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Post by snoggle on Sept 8, 2014 13:40:47 GMT
TfL have opened a consultation on the proposal to extend London Overground services on the Barking - Gospel Oak route to Barking Riverside Consultation page linkThere are also public exhibition sessions planned in the Barking / Thames View Estate / Barking Reach areas.
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Post by routew15 on Sept 8, 2014 17:59:25 GMT
Really want to see this extension happen. It would of been nice if they mentioned safeguarding a route that continued to Thamesmead. I really like the "Future London Overground" which featured the Crossrail line, Old Oak Common Station, Lea Valley Lines and Romford to Upminster. Quite surprised that Surrey Canal Road Station was not plopped on the map that station seems to be a big deal (clearly it is not as big a deal as Old Oak Common which seems to be quite away off). Nice to see interchanges between Hackney Downs >< Hackney Central, Wanstead Park >< Forest Gate, Walthamstow Central >< Walthamstow Queens Road and Old Oak Common with Crossrail.
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Post by twobellstogo on Sept 9, 2014 8:44:18 GMT
Really want to see this extension happen. It would of been nice if they mentioned safeguarding a route that continued to Thamesmead. This. Seems to be the best chance yet of finally adding Thamesmead to the rail network.
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Post by snoggle on Sept 9, 2014 9:57:20 GMT
Really want to see this extension happen. It would of been nice if they mentioned safeguarding a route that continued to Thamesmead. This. Seems to be the best chance yet of finally adding Thamesmead to the rail network. Well the consultation text makes a brief mention of the possibility of a southwards extension. Oddly, though, the extension will be constructed on a viaduct through the riverside site once the line leaves the C2C Rainham line. TfL have added a new picture on the consultation page showing an artists impression of the new station which is on a viaduct! Quite how you get down from a viaduct and into a tunnel deep enough to get under the Thames in the relatively short distance available at Riverside (I checked on Google sat view) I am not quite sure. Perhaps TfL are planning London's first "rack" railway to get trains out of the tunnel and on to the viaduct?
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Post by bigbaddom1981 on Sept 9, 2014 11:46:41 GMT
This. Seems to be the best chance yet of finally adding Thamesmead to the rail network. Well the consultation text makes a brief mention of the possibility of a southwards extension. Oddly, though, the extension will be constructed on a viaduct through the riverside site once the line leaves the C2C Rainham line. TfL have added a new picture on the consultation page showing an artists impression of the new station which is on a viaduct! Quite how you get down from a viaduct and into a tunnel deep enough to get under the Thames in the relatively short distance available at Riverside (I checked on Google sat view) I am not quite sure. Perhaps TfL are planning London's first "rack" railway to get trains out of the tunnel and on to the viaduct? Maybe they will build a bridge instead
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Post by routew15 on May 11, 2015 15:35:40 GMT
Today TfL has launched a second consultation on the Barking Riverside extension of the London Overground (Gospel Oak to Barking Line) The consultation discusses the two route alignments and displays them in (my opinion) basic and hardly detailed, maps. In a nutshell: Alignment A is direct to Barking Riverside. Alignment B is direct but creates the provision for an additional station to be added at Renwick Road Bridge. Both alignments will run from platforms 7 & 8 at Barking Station, however Platform 1 will be retained and used to "aid service recovery during periods of disruption." (Which is highly likely on the GOBLIN due to frieght services) For full details Consultation Page here closes Sunday 21st Jun 2015
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Post by routew15 on Sept 4, 2015 20:58:44 GMT
The results for the second Barking Riverside London Overground Extension consultation are in. TfL have decided to proceed with Option B of the proposals. A new third round of consultations is expected to take place late this year. Exhausted with all this questions lest get on with it! It's quite frustrating that it takes over 5 years to extend a train line just under 3 miles. This is all before we've even started to think about crossing the river to Thamesmead! When will that happen 2033? To see the Full consultation report click here( click here for the main consultation page)
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Post by snoggle on Sept 4, 2015 22:09:47 GMT
The results for the second Barking Riverside London Overground Extension consultation are in. TfL have decided to proceed with Option B of the proposals. A new third round of consultations is expected to take place late this year. Exhausted with all this questions lest get on with it! It's quite frustrating that it takes over 5 years to extend a train line just under 3 miles. This is all before we've even started to think about crossing the river to Thamesmead! When will that happen 2033? To see the Full consultation report click here( click here for the main consultation page) I meant to comment on this earlier as I got the E mail from TfL. Funny that I can see where I live as a dot on the map of consultation respondees in the report. Interesting that the politicians are all saying "get on with it, build a second station and extend it under the Thames as one project".
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 11, 2015 19:19:04 GMT
That's good and it's good they will go ahead with the electrification from South Tottenham to Gospel Oak. I hope they put some decent shops in the development at Barking Riverside
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Post by vjaska on Oct 11, 2015 19:25:27 GMT
That's good and it's good they will go ahead with the electrification from South Tottenham to Gospel Oak. I hope they put some decent shops in the development at Barking Riverside At least Barking will look a tiny bit less horrible I guess - the people are fine but everything else just seems really poor.
