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Post by busboy17 on Apr 11, 2019 16:46:28 GMT
So I'd say the 291 isn't that much of a great route I would say an extension from queens hospital to charlton via route 380 to charlton station or could keep on going to North Greenwich to take some heat off the 486 and 380 or extended to Pepys estate via route 188 then 199 and a new bus stop beside the roundabout where the 199 with no stop or bus stand markings stops sometimes
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Post by vjaska on Apr 11, 2019 17:30:24 GMT
So I'd say the 291 isn't that much of a great route I would say an extension from queens hospital to charlton via route 380 to charlton station or could keep on going to North Greenwich to take some heat off the 486 and 380 or extended to Pepys estate via route 188 then 199 and a new bus stop beside the roundabout where the 199 with no stop or bus stand markings stops sometimes I suggest you use the 291 and see just how important and busy the route is. I personally don’t see any need for it to go anywhere other than where it already.
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Post by sid on Apr 11, 2019 17:56:57 GMT
So I'd say the 291 isn't that much of a great route I would say an extension from queens hospital to charlton via route 380 to charlton station or could keep on going to North Greenwich to take some heat off the 486 and 380 or extended to Pepys estate via route 188 then 199 and a new bus stop beside the roundabout where the 199 with no stop or bus stand markings stops sometimes It would mean a double run to serve the hospital but an extension to North Greenwich might be useful if the 486 is reduced.
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Post by busboy17 on Apr 11, 2019 18:03:57 GMT
So I'd say the 291 isn't that much of a great route I would say an extension from queens hospital to charlton via route 380 to charlton station or could keep on going to North Greenwich to take some heat off the 486 and 380 or extended to Pepys estate via route 188 then 199 and a new bus stop beside the roundabout where the 199 with no stop or bus stand markings stops sometimes I suggest you use the 291 and see just how important and busy the route is. I personally don’t see any need for it to go anywhere other than where it already. I do use it and it's short and yeah it works but it could do with an extension considering when I and others use the 486 it's always packed
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Post by LVF_Admin on Apr 11, 2019 18:17:31 GMT
I suggest you use the 291 and see just how important and busy the route is. I personally don’t see any need for it to go anywhere other than where it already. I do use it and it's short and yeah it works but it could do with an extension considering when I and others use the 486 it's always packed Years ago the 291 ran to Lewisham albeit via the Shooters Hill part of the 244, that aside I can't see it warranting an extension where as I could see the 202 being extended from the Royal Standard to North Greenwich opening up new links for Blackheath, Lee, Catford etc
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Post by busboy17 on Apr 11, 2019 18:26:49 GMT
I do use it and it's short and yeah it works but it could do with an extension considering when I and others use the 486 it's always packed Years ago the 291 ran to Lewisham albeit via the Shooters Hill part of the 244, that aside I can't see it warranting an extension where as I could see the 202 being extended from the Royal Standard to North Greenwich opening up new links for Blackheath, Lee, Catford etc True but where would the 202 go the 422 and 108 already got from the Royal standard to North Greenwich and maze hill would be good without the restrictions but I don't see how it could run along side the 422 and 108 as its a tight road going down hill with the existing routes plus many other vehicles use that road
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Post by twobellstogo on Apr 11, 2019 22:43:38 GMT
So I'd say the 291 isn't that much of a great route I would say an extension from queens hospital to charlton via route 380 to charlton station or could keep on going to North Greenwich to take some heat off the 486 and 380 or extended to Pepys estate via route 188 then 199 and a new bus stop beside the roundabout where the 199 with no stop or bus stand markings stops sometimes I suggest you use the 291 and see just how important and busy the route is. I personally don’t see any need for it to go anywhere other than where it already. busboy17 has fallen into a very common trap : on paper the 291 looks ripe for extension but it only terminates at one end - effectively doubling its length compared to most routes that terminate at each end. As such - not really suitable for an extension, but some routes in the area could be ripe for projection in better financial times.
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Post by route53 on Apr 24, 2019 22:33:56 GMT
I’d like to extend the 96 to North Greenwich via Woolwich Common, Shooters Hill, Blackheath Sun in the Sands then non stop via the A102 road to Greenwich Millennium Park.
