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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2019 9:34:37 GMT
Good to see RATP putting the running time back in that they took out from their tender win schedule.
Reminds me of Abellio paying for an additional 427 bus having taking the resource out for their tender win.
And Metroline with the 120 😉 They did?! I'm only aware of the Southall roadworks contingency schedule.
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Post by dennistas on Jan 19, 2019 8:43:13 GMT
I am actually suprised that a decision is still to be made about the Central London bus cuts.
Not too sure about most of the routes in the consultation but with the 48 - it seems that TFL are reviewing their decision.
Keen to see what happens!
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Post by ronnie on Jan 19, 2019 9:46:44 GMT
I am actually suprised that a decision is still to be made about the Central London bus cuts. Not too sure about most of the routes in the consultation but with the 48 - it seems that TFL are reviewing their decision. Keen to see what happens! Reviewing as in having second thoughts about withdrawing the 48? That would be sensible. Would rather merge the 26 and 388
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Post by dennistas on Jan 19, 2019 9:50:38 GMT
I am actually suprised that a decision is still to be made about the Central London bus cuts. Not too sure about most of the routes in the consultation but with the 48 - it seems that TFL are reviewing their decision. Keen to see what happens! Reviewing as in having second thoughts about withdrawing the 48? That would be sensible. Would rather merge the 26 and 388 I bet that they will still go ahead and withdraw it though 😕
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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 19, 2019 21:51:37 GMT
It's a bit radical but what about restructuring the 48 to run from Victoria to Bakers Arms. It would replace route 11 to Liverpool Street. The 55 would still be extended to Walthamstow and the 311 would remain as the 11 but be diverted to Oxo. Reason for this is I'm in no doubt there is probably some excess capacity between Liverpool Street and London Bridge now but I doubt the 55 and 56 can cope along along Lea Bridge Road.
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Post by busaholic on Jan 19, 2019 22:51:46 GMT
It's a bit radical but what about restructuring the 48 to run from Victoria to Bakers Arms. It would replace route 11 to Liverpool Street. The 55 would still be extended to Walthamstow and the 311 would remain as the 11 but be diverted to Oxo. Reason for this is I'm in no doubt there is probably some excess capacity between Liverpool Street and London Bridge now but I doubt the 55 and 56 can cope along along Lea Bridge Road. Or 48 to Waterloo and 26 to Victoria?
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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 19, 2019 22:54:45 GMT
Could work. Either way I think the 48 can easily be diverted away from London bridge so may as well send it somewhere else.
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Post by snoggle on Jan 19, 2019 23:51:47 GMT
It's a bit radical but what about restructuring the 48 to run from Victoria to Bakers Arms. It would replace route 11 to Liverpool Street. The 55 would still be extended to Walthamstow and the 311 would remain as the 11 but be diverted to Oxo. Reason for this is I'm in no doubt there is probably some excess capacity between Liverpool Street and London Bridge now but I doubt the 55 and 56 can cope along along Lea Bridge Road. That doesn't achieve a cut though. It'd probably be horrendous to run given how slow the 11 is now scheduled to run. Any disruption would result in a loss of service either in Zone 1 or buses being turned at Clapton. I'll be astonished if TfL change their mind about the 48. Although they'd never admit it there is almost certainly a hidden caché for the "new breed" at TfL Buses to be seen to be axeing an entire route. "Ooh look we're not afraid to take difficult decisions. Aren't we wonderful?"
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Post by vjaska on Jan 19, 2019 23:54:11 GMT
It's a bit radical but what about restructuring the 48 to run from Victoria to Bakers Arms. It would replace route 11 to Liverpool Street. The 55 would still be extended to Walthamstow and the 311 would remain as the 11 but be diverted to Oxo. Reason for this is I'm in no doubt there is probably some excess capacity between Liverpool Street and London Bridge now but I doubt the 55 and 56 can cope along along Lea Bridge Road. Or 48 to Waterloo and 26 to Victoria? Personally, that's more workable than the 48 running from Victoria as it can take ages just to get from Liverpool Street to Victoria on the current 11. That said, I'd rather it'll be left alone but as an alternative to cutting the 48, your idea sounds decent
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Post by ronnie on Jan 20, 2019 0:16:55 GMT
It's a bit radical but what about restructuring the 48 to run from Victoria to Bakers Arms. It would replace route 11 to Liverpool Street. The 55 would still be extended to Walthamstow and the 311 would remain as the 11 but be diverted to Oxo. Reason for this is I'm in no doubt there is probably some excess capacity between Liverpool Street and London Bridge now but I doubt the 55 and 56 can cope along along Lea Bridge Road. Wouldn’t that be too long? Likely to take well over 2 hours
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Post by redbus on Jan 20, 2019 0:23:20 GMT
Or 48 to Waterloo and 26 to Victoria? Personally, that's more workable than the 48 running from Victoria as it can take ages just to get from Liverpool Street to Victoria on the current 11. That said, I'd rather it'll be left alone but as an alternative to cutting the 48, your idea sounds decent Surely if TfL do something completely different with the 48 to either what the route is today or what they propose (ie axing), they would need to consult again?
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Post by snoggle on Jan 20, 2019 0:33:10 GMT
Personally, that's more workable than the 48 running from Victoria as it can take ages just to get from Liverpool Street to Victoria on the current 11. That said, I'd rather it'll be left alone but as an alternative to cutting the 48, your idea sounds decent Surely if TfL do something completely different with the 48 to either what the route is today or what they propose (ie axing), they would need to consult again? Don't count on it. I am expecting to see some "sleight of hand" go on with some of these consultations. Note how that consultations that took place 18 months ago when things were different or planned to be different were used as justification for still doing the 10/23 change when any rational transport organisation would have stopped the changes because circumstances were vastly different. Note also the mess with route 3 which has been curtailed at T Square without consultation and the plan for the Russell Square extension dropped without subsequent consultation. This is one of the aspects of what TfL do that most enrages me as they are appallingly inconsistent in how they apply the rules / adhere to their decisions. Their actions betray their real feelings - they'd rather not consult at all. All that bothersome cost and all those dreadful people who think they know better than TfL do. I suspect the Commissioner, who resembles Scrooge more and more each time he speaks in public, would love to bin the entire process and sack all the staff involved in it.
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Post by lazy_eye_metaphor on Jan 20, 2019 14:07:16 GMT
Looks like the curtailment of the 428, once said to commence 26 January, has been deferred to September.
Source: Londonbusroutes.net
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Post by vjaska on Jan 20, 2019 14:30:01 GMT
Looks like the curtailment of the 428, once said to commence 26 January, has been deferred to September. Source: Londonbusroutes.net As has the double decker conversion - shame the curtailment can't be permanently dropped and just convert the route to double decker.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 20, 2019 15:40:42 GMT
With an 8 min service on the 96 calling at the hospital and Bluewater I think that stretch will cope without the 428.
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