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 11, 2015 19:31:46 GMT
That's good and it's good they will go ahead with the electrification from South Tottenham to Gospel Oak. I hope they put some decent shops in the development at Barking Riverside At least Barking will look a tiny bit less horrible I guess - the people are fine but everything else just seems really poor. Sadly the majority of Barking as we know it will stay the same, this is in reality a group of Barratt Homes built on a muddy peninsula by the Thames... I can see it now. Typical new build quality, plasterboard walls, open plan "trendy" kitchen / living area, low ceilings and high cost... and a Tesco Metro as I think Waitrose would turn their nose up at Barking
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Post by snoggle on Oct 11, 2015 21:09:33 GMT
At least Barking will look a tiny bit less horrible I guess - the people are fine but everything else just seems really poor. Sadly the majority of Barking as we know it will stay the same, this is in reality a group of Barratt Homes built on a muddy peninsula by the Thames... I can see it now. Typical new build quality, plasterboard walls, open plan "trendy" kitchen / living area, low ceilings and high cost... and a Tesco Metro as I think Waitrose would turn their nose up at Barking Eeeh dear you bunch of snobs! London is a great big melting pot and is all the better for it. I would much rather a "real" place like Barking than some of these ghastly half empty ridiculously expensive "gated" communities that are popping up in the likes of Battersea, Nine Elms and elsewhere. I think if I see the phrase "luxury development and penthouses" on another hoarding I'll scream. What on earth is the point of all of this is no one can afford to live in these places. And what is the point of places that are designed to be separate and private from everything else around. Designing and building ghettos - whether occupied by the poor or the rich - has a very poor track record. And on the subject of Waitrose I see a new Nine Elms branch will open in November despite none of the development being occupied and almost all of it is not built yet. Returning to things railway TfL have published a paper about possible DLR and Overground improvements. Looks like the GOBLIN might go to a x12 min frequency after electrification. We might also get better evening and weekend services - earlier starts and higher late evening frequencies - in 2017 when the new concession contract starts. tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/documents/rup-20151016-part-1-item09-lo-and-dlr-growth.pdf
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Post by vjaska on Oct 11, 2015 23:19:59 GMT
Sadly the majority of Barking as we know it will stay the same, this is in reality a group of Barratt Homes built on a muddy peninsula by the Thames... I can see it now. Typical new build quality, plasterboard walls, open plan "trendy" kitchen / living area, low ceilings and high cost... and a Tesco Metro as I think Waitrose would turn their nose up at Barking Eeeh dear you bunch of snobs! London is a great big melting pot and is all the better for it. I would much rather a "real" place like Barking than some of these ghastly half empty ridiculously expensive "gated" communities that are popping up in the likes of Battersea, Nine Elms and elsewhere. I think if I see the phrase "luxury development and penthouses" on another hoarding I'll scream. What on earth is the point of all of this is no one can afford to live in these places. And what is the point of places that are designed to be separate and private from everything else around. Designing and building ghettos - whether occupied by the poor or the rich - has a very poor track record. And on the subject of Waitrose I see a new Nine Elms branch will open in November despite none of the development being occupied and almost all of it is not built yet. Returning to things railway TfL have published a paper about possible DLR and Overground improvements. Looks like the GOBLIN might go to a x12 min frequency after electrification. We might also get better evening and weekend services - earlier starts and higher late evening frequencies - in 2017 when the new concession contract starts. tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/documents/rup-20151016-part-1-item09-lo-and-dlr-growth.pdfI wasn't on about new buildings (most look horrible and are built to standard - the 7 year old house I live in is a good example) but more that Barking & Dagenham council don't seem to care about the area they cover. It looks very dull in places, the road system in the town centre is horrific, the roads themselves don't seem to have been resurfaced in years & whilst the council replaced their streetlights on the main roads, the actual columns they sit are in a dreadful state with the majority consisting of replaced covers where the electrics are housed and paint either missing, pealing or both. Parts of inner North London are the same but not as drastically horrible - too many built up areas. Lambeth is many things but at least it looks like someone cares about the place - a lot of the main roads were resurfaced, the streetlighting stock is kept in a good order, older buildings are spruced up without losing character and the town centre is easy to navigate. Just hopefully the market finally has a canopy fitted along Electric Avenue that resembled the one fitted years ago to bring some historic class back.
