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Post by cl54 on Apr 26, 2019 13:55:27 GMT
I think it would improve connections to run the 244 via Academy Road and Ha Ha Road to the Queen Elizabeth Hospital. The 291 manages very nicely as it is. The 244 was re routed via Shooters Hill when the 178 was re routed via the Hospital, can't see those links being severed. Especially with the very active Community Groups on Shooters Hill I'm not suggesting removing it from Shooters Hill. My suggestion was to run via Academy Road to and from the hospital rather than Stadium Road. It would actually reach the main entrance at the hospital which it doesn't do now. It would also be of benefit to the residents of the Woolwich Academy site. 400 homes.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2019 14:49:19 GMT
Leave the 386 alone, its not a route the travelling public use end to end as there are quicker alternatives, however it serves loads of Communities that would be without any transport without it and provides vital links to QEH and shopping centres. The 386 carries a lot of fresh air across Blackheath and suffers from severe traffic delays on the A2. There are no homes on the heath. This destroys the service at the busy parts of the route. Anyone travelling from Blackheath Village to the QEH would get there far quicker by taking an 89 and changing on Shooters Hill Road. Lewisham is available as a good shopping centre from other parts of the route. I disagree, regularly driving the 386. Especially these days and summer time. Carries lots of passengers to and from Blackheath Village and Greenwich Park. It's very useful in its current form.
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Post by LVF_Admin on Apr 26, 2019 17:09:07 GMT
The 244 was re routed via Shooters Hill when the 178 was re routed via the Hospital, can't see those links being severed. Especially with the very active Community Groups on Shooters Hill I'm not suggesting removing it from Shooters Hill. My suggestion was to run via Academy Road to and from the hospital rather than Stadium Road. It would actually reach the main entrance at the hospital which it doesn't do now. It would also be of benefit to the residents of the Woolwich Academy site. 400 homes. Ah yes I forgot about Woolwich Academy, another place I was part of the design & build during its early regeneration. It's not that far to walk across the Common from there to the hospital.
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Post by cl54 on Apr 26, 2019 20:32:16 GMT
I'm not suggesting removing it from Shooters Hill. My suggestion was to run via Academy Road to and from the hospital rather than Stadium Road. It would actually reach the main entrance at the hospital which it doesn't do now. It would also be of benefit to the residents of the Woolwich Academy site. 400 homes. Ah yes I forgot about Woolwich Academy, another place I was part of the design & build during its early regeneration. It's not that far to walk across the Common from there to the hospital. but it would give a link over the hill and get them to more buses to Woolwich from Gunner Lane. (The 122 is not that frequent.)
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on May 11, 2019 14:45:06 GMT
Route 30 extended to Sloane Square. It would incidentally reinstate a direct Hackney - Sloane Square link covered by route 22 until 1987.
Route 137 withdrawn.
Route 319 extended from Telford Avenue to Sloane Square via Clapham Common. It would thus become a circular route Sloane Square - Clapham Junction - Tooting Bec - Telford Avenue - Clapham Common - Sloane Square. It would retain the number 319 in one direction but be renumbered 419 in the opposite direction, as by then current route 419 will be replaced by route 110 (even if not yet through to Hammersmith).
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Post by londonbuses2018 on May 11, 2019 18:31:28 GMT
Potential TFL reshuffle for North London
134 - North Finchley to Waterloo (North Finchley has no link to Waterloo or Aldwych) 611 - Discontinued 112 - Ealing Broadway to North Finchley via Hendon and Finchley Central 266 - Acton to Colindale Superstores (Stop CO) via Aerodrome Road connecting Colindale to Acton via Cricklewood and Harlesden 302 - Mill Hill Broadway to Finchley Central via 260,13 (Replaces the 460) 460 - Discontinued N102 - Edmonton Green to Willesden Junction (Cricklewood Lane doesn’t have a night service from Golders Green as it serves the 24 Hour Thameslink Trains) 142 - Brent Cross to Watford Junction - 24 Hour Weekend Service introduced 221 - Turnpike Lane to Edgware - 24 Hour Weekend Service introduced 140/N140 - Hayes and Harlington to Edgware (Edgware doesn’t have a link to Hayes and Harlington would run via 340) 340 - Harrow to Mill Hill East (Harrow has no link to Mill Hill East to run via 221, to also give extra support during school times) 268 - Finchley O2 Centre, to Brent Cross Shopping Centre via 210.
