hybrids and DB300 hybrids and E200 Hybrids. I loved the Voith MMs that were on the 232, but the 4-cyl Darts do sound they are struggling... Stagecoach have gotten Optare to make Voith versions of the Versa Sent from my GT-I9100 using proboards |
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