I’d also like to extend the 53 to Victoria Bus station
178 to New Cross Gate
386 rerouted away from Blackheath Village to Deptford
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Post by LVF_Admin on Apr 25, 2019 7:21:13 GMT
I’d like to extend the 96 to North Greenwich via Woolwich Common, Shooters Hill, Blackheath Sun in the Sands then non stop via the A102 road to Greenwich Millennium Park. I’d also like to extend the 53 to Victoria Bus station 178 to New Cross Gate 386 rerouted away from Blackheath Village to Deptford 178 changes not required, route is working exceptionally well and fast since moving to GAL mainly with Drivers who are happy to be on the route too. Lewisham to NX Gate already has plenty of services
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Post by abellion on Apr 25, 2019 17:16:16 GMT
I’d like to extend the 96 to North Greenwich via Woolwich Common, Shooters Hill, Blackheath Sun in the Sands then non stop via the A102 road to Greenwich Millennium Park. I’d also like to extend the 53 to Victoria Bus station 178 to New Cross Gate 386 rerouted away from Blackheath Village to Deptford Extending the 53 to Victoria is going to ruin the route's reliability a lot. It's already struggling as it is
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Post by cl54 on Apr 25, 2019 20:47:10 GMT
I’d like to extend the 96 to North Greenwich via Woolwich Common, Shooters Hill, Blackheath Sun in the Sands then non stop via the A102 road to Greenwich Millennium Park. I’d also like to extend the 53 to Victoria Bus station 178 to New Cross Gate 386 rerouted away from Blackheath Village to Deptford Ideally curtail the 386 at Greenwich Cutty Sark but the removal of the one way system will remove the stands. No suitable turning point at Deptford. Would not be able to turn right out of Deptford Bridge stand.
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Post by cl54 on Apr 25, 2019 20:50:42 GMT
I suggest you use the 291 and see just how important and busy the route is. I personally don’t see any need for it to go anywhere other than where it already. busboy17 has fallen into a very common trap : on paper the 291 looks ripe for extension but it only terminates at one end - effectively doubling its length compared to most routes that terminate at each end. As such - not really suitable for an extension, but some routes in the area could be ripe for projection in better financial times. I think it would improve connections to run the 244 via Academy Road and Ha Ha Road to the Queen Elizabeth Hospital. The 291 manages very nicely as it is.
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Post by LVF_Admin on Apr 26, 2019 11:45:35 GMT
busboy17 has fallen into a very common trap : on paper the 291 looks ripe for extension but it only terminates at one end - effectively doubling its length compared to most routes that terminate at each end. As such - not really suitable for an extension, but some routes in the area could be ripe for projection in better financial times. I think it would improve connections to run the 244 via Academy Road and Ha Ha Road to the Queen Elizabeth Hospital. The 291 manages very nicely as it is. The 244 was re routed via Shooters Hill when the 178 was re routed via the Hospital, can't see those links being severed. Especially with the very active Community Groups on Shooters Hill
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Post by LVF_Admin on Apr 26, 2019 11:55:06 GMT
I’d like to extend the 96 to North Greenwich via Woolwich Common, Shooters Hill, Blackheath Sun in the Sands then non stop via the A102 road to Greenwich Millennium Park. I’d also like to extend the 53 to Victoria Bus station 178 to New Cross Gate 386 rerouted away from Blackheath Village to Deptford Ideally curtail the 386 at Greenwich Cutty Sark but the removal of the one way system will remove the stands. No suitable turning point at Deptford. Would not be able to turn right out of Deptford Bridge stand. Leave the 386 alone, its not a route the travelling public use end to end as there are quicker alternatives, however it serves loads of Communities that would be without any transport without it and provides vital links to QEH and shopping centres.
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Post by cl54 on Apr 26, 2019 13:51:49 GMT
Ideally curtail the 386 at Greenwich Cutty Sark but the removal of the one way system will remove the stands. No suitable turning point at Deptford. Would not be able to turn right out of Deptford Bridge stand. Leave the 386 alone, its not a route the travelling public use end to end as there are quicker alternatives, however it serves loads of Communities that would be without any transport without it and provides vital links to QEH and shopping centres. The 386 carries a lot of fresh air across Blackheath and suffers from severe traffic delays on the A2. There are no homes on the heath. This destroys the service at the busy parts of the route. Anyone travelling from Blackheath Village to the QEH would get there far quicker by taking an 89 and changing on Shooters Hill Road. Lewisham is available as a good shopping centre from other parts of the route.
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