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Post by COBO on May 14, 2019 4:21:59 GMT
X16:
Running between Stanmore Church and Victoria. Stopping at the following places: Stanmore Church Stanmore Broadway Stanmore Station Edgware High Street Edgware Community Hospital Burnt Oak Broadway Colindale Superstores West Hendon Broadway Cricklewood Broadway Kilburn Station Brondesbury Station Kilburn High Road Station Maida Vale Station Edgware Road Station (Bakerloo Line) Edgware Road Station (Circle, District and Hammersmith & City Line) Marble Arch Hyde Park Corner Station Victoria Bus Station
Operator: Metroline or Abellio London or London Sovereign or Tower Transit or London General.
Garages: Edgware (EW) or Edgware (BT) or Cricklewood (w) or Westbourne Park (X) or Battersea (QB) or Stockwell (SW)
Using: Double deckers.
Purpose: To link Stanmore and Edgware with Victoria.
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Post by VWH1414 on May 15, 2019 21:55:16 GMT
Potential TFL reshuffle for North London 134 - North Finchley to Waterloo (North Finchley has no link to Waterloo or Aldwych) 611 - Discontinued 112 - Ealing Broadway to North Finchley via Hendon and Finchley Central 266 - Acton to Colindale Superstores (Stop CO) via Aerodrome Road connecting Colindale to Acton via Cricklewood and Harlesden 302 - Mill Hill Broadway to Finchley Central via 260,13 (Replaces the 460) 460 - Discontinued N102 - Edmonton Green to Willesden Junction (Cricklewood Lane doesn’t have a night service from Golders Green as it serves the 24 Hour Thameslink Trains) 142 - Brent Cross to Watford Junction - 24 Hour Weekend Service introduced 221 - Turnpike Lane to Edgware - 24 Hour Weekend Service introduced 140/N140 - Hayes and Harlington to Edgware (Edgware doesn’t have a link to Hayes and Harlington would run via 340) 340 - Harrow to Mill Hill East (Harrow has no link to Mill Hill East to run via 221, to also give extra support during school times) 268 - Finchley O2 Centre, to Brent Cross Shopping Centre via 210. I think the 302 and 460 should be left as they are tbh. The 340 doesn't need to be extended to Mill Hill East either, if anyone wants to get from Mill Hill East to Harrow then they can just swap for the 240 from Edgware - I can't see there being much demand to get to Harrow from Mill Hill East or vice versa anyway. Again with the 140 I don't see there being much appeal in linking Hayes and Edgware. These days I feel people are just finding really pointless links as an excuse to extend routes.
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Post by COBO on May 16, 2019 5:51:58 GMT
Potential TFL reshuffle for North London 134 - North Finchley to Waterloo (North Finchley has no link to Waterloo or Aldwych) 611 - Discontinued 112 - Ealing Broadway to North Finchley via Hendon and Finchley Central 266 - Acton to Colindale Superstores (Stop CO) via Aerodrome Road connecting Colindale to Acton via Cricklewood and Harlesden 302 - Mill Hill Broadway to Finchley Central via 260,13 (Replaces the 460) 460 - Discontinued N102 - Edmonton Green to Willesden Junction (Cricklewood Lane doesn’t have a night service from Golders Green as it serves the 24 Hour Thameslink Trains) 142 - Brent Cross to Watford Junction - 24 Hour Weekend Service introduced 221 - Turnpike Lane to Edgware - 24 Hour Weekend Service introduced 140/N140 - Hayes and Harlington to Edgware (Edgware doesn’t have a link to Hayes and Harlington would run via 340) 340 - Harrow to Mill Hill East (Harrow has no link to Mill Hill East to run via 221, to also give extra support during school times) 268 - Finchley O2 Centre, to Brent Cross Shopping Centre via 210. I think the 302 and 460 should be left as they are tbh. The 340 doesn't need to be extended to Mill Hill East either, if anyone wants to get from Mill Hill East to Harrow then they can just swap for the 240 from Edgware - I can't see there being much demand to get to Harrow from Mill Hill East or vice versa anyway. Again with the 140 I don't see there being much appeal in linking Hayes and Edgware. These days I feel people are just finding really pointless links as an excuse to extend routes. What makes them pointless?
