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Post by snowman on May 3, 2014 5:58:04 GMT
The Ensign monthly update for April shows they have recevied HW3-5 from Arriva London! Also OTH 971/2 from Metroline. Slightly surprised that the updated Wright hybrids have gone without turning a wheel in London service (HW4 excepted). I have had to rack my brains on this, but from memory the 56 bus hybrid trial was 5 years, so clearly has ended Would be interesting to compile a full list of the early hybrids and where they now are HV1-HV5 Arriva, modified to production spec and still in use, 6-152 ordered later HW1-5 Arriva, as above, are 1-2 still at Wrights ? 29001-5 ELBG, renumbered 25111-5, with Stagecoach 39001-5 First, ? current 8801-8805 Travel London, renamed Abellio, withdrawn TEH915-919 Metroline, recently reported by LOTs as bought by Metroline, more TEHs later OTH971-975 Metroline, see above, remainder at Metroline ? ADH1-2 London United, now used as top up route 27, 3-51 ordered later HDE1-5 East Thames, but changed before delivery to London United, used on route 371 EH1-5 Go-Ahead, modified to production spec, 6-38 ordered later WLD1 Go-Ahead, still in use WHD1 Go-Ahead, withdrawn, current ? WHY7 Go-Ahead, similar to first 6, 6 more later added, 1-7 modified, one of class killed by an LT can't remember the rest, can anyone else fill in missing
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Post by snoggle on May 3, 2014 9:19:54 GMT
The Ensign monthly update for April shows they have recevied HW3-5 from Arriva London! Also OTH 971/2 from Metroline. Slightly surprised that the updated Wright hybrids have gone without turning a wheel in London service (HW4 excepted). I have had to rack my brains on this, but from memory the 56 bus hybrid trial was 5 years, so clearly has ended Would be interesting to compile a full list of the early hybrids and where they now are HV1-HV5 Arriva, modified to production spec and still in use, 6-152 ordered later HW1-5 Arriva, as above, are 1-2 still at Wrights ? 29001-5 ELBG, renumbered 25111-5, with Stagecoach 39001-5 First, ? current 8801-8805 Travel London, renamed Abellio, withdrawn TEH915-919 Metroline, recently reported by LOTs as bought by Metroline, more TEHs later OTH971-975 Metroline, see above, remainder at Metroline ? ADH1-2 London United, now used as top up route 27, 3-51 ordered later HDE1-5 East Thames, but changed before delivery to London United, used on route 371 EH1-5 Go-Ahead, modified to production spec, 6-38 ordered later WLD1 Go-Ahead, still in use WHD1 Go-Ahead, withdrawn, current ? WHY7 Go-Ahead, similar to first 6, 6 more later added, 1-7 modified, one of class killed by an LT can't remember the rest, can anyone else fill in missing Go Ahead's WLD1 isn't a hybrid though. It's a diesel Wrightbus 2DL like Arriva's later DW class vehicles. First London's WNH 39001-5 are, I think, in South Yorkshire now having been fully modified. I never realised the HDE class were originally destined for East Thames. LOTS reported that HW 1,2 and 5 returned to London to join HW4. It was HW3 whose whereabouts were unclear but seemingly it was lurking somewhere for it to have now passed to Ensignbus. I think WHD1 went back to Wrights but not 100% certain. I saw that bus a few times but never, ever when I had a camera with me.
