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Post by Busboy105 on Sept 21, 2023 20:45:49 GMT
Would it be called the SL9 now? SL11 as SL9 is already being proposed to being used for another route. SL9 is actually running right now. Ex-X140
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Post by COBO on Sept 21, 2023 21:31:41 GMT
SL11 as SL9 is already being proposed to being used for another route. SL9 is actually running right now. Ex-X140 Oh yeah I thought it one of proposed routes I forgot that it already exist and was the x140.
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Post by Dad91 on Sept 22, 2023 4:09:54 GMT
New Route 82 or 84 Kew Gardens Kew Green To Uxbridge Station Via 65 Ealing Road Via H91 A4 Great West Road to bath road Via 222.
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Post by northlondon83 on Sept 27, 2023 13:27:39 GMT
New Route 82 or 84 Kew Gardens Kew Green To Uxbridge Station Via 65 Ealing Road Via H91 A4 Great West Road to bath road Via 222. We don't need a link from Uxbridge to Kew, there's no demand. You're also duplicating the majority of the 222 which isn't needed. Having a route supporting the H91 is ok but the E1 is being extended to Osterley soon. If anything you should have your route on the Great West Road extended to Richmond as that would be a more popular destination than Kew
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Post by someone on Sept 28, 2023 16:24:25 GMT
Would it be called the SL9 now? SL11 as SL9 is already being proposed to being used for another route. Oh. Sorry, I'm not sure of the Superloop numbers. Thanks.
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Post by wirewiper on Oct 10, 2023 7:26:39 GMT
492:
- Withdrawn between Crayford Town Centre and Bluewater (see non-TfL 482 below). No longer operates within Kent. - Rerouted at Sidcup High Street via Elm Road, Queen Mary Hospital, A20 to Crittal's Corner, Sevenoaks Road to Orpington High Street and Orpington Station. 30-minute frequency from 06.00-midnight on all days. Provides more direct link between Orpington and Bexley/Bexleyheath and more links for North Cray.
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- New route, operated commercially or with Kent CC support (no TfL involvement). Crayford Town Centre to Bluewater, replacing route 492. Every 30 minutes Monday-Saturday daytimes, 60 minutes evenings and Sunday trading hours. Could be amended in any future review of services in Dartford and Gravesend.
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Post by busboy17 on Oct 15, 2023 20:27:16 GMT
X18: Portman Square - Harrow, Bus Station Portman Square Baker Street Edgware Road Station Royal Oak Station Harrow Road, Elgin Ave Harrow Road, Ladbroke Grove Kensal Green Station Scrubs Lane Willesden Junction Station (Harrow Road Side) Harlesden Jubilee Clock Craven Park, Knatchbull Road Stonebridge Park Station Wembley Triangle Wembley Central Sudbury Either continues via: Option 1 Sudbury Court Drive for Sudbury Hill Dudley Gardens for connections to South Harrow Harrow, Bus Station Option 2: Perrin Road Northwick Park Hospital Harrow, Bus Station I'd extend it to King's Cross and have it stop at Euston but idk If that would be to long
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Post by britishguy54 on Oct 15, 2023 21:27:18 GMT
I’d like to hear some ideas for some SL radial route ideas. Primarily for North/East London.
My version would seem to go for:
SL11: West Hampstead - Edgware (interchanges with SL1, SL10) SL12: Canary Wharf - Romford (interchanges with SL2, SL4)
What are your ideas? Could they be somewhere else entirely?
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 16, 2023 10:39:30 GMT
I’d like to hear some ideas for some SL radial route ideas. Primarily for North/East London. My version would seem to go for: SL11: West Hampstead - Edgware (interchanges with SL1, SL10) SL12: Canary Wharf - Romford (interchanges with SL2, SL4) What are your ideas? Could they be somewhere else entirely? Ideally they would go to zone 1 like the SL6 does.
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Post by britishguy54 on Oct 16, 2023 14:15:59 GMT
I’d like to hear some ideas for some SL radial route ideas. Primarily for North/East London. My version would seem to go for: SL11: West Hampstead - Edgware (interchanges with SL1, SL10) SL12: Canary Wharf - Romford (interchanges with SL2, SL4) What are your ideas? Could they be somewhere else entirely? Ideally they would go to zone 1 like the SL6 does. That does make sense. SL11 could be extended from West Hampstead to Paddington or Marylebone. SL12 (and SL4) could be extended to Aldgate or Liverpool Street.