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Post by twobellstogo on May 16, 2019 12:04:13 GMT
Bear in mind, wonderful people, that this thread is a fantasy thread - ideas that are most unlikely to ever reach fruition : therefore some of the criticisms here are not really appropriate.
To that end - watch out later for my idea to turn anything that crosses the TfL border green, along with mass renumberings of routes to ensure routes into Berkshire, Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex are all numbered in the 3xx series and those into Kent and Surrey into the 4xx series. Oh yes 😃😂
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Post by vjaska on May 16, 2019 13:33:12 GMT
Bear in mind, wonderful people, that this thread is a fantasy thread - ideas that are most unlikely to ever reach fruition : therefore some of the criticisms here are not really appropriate. To that end - watch out later for my idea to turn anything that crosses the TfL border green, along with mass renumberings of routes to ensure routes into Berkshire, Buckinghamshire, Hertfordshire and Essex are all numbered in the 3xx series and those into Kent and Surrey into the 4xx series. Oh yes 😃😂 True though some also seem to end up in the other thread as well lol.
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Post by VWH1414 on May 16, 2019 15:31:43 GMT
I think the 302 and 460 should be left as they are tbh. The 340 doesn't need to be extended to Mill Hill East either, if anyone wants to get from Mill Hill East to Harrow then they can just swap for the 240 from Edgware - I can't see there being much demand to get to Harrow from Mill Hill East or vice versa anyway. Again with the 140 I don't see there being much appeal in linking Hayes and Edgware. These days I feel people are just finding really pointless links as an excuse to extend routes. What makes them pointless? Well why would there be a need for this link? There is nothing particularly special in places such as Mill Hill East to warrant having a link, besides the link is technically already there except you have to change bus.
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Post by COBO on May 16, 2019 17:47:13 GMT
What makes them pointless? Well why would there be a need for this link? There is nothing particularly special in places such as Mill Hill East to warrant having a link, besides the link is technically already there except you have to change bus. Why would there be a link for anywhere? Who needs to go anywhere let’s just stay where we are? Unless there’s an consultation how do we know that the link is not needed? We are just guessing that the links are not needed.
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Post by rif153 on May 17, 2019 6:31:00 GMT
Well why would there be a need for this link? There is nothing particularly special in places such as Mill Hill East to warrant having a link, besides the link is technically already there except you have to change bus. Why would there be a link for anywhere? Who needs to go anywhere let’s just stay where we are? Unless there’s an consultation how do we know that the link is not needed? We are just guessing that the links are not needed. Yes but there is little in and around Mill Hill East, it’s no exactly a popular destination
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Post by VWH1414 on May 17, 2019 16:44:45 GMT
Well why would there be a need for this link? There is nothing particularly special in places such as Mill Hill East to warrant having a link, besides the link is technically already there except you have to change bus. Why would there be a link for anywhere? Who needs to go anywhere let’s just stay where we are? Unless there’s an consultation how do we know that the link is not needed? We are just guessing that the links are not needed. I'm hardly guessing, I live in the area! I know there is little around Mill Hill East for it to be worth having yet another link (bearing in mind the 221/240/382 provide adequate links for anyone in the area). Also the usual reason for a link is actually to be useful, such as linking an area with lots of businesses to an area that has a fairly large population density, e.g. the 113 is useful in linking Edgware (Which has a small shopping centre aka the broadwalk as well as a fairly large population) and London (Which of course contains all the businesses). So there is no need for sarcastic remarks such as "Who needs to go anywhere"
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