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Post by vjaska on May 3, 2014 9:43:01 GMT
I have had to rack my brains on this, but from memory the 56 bus hybrid trial was 5 years, so clearly has ended Would be interesting to compile a full list of the early hybrids and where they now are HV1-HV5 Arriva, modified to production spec and still in use, 6-152 ordered later HW1-5 Arriva, as above, are 1-2 still at Wrights ? 29001-5 ELBG, renumbered 25111-5, with Stagecoach 39001-5 First, ? current 8801-8805 Travel London, renamed Abellio, withdrawn TEH915-919 Metroline, recently reported by LOTs as bought by Metroline, more TEHs later OTH971-975 Metroline, see above, remainder at Metroline ? ADH1-2 London United, now used as top up route 27, 3-51 ordered later HDE1-5 East Thames, but changed before delivery to London United, used on route 371 EH1-5 Go-Ahead, modified to production spec, 6-38 ordered later WLD1 Go-Ahead, still in use WHD1 Go-Ahead, withdrawn, current ? WHY7 Go-Ahead, similar to first 6, 6 more later added, 1-7 modified, one of class killed by an LT can't remember the rest, can anyone else fill in missing Go Ahead's WLD1 isn't a hybrid though. It's a diesel Wrightbus 2DL like Arriva's later DW class vehicles. First London's WNH 39001-5 are, I think, in South Yorkshire now having been fully modified. I never realised the HDE class were originally destined for East Thames. LOTS reported that HW 1,2 and 5 returned to London to join HW4. It was HW3 whose whereabouts were unclear but seemingly it was lurking somewhere for it to have now passed to Ensignbus. I think WHD1 went back to Wrights but not 100% certain. I saw that bus a few times but never, ever when I had a camera with me. Pedantic mode so apologies but it's WDL1 - your right though that's it's not a hybrid. Also, the HDE class were indeed originally destined for East Thames Buses for the 42.
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Post by vjaska on May 3, 2014 9:45:16 GMT
The Ensign monthly update for April shows they have recevied HW3-5 from Arriva London! Also OTH 971/2 from Metroline. Slightly surprised that the updated Wright hybrids have gone without turning a wheel in London service (HW4 excepted). I have had to rack my brains on this, but from memory the 56 bus hybrid trial was 5 years, so clearly has ended Would be interesting to compile a full list of the early hybrids and where they now are HV1-HV5 Arriva, modified to production spec and still in use, 6-152 ordered later HW1-5 Arriva, as above, are 1-2 still at Wrights ? 29001-5 ELBG, renumbered 25111-5, with Stagecoach 39001-5 First, ? current 8801-8805 Travel London, renamed Abellio, withdrawn TEH915-919 Metroline, recently reported by LOTs as bought by Metroline, more TEHs later OTH971-975 Metroline, see above, remainder at Metroline ? ADH1-2 London United, now used as top up route 27, 3-51 ordered later HDE1-5 East Thames, but changed before delivery to London United, used on route 371 EH1-5 Go-Ahead, modified to production spec, 6-38 ordered later WLD1 Go-Ahead, still in use WHD1 Go-Ahead, withdrawn, current ? WHY7 Go-Ahead, similar to first 6, 6 more later added, 1-7 modified, one of class killed by an LT can't remember the rest, can anyone else fill in missing 8801-8805 are now all scrapped The OTH's have started going to Ensign for resale, not sure whether all have gone
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Post by M1104 on May 3, 2014 10:19:54 GMT
I have had to rack my brains on this, but from memory the 56 bus hybrid trial was 5 years, so clearly has ended Would be interesting to compile a full list of the early hybrids and where they now are HV1-HV5 Arriva, modified to production spec and still in use, 6-152 ordered later HW1-5 Arriva, as above, are 1-2 still at Wrights ? 29001-5 ELBG, renumbered 25111-5, with Stagecoach 39001-5 First, ? current 8801-8805 Travel London, renamed Abellio, withdrawn TEH915-919 Metroline, recently reported by LOTs as bought by Metroline, more TEHs later OTH971-975 Metroline, see above, remainder at Metroline ? ADH1-2 London United, now used as top up route 27, 3-51 ordered later HDE1-5 East Thames, but changed before delivery to London United, used on route 371 EH1-5 Go-Ahead, modified to production spec, 6-38 ordered later WLD1 Go-Ahead, still in use WHD1 Go-Ahead, withdrawn, current ? WHY7 Go-Ahead, similar to first 6, 6 more later added, 1-7 modified, one of class killed by an LT can't remember the rest, can anyone else fill in missing 8801-8805 are now all scrapped It's a pity they couldn't have been converted to conventional diesels, or where they that far gone... or to expensive to convert?
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Post by towerman on May 16, 2014 13:08:24 GMT
Y251NLK I believe an ex Stagecoach Dart seen in Milton Keynes now working for Redline in all over green.