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 11, 2015 23:31:47 GMT
Sadly the majority of Barking as we know it will stay the same, this is in reality a group of Barratt Homes built on a muddy peninsula by the Thames... I can see it now. Typical new build quality, plasterboard walls, open plan "trendy" kitchen / living area, low ceilings and high cost... and a Tesco Metro as I think Waitrose would turn their nose up at Barking Eeeh dear you bunch of snobs! London is a great big melting pot and is all the better for it. I would much rather a "real" place like Barking than some of these ghastly half empty ridiculously expensive "gated" communities that are popping up in the likes of Battersea, Nine Elms and elsewhere. I think if I see the phrase "luxury development and penthouses" on another hoarding I'll scream. What on earth is the point of all of this is no one can afford to live in these places. And what is the point of places that are designed to be separate and private from everything else around. Designing and building ghettos - whether occupied by the poor or the rich - has a very poor track record. And on the subject of Waitrose I see a new Nine Elms branch will open in November despite none of the development being occupied and almost all of it is not built yet. Returning to things railway TfL have published a paper about possible DLR and Overground improvements. Looks like the GOBLIN might go to a x12 min frequency after electrification. We might also get better evening and weekend services - earlier starts and higher late evening frequencies - in 2017 when the new concession contract starts. tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/documents/rup-20151016-part-1-item09-lo-and-dlr-growth.pdfI do think the same, and although being facetious, there sadly is an element of truth in that the development will either look out of place like a chunk of Chelsea Harbour dumped by the Thames, or as nondescript as Purfleet or Grays is... sadly it will be sold as "the ultimate living experience with ideal vistas of the Thames in fabulous surroundings... the heart of London a stone's throw away by train" will draw in the inevitable investors from overseas who will pay the silly money to purchase it... then rent it out to the likes of us when the "Young Professionals" make for more established 'up and coming areas' as the centre of town is too much They never seem to think what pressure it would put on resources such as schools and hospitals when yet more people move into an area... New developments in Brentford are being built as if bricks are going out of fashion... Hot on the heels of "North Brentford Quarter" (235's curtailed back to the County Court as the bollards that lower to let the buses in is broken -see what I mean about build quality ) is a place called "Bankside", the Mrs went to look at these apartments in Brentford Docks and said although uber cute, the build quality is poor and it's overpriced. Though 'canny investors' won't care for the build quality, plus it would be one of their tenants in there, not themselves. Across the road from me is a huge Victorian house (6 bed, with pool), that is struggling to sell, but it could be down to the £3 million price tag Hopefully none these properties wont be left half empty, but I think the ones in Barking Riverside might struggle more without decent transport links apart from the forthcoming Overground...
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Post by ServerKing on Oct 11, 2015 23:53:27 GMT
Eeeh dear you bunch of snobs! London is a great big melting pot and is all the better for it. I would much rather a "real" place like Barking than some of these ghastly half empty ridiculously expensive "gated" communities that are popping up in the likes of Battersea, Nine Elms and elsewhere. I think if I see the phrase "luxury development and penthouses" on another hoarding I'll scream. What on earth is the point of all of this is no one can afford to live in these places. And what is the point of places that are designed to be separate and private from everything else around. Designing and building ghettos - whether occupied by the poor or the rich - has a very poor track record. And on the subject of Waitrose I see a new Nine Elms branch will open in November despite none of the development being occupied and almost all of it is not built yet. Returning to things railway TfL have published a paper about possible DLR and Overground improvements. Looks like the GOBLIN might go to a x12 min frequency after electrification. We might also get better evening and weekend services - earlier starts and higher late evening frequencies - in 2017 when the new concession contract starts. tfl.gov.uk/cdn/static/cms/documents/rup-20151016-part-1-item09-lo-and-dlr-growth.pdfI wasn't on about new buildings (most look horrible and are built to standard - the 7 year old house I live in is a good example) but more that Barking & Dagenham council don't seem to care about the area they cover. It looks very dull in places, the road system in the town centre is horrific, the roads themselves don't seem to have been resurfaced in years & whilst the council replaced their streetlights on the main roads, the actual columns they sit are in a dreadful state with the majority consisting of replaced covers where the electrics are housed and paint either missing, pealing or both. Parts of inner North London are the same but not as drastically horrible - too many built up areas. Lambeth is many things but at least it looks like someone cares about the place - a lot of the main roads were resurfaced, the streetlighting stock is kept in a good order, older buildings are spruced up without losing character and the town centre is easy to navigate. Just hopefully the market finally has a canopy fitted along Electric Avenue that resembled the one fitted years ago to bring some historic class back. +1 Although Lambeth has over zealous traffic wardens, I will say some of the nicest parts of London I have been in is there, lovely houses in West Norwood for instance. Had a trip back to Haringey this evening and there is still tons of work to do, I would have put street cleaning ahead of a disastrous £87,000 're brand' that looks like a 9 year old's effort using Microsoft Paint and a mouse with a seized trackball in it Hounslow's nice, but their litter collection is antiquated, but in general the area is clean. Barking and Dagenham suffer from trying to escape from it's industrial past, but it could be smartened up a bit. But when I think of lots of areas like Harlesden, or the tatty chaos that is Ilford, Barking doesn't seem so bad
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