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Post by rj131 on Jun 20, 2019 22:10:49 GMT
I wonder where the extra 66’s will come from. Maybe some of the left over DWs from the 144 (the 301 only needs 11 and the 144 has 18, which are all being replaced by HVs), and can use some of the redundant DT smartblinds without the 301 on them, as I believe they have 66? capitalomnibus posted a few pages back no extra buses will be needed - its just a schedule change, Ah okay, wow the current 66 timetable must be pretty loose then 😳
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 21, 2019 6:33:50 GMT
capitalomnibus posted a few pages back no extra buses will be needed - its just a schedule change, Ah okay, wow the current 66 timetable must be pretty loose then 😳 Currently runs every 12 mins with two AM / PM GY 71 & 72 peak buses, probably what may end up happening is one or both may stay out all day to allow the service to run every 10 minutes.
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 21, 2019 10:03:00 GMT
capitalomnibus posted a few pages back no extra buses will be needed - its just a schedule change, Ah okay, wow the current 66 timetable must be pretty loose then 😳 Pretty sure they are just utilising the 2 buses that go back to the garage between peaks.
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Post by enviro101 on Jun 22, 2019 12:20:34 GMT
Enl 104 seen on 166x??
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 22, 2019 12:26:25 GMT
Discussed elsewhere, weekend extras between Purley and Banstead for the Summer period, due to the number of visitors to Mayfield Lavender Farm near Woodmansterne whilst the lavender is in bloom. They duplicate selected journeys and will operate until 1st September.
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Post by enviro101 on Jun 22, 2019 12:36:23 GMT
Discussed elsewhere, weekend extras between Purley and Banstead for the Summer period, due to the number of visitors to Mayfield Lavender Farm near Woodmansterne whilst the lavender is in bloom. They duplicate selected journeys and will operate until 1st September. yeah I know as I'm the one who started the original post but didn't know it started today or whey would call it 166x
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Post by ibus246 on Jun 22, 2019 14:11:37 GMT
Discussed elsewhere, weekend extras between Purley and Banstead for the Summer period, due to the number of visitors to Mayfield Lavender Farm near Woodmansterne whilst the lavender is in bloom. They duplicate selected journeys and will operate until 1st September. yeah I know as I'm the one who started the original post but didn't know it started today or whey would call it 166x It will be blinded etc as the 166 but internally will be known as the 166X
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 26, 2019 16:23:57 GMT
I wonder where the extra 66’s will come from. Maybe some of the left over DWs from the 144 (the 301 only needs 11 and the 144 has 18, which are all being replaced by HVs), and can use some of the redundant DT smartblinds without the 301 on them, as I believe they have 66? capitalomnibus posted a few pages back no extra buses will be needed - its just a schedule change, It appears this is going ahead, bit of a waste, especially as the schedule was change 3 weeks ago. TfL = waste of time and money!!!!
It would now also appear that the 254 would be getting a pvr cut in a few months time with the possibility also on the 253.
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Post by rif153 on Jun 26, 2019 21:04:59 GMT
capitalomnibus posted a few pages back no extra buses will be needed - its just a schedule change, It appears this is going ahead, bit of a waste, especially as the schedule was change 3 weeks ago. TfL = waste of time and money!!!!
It would now also appear that the 254 would be getting a pvr cut in a few months time with the possibility also on the 253.
That's a crazy decision when the 254 is so well used. I think the rationale behind the PVR cut is because of the duplication between the 106 and 254 but the 254 is by far the busier of the two and does not deserve a PVR cut
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Post by snoggle on Jun 26, 2019 21:14:30 GMT
It appears this is going ahead, bit of a waste, especially as the schedule was change 3 weeks ago. TfL = waste of time and money!!!!
It would now also appear that the 254 would be getting a pvr cut in a few months time with the possibility also on the 253.
That's a crazy decision when the 254 is so well used. I think the rationale behind the PVR cut is because of the duplication between the 106 and 254 but the 254 is by far the busier of the two and does not deserve a PVR cut I can't comment on its busy-ness these days. I do think there is a bit of a TfL policy to progressively push down the frequencies of high frequency routes. The 12 is the most recent example but a lot of other high PVR, high frequency routes are seeing similar cuts. This seems, to me anyway, to sit alongside the policy of flattening frequencies across days of the week / operating day so there is very little difference in service levels between peak, off peak, weekdays and weekends. The 388 now effectively has the same service level every day.