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Post by Hassaan on May 24, 2014 19:01:55 GMT
Y251NLK I believe an ex Stagecoach Dart seen in Milton Keynes now working for Redline in all over green. Y-NLK should be Metroline
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Post by Hassaan on Jun 13, 2014 0:39:20 GMT
Imperial Coaches of Southall have at least one ex-Metroline TAL, it has been painted in their black/white livery and probably fitted with seatbelts (in order to replace Olympians). That and another very similar looking bus (likely another one of the same) were parked in their yard in Southall on Western Road, one of them I just about managed to see the ending of the reg plate which was HLL, the same as the TALs. The other one is parked where you can only see part of the upper deck.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2014 21:03:06 GMT
All the OTHs have departed Metroline.
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Post by smiler52 on Jun 26, 2014 0:51:16 GMT
Xelabus of eastleigh have a very large fleet made up of ex metroline buses
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2014 10:15:50 GMT
Can anyone work out where ex-Metroline MCW Metrobus M309 is(I know where it is)?
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Post by snowman on Jul 3, 2014 6:37:11 GMT
Been advised that Arriva have no idea what to do with most of the DLAs now leaving London. Apparently the Provincial operations dont want them and some areas like Merseyside are even scrapping some they received few years ago.
They will initially be stored at Borehamwood, Blackburn, Derby etc. But may go for scrap.
Delved a bit and seems premium routes get Sapphire (luxury spec), then there is Max (trialled in Yorkshire but without some features like laptop points), then normal spec. The buses being displaced by these are better than the ex London ones (and dont need converting from TfL spec). Another factor is Arriva are changing to long single decks like streetlite max for medium sized towns. Of course double decks aren't needed for rural areas.
Any DLA fans can start crying now as scrap seems inevitable. Arriva London isn't going to pay about 10k per bus to convert and refurb them and the provinces have there own displaced buses (nil conversion costs) so its a no brainer.
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Post by snoggle on Jul 3, 2014 9:30:53 GMT
Been advised that Arriva have no idea what to do with most of the DLAs now leaving London. Apparently the Provincial operations dont want them and some areas like Merseyside are even scrapping some they received few years ago. They will initially be stored at Borehamwood, Blackburn, Derby etc. But may go for scrap. Delved a bit and seems premium routes get Sapphire (luxury spec), then there is Max (trialled in Yorkshire but without some features like laptop points), then normal spec. The buses being displaced by these are better than the ex London ones (and dont need converting from TfL spec). Another factor is Arriva are changing to long single decks like streetlite max for medium sized towns. Of course double decks aren't needed for rural areas. Any DLA fans can start crying now as scrap seems inevitable. Arriva London isn't going to pay about 10k per bus to convert and refurb them and the provinces have there own displaced buses (nil conversion costs) so its a no brainer. No great shock though - many of the DLAs have had a hard life in London. I saw a former London example in Liverpool a couple of years ago and it looked utterly worn out. Since replaced by the Volvo hybrids on cross Mersey routes to Birkenhead. One wonders if the early DWs and remaining VLWs will suffer the same fate when they are booted out of London service. Arriva try hard to get a full 14 years of London service and then somehow expect them to be cascaded for another 6-7 years use. I think that's asking a bit too much except for vehicles who've worked on really quiet routes and there aren't many of them.
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Post by M1104 on Jul 3, 2014 10:18:38 GMT
Maybe they could try flocking some of the better ones on eBay with low bid entries (sold as seen). I know there are plenty of unsold Tridents/B7TLs but there is no harm in trying, especially if the alternative for some is to sit around gathering dust. I personally would be interested if any were for sale, especially a euro3 engined beastie.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 3, 2014 10:42:41 GMT
Maybe they could try flocking some of the better ones on eBay with low bid entries (sold as seen). I know there are plenty of unsold Tridents/B7TLs but there is no harm in trying, especially if the alternative for some is to sit around gathering dust. I personally would be interested if any were for sale, especially a euro3 engined beastie. Indeed, I mean they'd get more money back than scrapping them, I'm sure plenty of independent operators will take one - a lot of the Euro II DLA's are still in great condition especially when there are much newer buses falling apart.
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