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Post by snoggle on Aug 31, 2014 17:58:24 GMT
Bit of a cop out with those 69 deckers. Still can't see it running the whole trip on battery mode apart from at night let alone in the peaks and at weekends. Why do you think the buses won't be able to run on battery mode?
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Post by VPL630 on Aug 31, 2014 19:23:24 GMT
Bit of a cop out with those 69 deckers. Still can't see it running the whole trip on battery mode apart from at night let alone in the peaks and at weekends. Why do you think the buses won't be able to run on battery mode? If the BYD's can do a whole duty these E400E's will be able to at least a trip
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Post by zebedee104 on Sept 1, 2014 11:37:21 GMT
Bit of a cop out with those 69 deckers. Still can't see it running the whole trip on battery mode apart from at night let alone in the peaks and at weekends. I'd rather have a 'cop out' as you put rather than a bus that breaks down with flat batteries because it hasn't been able to charge itself. The 69 gets turns just like every route. What if it's short-turned and can't get to Walthamstow or Canning Town for whatever reason to recharge?
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Post by smoothcriminal on Sept 1, 2014 11:45:30 GMT
Bit of a cop out with those 69 deckers. Still can't see it running the whole trip on battery mode apart from at night let alone in the peaks and at weekends. Why do you think the buses won't be able to run on battery mode? Only experience I've had of an e400h extended run is back from London on a night bus and can't say I've ever experienced it an hour on battery only mode and what's it getting either end 10/15 minutes charging time I read somewhere and I also take it that's recovery time aswell so if the bus is late I imagine that's less charging.
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Post by mondraker275 on Sept 2, 2014 7:40:42 GMT
Why do you think the buses won't be able to run on battery mode? Only experience I've had of an e400h extended run is back from London on a night bus and can't say I've ever experienced it an hour on battery only mode and what's it getting either end 10/15 minutes charging time I read somewhere and I also take it that's recovery time aswell so if the bus is late I imagine that's less charging. I think early on it will get 10/15 minutes recovery/charging time with the 4 buses on their own schedule, but I am sure as time goes on they will incorporate the buses into the normal schedule, and see if they can cope with less recovery/charging time. After all they want to test how if the technology can cope with the demands of the network.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 22:08:00 GMT
So these buses for the 69 are called E400Es? Sounds nice. Will these use regular Stagecoach fleet numbers or will they be given fleet codes by TfL and then have internal fleet codes like the NBFLs? If they use Stagecoach ones, what will they use? I'm guessing the 12000 series.
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Post by YY13VKP on Sept 17, 2014 21:12:20 GMT
When are the new Optare Metrocity EV's arriving for the 312??
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Post by snoggle on Sept 17, 2014 22:00:05 GMT
When are the new Optare Metrocity EV's arriving for the 312?? LOTS have said in the new TLB that delivery will be "later in September" so I assume in the next two weeks. However as this is Optare anything can happen.
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Post by Connor on Sept 18, 2014 5:30:15 GMT
When are the new Optare Metrocity EV's arriving for the 312?? If anyone knew that, then I'm SURE you'd know by now.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 18, 2014 13:26:15 GMT
When are the new Optare Metrocity EV's arriving for the 312?? LOTS have said in the new TLB that delivery will be "later in September" so I assume in the next two weeks. However as this is Optare anything can happen. According to LOTS, a charging point has been installed at South Croydon Bus Garage too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 20:38:18 GMT
What's the ETA of the E400E's?
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Post by snoggle on Sept 18, 2014 21:07:29 GMT
What's the ETA of the E400E's? No firm date has been quoted yet. The documents linked to in preceding posts say they'll start operating in the New Year so I'd take that to mean January so allow at least a month for testing, driver and engineer familiarisation etc. Therefore a *guess* is that the buses might turn up in December but you can't hold me to that.
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Post by snowman on Oct 30, 2014 9:36:14 GMT
I was rereading TfLs press announcement on the consultation for ultra low emission zone in September 2020 TfL linkTowards the bottom is a section (see Additional requirements for TfL buses) that says all single decks in the area will be zero emission at tailpipe, the RV1 already is (but hydrogen buses are too expensive) so must be going electric. Made me think about routes affected (probably missed some but here is a start) 42, 46, 100, 507, 521, C10, RV1Plenty of other routes that just miss the zone, eg C1, 170 to Victoria etc so the buses on 100 (not yet in service) need displacing (is that a record, obsolete before even entering service), I'm sure the MECs on 507 and 521 can find homes elsewhere in Go-Ahead empire (Metrobus 2003-2005 omnicitys and others) One other thing, the table seems to suggest any bus in the zone not Euro VI will get a £100/day penalty so what happens to the Euro V versions of new bus for London ? Anyone else got any thoughts on replacements and cascade of buses to outer routes (or routes I've missed)
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Post by snoggle on Oct 30, 2014 9:56:34 GMT
I was rereading TfLs press announcement on the consultation for ultra low emission zone in September 2020 TfL linkTowards the bottom is a section (see Additional requirements for TfL buses) that says all single decks in the area will be zero emission at tailpipe, the RV1 already is (but hydrogen buses are too expensive) so must be going electric. Made me think about routes affected (probably missed some but here is a start) 42, 46, 100, 507, 521, C10, RV1Plenty of other routes that just miss the zone, eg C1, 170 to Victoria etc so the buses on 100 (not yet in service) need displacing (is that a record, obsolete before even entering service), I'm sure the MECs on 507 and 521 can find homes elsewhere in Go-Ahead empire (Metrobus 2003-2005 omnicitys and others) One other thing, the table seems to suggest any bus in the zone not Euro VI will get a £100/day penalty so what happens to the Euro V versions of new bus for London ? Anyone else got any thoughts on replacements and cascade of buses to outer routes (or routes I've missed) The 274 seems to be just caught by using Baker Street unless TfL reroute it via Edgware Road. I note TfL have carefully excluded the NB4L and double deckers from being zero emission vehicles - presumably due to technology and cost issues. If they want a ULEZ they should simply put in trams and trolleybuses and be done with it. They could take out hundreds of vehicles by doing that and provide vastly more capacity with fewer replacement vehicles. There are going to be some interesting implications for coach services that run via Baker St / Gloucester Place. Are they are going to be paying £100 per vehicle or simply turn Edgware Road into a massive coach lane? Ditto for the commuter coaches out of Victoria that use the Embankment to reach the City and on to Kent.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 30, 2014 15:05:55 GMT
I was rereading TfLs press announcement on the consultation for ultra low emission zone in September 2020 TfL linkTowards the bottom is a section (see Additional requirements for TfL buses) that says all single decks in the area will be zero emission at tailpipe, the RV1 already is (but hydrogen buses are too expensive) so must be going electric. Made me think about routes affected (probably missed some but here is a start) 42, 46, 100, 507, 521, C10, RV1Plenty of other routes that just miss the zone, eg C1, 170 to Victoria etc so the buses on 100 (not yet in service) need displacing (is that a record, obsolete before even entering service), I'm sure the MECs on 507 and 521 can find homes elsewhere in Go-Ahead empire (Metrobus 2003-2005 omnicitys and others) One other thing, the table seems to suggest any bus in the zone not Euro VI will get a £100/day penalty so what happens to the Euro V versions of new bus for London ? Anyone else got any thoughts on replacements and cascade of buses to outer routes (or routes I've missed) The 42 has been mentioned on here recently as gaining deckers from a LT conversion so that may avoid any 0% emission single deckers.
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