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Post by busaholic on Jun 26, 2019 23:04:28 GMT
That's a crazy decision when the 254 is so well used. I think the rationale behind the PVR cut is because of the duplication between the 106 and 254 but the 254 is by far the busier of the two and does not deserve a PVR cut I can't comment on its busy-ness these days. I do think there is a bit of a TfL policy to progressively push down the frequencies of high frequency routtryinges. The 12 is the most recent example but a lot of other high PVR, high frequency routes are seeing similar cuts. This seems, to me anyway, to sit alongside the policy of flattening frequencies across days of the week / operating day so there is very little difference in service levels between peak, off peak, weekdays and weekends. The 388 now effectively has the same service level every day. 'One size fits all' is an axiom I've never believed and, in TfL's hands, it could lead to further spirals of decline in bus use. If you start cutting frequencies of well-used routes willy nilly, after a short period when some may just be prepared to allow a full bus or two to go by, many will vote with their feet, not necessarily on to other bus routes or even TfL services, but that'll be okay because the number crunchers can turn round and say ''see, we were right all along.'' It is hard and dispiriting trying to counter such negativity, which it is. There'll be no need for timetables, it'll be almost every route running one of two patterns e.g. pattern one, 10 minute weekday daytime frequency, 12 minutes evenings and Sundays. Then there'll be no need for anyone at TfL to have any experience of operating buses or, indeed, of ever travelling on one. A dystopian future, but quite likely imo.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 27, 2019 9:09:46 GMT
It appears this is going ahead, bit of a waste, especially as the schedule was change 3 weeks ago. TfL = waste of time and money!!!!
It would now also appear that the 254 would be getting a pvr cut in a few months time with the possibility also on the 253.
That's a crazy decision when the 254 is so well used. I think the rationale behind the PVR cut is because of the duplication between the 106 and 254 but the 254 is by far the busier of the two and does not deserve a PVR cut Trouble is during the day on many routes, the headway should be slashed, but it maintains the same headway throughout the day and this is the problem. Then you get people saying empty buses on Oxford St etc. Many trains has frequency's reduced during the daytime when it is not heavily used. The 254 is still busy during the peaks, but after 9 am it drops until near 3pm. During this time it could effectively run an 8 min service. 2 buses do come off the road, currently during the day, but the same headway is maintained.
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Post by redbus on Jun 27, 2019 15:45:54 GMT
I received the weekly weekend travel information e-mail from TfL today. Apparently starting July 4th cycle highway 4 will be built and this will impact Tooley Street. All buses using Tooley Street might suffer delays and that includes the RV1 !!!!! Didn't know TfL were restarting the RV1 service!!!! hehe
Seriously TfL do need to get communications like this accurate.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 27, 2019 15:49:35 GMT
I received the weekly weekend travel information e-mail from TfL today. Apparently starting July 4th cycle highway 4 will be built and this will impact Tooley Street. All buses using Tooley Street might suffer delays and that includes the RV1 !!!!! Didn't know TfL were restarting the RV1 service!!!! hehe
Seriously TfL do need to get communications like this accurate. Apparently there are also two 381s affected Here's a snapshot for those not fortunate enough to receive the comedy newsletter
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Post by Ice Prxnce on Jun 27, 2019 21:58:51 GMT
The proposal for Jamaica Road looks quite disastrous. It’s already a struggle to get through on a weekday because of all the traffic leading up to the tunnel and reducing the road space is going to make things ten times worse. The eastbound bus gate is a good idea, bus drivers literally to have play savage and fight their way through all the car/van/Uber drivers who refuse to give way during the peak hours. As for the Deptford butchering and Lower Road one-way system removal next year, I’m not even going to bother ranting on that just yet.
If the Thames Path wasn’t so inconsistent between Greenwich and Tower Bridge, I would rather cyclists use that rather than road spaces being reduced. The path is generally more safer, less polluted and more spacious.
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