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Post by sid on Sept 10, 2018 5:31:18 GMT
Converting the Wimbledon to Sutton via Morden South line to Tramlink should generate a bit more usage with higher frequencies and cheaper fares and maybe an on street section in Sutton.
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Post by snoggle on Sept 10, 2018 9:12:35 GMT
Converting the Wimbledon to Sutton via Morden South line to Tramlink should generate a bit more usage with higher frequencies and cheaper fares and maybe an on street section in Sutton. I agree that it might. However this is a new proposal that has not been assessed or evaluated before. The last few years have seen a different scheme developed in terms of engineering assessments, feasibility, business case etc. To completely change the base proposal means doing all this work again which means more delays. Obviously we must wait to see what the consultation actually says but this looks like TfL running scared from the previous idea due to the cost and, instead, opting for something that involves rather less new build to save money. Unless they have found something that renders the previous scheme undeliverable I think I'd be pretty fed up if I was a local resident hoping for a nice new tram service in my local area. EDIT - looks like that newspaper article has got things a bit mangled. Ian Visits has a more coherent report. The original tram proposal seems to remain the preferred choice thankfully. www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2018/09/10/london-underground-extension-ruled-out-in-favour-of-more-trams/
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Post by sid on Sept 10, 2018 12:20:48 GMT
Converting the Wimbledon to Sutton via Morden South line to Tramlink should generate a bit more usage with higher frequencies and cheaper fares and maybe an on street section in Sutton. I agree that it might. However this is a new proposal that has not been assessed or evaluated before. The last few years have seen a different scheme developed in terms of engineering assessments, feasibility, business case etc. To completely change the base proposal means doing all this work again which means more delays. Obviously we must wait to see what the consultation actually says but this looks like TfL running scared from the previous idea due to the cost and, instead, opting for something that involves rather less new build to save money. Unless they have found something that renders the previous scheme undeliverable I think I'd be pretty fed up if I was a local resident hoping for a nice new tram service in my local area. EDIT - looks like that newspaper article has got things a bit mangled. Ian Visits has a more coherent report. The original tram proposal seems to remain the preferred choice thankfully. www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2018/09/10/london-underground-extension-ruled-out-in-favour-of-more-trams/I would have thought a circular route from Wimbledon leaving the current alignment at Morden Road and running on street via Morden and St Helier Hospital to Sutton then via Morden South back to Sutton would be ideal?
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Post by snoggle on Sept 10, 2018 13:22:42 GMT
I agree that it might. However this is a new proposal that has not been assessed or evaluated before. The last few years have seen a different scheme developed in terms of engineering assessments, feasibility, business case etc. To completely change the base proposal means doing all this work again which means more delays. Obviously we must wait to see what the consultation actually says but this looks like TfL running scared from the previous idea due to the cost and, instead, opting for something that involves rather less new build to save money. Unless they have found something that renders the previous scheme undeliverable I think I'd be pretty fed up if I was a local resident hoping for a nice new tram service in my local area. EDIT - looks like that newspaper article has got things a bit mangled. Ian Visits has a more coherent report. The original tram proposal seems to remain the preferred choice thankfully. www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2018/09/10/london-underground-extension-ruled-out-in-favour-of-more-trams/I would have thought a circular route from Wimbledon leaving the current alignment at Morden Road and running on street via Morden and St Helier Hospital to Sutton then via Morden South back to Sutton would be ideal? It depends on what you want to achieve. All the focus to date has been on a broad N-S link from South Wimbledon to Sutton with a possible extension southwards to Belmont. The introduction of the Thameslink loop idea is rather "off piste" really and seems fanciful to me. I know the loop is not massively used but that's probably indicative of both the poor service *and* the fact it doesn't link major journey generators to places people want to go locally. The tram proposal looks to me to be designed to provide a "backbone" through the middle of the Sutton and Rose Hill area and buses could link a lot of areas into it with relative ease. Let's see what the consultation says.
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Post by sid on Oct 29, 2018 9:53:34 GMT
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Post by ADH45258 on Nov 2, 2018 22:28:27 GMT
What are the tram allocations of the two vehicle types between the various tram routes?
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Post by sid on Nov 9, 2018 11:31:07 GMT
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Post by galwhv69 on Jan 1, 2019 16:15:29 GMT
Lineside fire at Ampere Lane *Tram Replacement Buses* arranged between Church Street & Mitcham Junction as that section of the line is suspended. *TRB* avoiding Ampere Lane tram stop
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Post by YY13VKP on Jan 1, 2019 16:25:35 GMT
Lineside fire at Ampere Lane *Tram Replacement Buses* arranged between Church Street & Mitcham Junction as that section of the line is suspended. *TRB* avoiding Ampere Lane tram stop The Shurgard storage centre in Purley Way had a massive fire last night, completely destroying it.
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Post by SILENCED on Jan 1, 2019 16:39:24 GMT
Lineside fire at Ampere Lane *Tram Replacement Buses* arranged between Church Street & Mitcham Junction as that section of the line is suspended. *TRB* avoiding Ampere Lane tram stop The Shurgard storage centre in Purley Way had a massive fire last night, completely destroying it. I dont see how that event can be affecting trams?
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Post by sid on Jan 1, 2019 17:15:59 GMT
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jan 1, 2019 23:37:25 GMT
The Shurgard storage centre in Purley Way had a massive fire last night, completely destroying it. I dont see how that event can be affecting trams? if the structure on fire is next to the tracks they would be closed- particularly as heat from the fire could damage the rails and OHL. Similarly if there are gas canisters in the building an exclusion zone will be set up, which may include the tram lines
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Post by vjaska on Jan 2, 2019 0:07:55 GMT
I dont see how that event can be affecting trams? if the structure on fire is next to the tracks they would be closed- particularly as heat from the fire could damage the rails and OHL. Similarly if there are gas canisters in the building an exclusion zone will be set up, which may include the tram lines Indeed, better to be safe than sorry
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Post by snowman on Jan 2, 2019 6:57:39 GMT
TfL website now showing no trams on that section until 5th or 6th January due to unstable building following the fire
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Post by MoEnviro on Jan 2, 2019 8:45:44 GMT
Lineside fire at Ampere Lane *Tram Replacement Buses* arranged between Church Street & Mitcham Junction as that section of the line is suspended. *TRB* avoiding Ampere Lane tram stop I assume it’s being run by Ensignbus as an emergency rail replacement?
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