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Post by northlondon83 on Oct 16, 2023 14:39:39 GMT
Ideally they would go to zone 1 like the SL6 does. That does make sense. SL11 could be extended from West Hampstead to Paddington or Marylebone. SL12 (and SL4) could be extended to Aldgate or Liverpool Street. I was thinking that your SL12 could be an express version of the 5 and 15 combined together, though perhaps only as far as Aldgate
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Post by wirewiper on Oct 16, 2023 14:56:48 GMT
I’d like to hear some ideas for some SL radial route ideas. Primarily for North/East London. My version would seem to go for: SL11: West Hampstead - Edgware (interchanges with SL1, SL10) SL12: Canary Wharf - Romford (interchanges with SL2, SL4) What are your ideas? Could they be somewhere else entirely? You don't give a routeing for your proposed SL11. I would argue that the 113 already does a similar thing, OK it isn't an express route but it is faster than most routes due to being on a dual carriageway virtually all the way and making good use of bus lanes along Finchley Road. I could see a Canary Wharf-Romford route making use of the A13, although given how frequently that road snarls up and causes a ripple effect all over East London would it be reliable enough to attract sufficient custom? Especially given there are already decent radial rail routes and interchanges in the area. In general I am not in favour of express bus routes along radial corridors that are already well served by rail routes. Bus services have a role on these corridors, but it is for the much more local journeys and local access to shops and services, which mean that buses should serve all the stops even if only by request.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Oct 16, 2023 21:15:37 GMT
I’d like to hear some ideas for some SL radial route ideas. Primarily for North/East London. My version would seem to go for: SL11: West Hampstead - Edgware (interchanges with SL1, SL10) SL12: Canary Wharf - Romford (interchanges with SL2, SL4) What are your ideas? Could they be somewhere else entirely? It depends what route the SL12 will take, the most direct would be following the 5 through to Canning Town and then diverting off to Canary Wharf. While an express 5 would be useful, it'd probably not be the best use of TfL's funds. The 5 has usage at all stops along its route, and while Barking is no doubt its busiest location it remains busy constantly and skipping stops to get places might not actually prove as popular as it may seem. Especially between Barking and Romford where you have no direct pinch points. I think if East London needs an express route, any route would go from Zone 4 into Central London from either Barking or Ilford. Probably Barking as Ilford already has the 25. I'd be weary against sending any express route to Romford just because those relevant sections of the 5 and 86 are not express route nature. Where would you stop an X5 or an X86? Presumably Becontree Heath for the former and Chadwell Heath for the latter but pinpointing other locations won't be as easy. Romford also has the Elizabeth Line now, people travelling longer distances tend to use that. Romford is not a deprived area like other areas in East London and people there can generally afford to use the train. The best uses of money in Romford would be to simply give routes in the area frequency increases and capacity increases. I'm sure the 193 could do with longer buses while frequency increases on the 175 and 103 would prove very popular. Reinstating the 296s night service would give Marks Gate the night service it needs and the 296 would do even better being made a high frequency route.
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Post by TB123 on Oct 17, 2023 9:11:57 GMT
I’d like to hear some ideas for some SL radial route ideas. Primarily for North/East London. My version would seem to go for: SL11: West Hampstead - Edgware (interchanges with SL1, SL10) SL12: Canary Wharf - Romford (interchanges with SL2, SL4) What are your ideas? Could they be somewhere else entirely? It depends what route the SL12 will take, the most direct would be following the 5 through to Canning Town and then diverting off to Canary Wharf. While an express 5 would be useful, it'd probably not be the best use of TfL's funds. The 5 has usage at all stops along its route, and while Barking is no doubt its busiest location it remains busy constantly and skipping stops to get places might not actually prove as popular as it may seem. Especially between Barking and Romford where you have no direct pinch points. I think if East London needs an express route, any route would go from Zone 4 into Central London from either Barking or Ilford. Probably Barking as Ilford already has the 25. I'd be weary against sending any express route to Romford just because those relevant sections of the 5 and 86 are not express route nature. Where would you stop an X5 or an X86? Presumably Becontree Heath for the former and Chadwell Heath for the latter but pinpointing other locations won't be as easy. Romford also has the Elizabeth Line now, people travelling longer distances tend to use that. Romford is not a deprived area like other areas in East London and people there can generally afford to use the train. The best uses of money in Romford would be to simply give routes in the area frequency increases and capacity increases. I'm sure the 193 could do with longer buses while frequency increases on the 175 and 103 would prove very popular. Reinstating the 296s night service would give Marks Gate the night service it needs and the 296 would do even better being made a high frequency route. The 193 is under review for loadings at the moment so hopefully from the new tender it will get either longer buses or double decks (unless there's a restriction)
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Post by mb171 on Nov 11, 2023 20:24:48 GMT
This is just fantasy - but this is for the Woolwich routes.
244 - rerouted between Herbert Road and Woolwich via Sandy Hill Road (towards Abbey Wood) and Bloomfield Road to allow longer buses to operate. If 10.8m buses can operate on the 244, then surely full size buses (at least 11.5m) should not be a struggle as i dont think it has any other physical restrictions - it would be a good alternative to double deckers.
386 - rerouted between Herbert Road and Woolwich via Plumstead Common Road and Burrage Road. The top part of Burrage Road is unserved by buses - many buses have been on diversion through there before (i even saw a 291 on diversion there today so if 10.2m double deckers can be diverted through there, then surely 9.6m buses can do the same thing.) Terminating point is Burrage Road.
451 - new route between Woolwich and Queen Mary's Hospital - replacing the Woolwich Common section on the 244, then via the 244 until Shooters Hill, the Bull. As the 244 does get busy in that section during peak time I do think another route may be useful to help the 244.
Then the 451 turns to Foxcroft Road and Eaglesfield Road, before joining the 89 and 486 at Shooters Hill. The 451 will follow them to Welling where it will it turn to Westwood Lane and through to Hook Lane and Blackfen - after Blackfen it will follow the 132 to Penhill Road, after Penhill Road it will go through to Hurst Road, where it will finally arrive at Sidcup and terminate at Queen Marys Hospital.
451 will run every 12-15 minutes throughout Mondays - Fridays, however this will drop to every 20 minutes on Sundays and Late evenings
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