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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 11:07:27 GMT
'snoggle' - does Hong Kong have lots of hills, because the current NBfL is extremely poor when it encounters one - it's as if your riding a bus that's 30 years old which is expected to struggle rather than a modern machine. It's a pity a gas powered prototype was not built for the NB4L, baring in mind TfL appear appear not to show any interest in that option. Where would you store the gas ... Roof mounted?
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Post by M1104 on Oct 18, 2013 11:59:43 GMT
It's a pity a gas powered prototype was not built for the NB4L, baring in mind TfL appear appear not to show any interest in that option. Where would you store the gas ... Roof mounted? Have a one staircase version with the gas tanks underneath the staircase. Two ex-London double deckers have had their own prototype conversions in the United States, RT1235 and an open top MCW Metrobus.
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Post by snoggle on Oct 18, 2013 12:17:25 GMT
'snoggle' - does Hong Kong have lots of hills, because the current NBfL is extremely poor when it encounters one - it's as if your riding a bus that's 30 years old which is expected to struggle rather than a modern machine. Yes there are certain parts of HK which are very hilly indeed. About 60% of the land mass of HK Island and the New Territories / Kowloon is undeveloped because it is so hilly or a nature reserve. This is why there has been so much land reclamation from the sea / HK Harbour. There are certain famous bus routes (the 6 and 15 on HK Island) which run over very steep mountain roads or through areas built on hills (the Mid Levels) (well worth a ride if you ever visit). There are also a lot of flyovers and elevated roads which often have short and steep access ramps - it is not unusual to suddenly end up perched up in the sky on a flyover one minute, back on the ground next, then in a tunnel and then back in the sky again. This happens in the middle of urban areas not just out on the fast dual carriageway roads to the outlying districts. HK uses flyovers to get through traffic over complex or busy road junctions. The Hong Kong Traffic department provides links to live camera shots or snapshot views of their traffic cameras across HK. You can see what the flyovers look like by activating various views. You can also usually see HK buses too! Note HK is about 8-9 hours ahead of us.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 18, 2013 15:21:24 GMT
'snoggle' - does Hong Kong have lots of hills, because the current NBfL is extremely poor when it encounters one - it's as if your riding a bus that's 30 years old which is expected to struggle rather than a modern machine. Yes there are certain parts of HK which are very hilly indeed. About 60% of the land mass of HK Island and the New Territories / Kowloon is undeveloped because it is so hilly or a nature reserve. This is why there has been so much land reclamation from the sea / HK Harbour. There are certain famous bus routes (the 6 and 15 on HK Island) which run over very steep mountain roads or through areas built on hills (the Mid Levels) (well worth a ride if you ever visit). There are also a lot of flyovers and elevated roads which often have short and steep access ramps - it is not unusual to suddenly end up perched up in the sky on a flyover one minute, back on the ground next, then in a tunnel and then back in the sky again. This happens in the middle of urban areas not just out on the fast dual carriageway roads to the outlying districts. HK uses flyovers to get through traffic over complex or busy road junctions. The Hong Kong Traffic department provides links to live camera shots or snapshot views of their traffic cameras across HK. You can see what the flyovers look like by activating various views. You can also usually see HK buses too! Note HK is about 8-9 hours ahead of us. Thanks for the info - shows that any type of NBfL would have to be far quicker to tackle Hong Kong's Hills - especially since it struggles with a small incline near the Brooklands Bus Museum!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2013 22:56:39 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Nov 7, 2013 23:53:59 GMT
The man from KMB he say "no Borismaster for Hong Kong". Apparently the lack of air con and the open platform make it a complete non runner. I think anyone familiar with HK buses could have told the Mayor and Wrightbus they were on a hiding to nothing. Bus and Coach article
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Post by snoggle on Feb 8, 2014 9:40:03 GMT
LT3 has now moved on to Singapore and has been adorned with Metroline logos (over the Arriva ones). Comfort Delgro, who own Metroline, are based in Singapore so this is presumably to "fit in" locally. There is a photo on the Oriental Model Buses website. Goodness knows how hot the NB4L's interior will be in Singapore - temperatures are always in the mid 20s and humidity can be very high so you *really* need air conditioning there.
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