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Post by Hassaan on Nov 4, 2019 11:58:41 GMT
Which "knackered, sluggish SPs"? The 59-reg onwards ones have always been programmed with lower acceleration since brand new and have been in service for up to 10 years now, so everyone should be well used to them (except SP40165 which is programmed differently). And except SP40113 they're also refurbished within the last 5½ years so the seat padding is still good on them. If you're talking about the ones up to 09-reg, they have standard acceleration (ignoring individual poor buses) and if they still feel slow then I'm afraid that expectations need to be changed as you can't expect a standard bus to have supercar acceleration. For the interiors I know many of the 08-reg ones have needed TLC for ages but the 58-reg and 09-reg are refurbished. Top speeds for most SPs are around 40mph which again is normal across London operators, although there are a lucky few that can manage to go to higher speeds. Also remember that SPs make up over 40% of the double deck fleet, so there is a good chance that someone is going to get a SP for private hire. The big windows make them excellent for that purpose as well. SPs now only 31% of RATP double deck fleet I think there are 162 remaining SPs out of about 523 double decks Approx 80 ADE, 97 ADH, 178 VH, 6 VHR Probably few more SPs will go once the new electric deckers enter service Thank you for the correction there, had forgotten there were over 20 MMCs. Also a lot of LTs currently although number to significantly reduce this weekend!
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Post by snowman on Nov 4, 2019 12:14:03 GMT
SPs now only 31% of RATP double deck fleet I think there are 162 remaining SPs out of about 523 double decks Approx 80 ADE, 97 ADH, 178 VH, 6 VHR Probably few more SPs will go once the new electric deckers enter service Thank you for the correction there, had forgotten there were over 20 MMCs. Also a lot of LTs currently although number to significantly reduce this weekend! And I had forgotten the LTs (although could be deemed TfL fleet)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2019 12:29:40 GMT
SPs now only 31% of RATP double deck fleet I think there are 162 remaining SPs out of about 523 double decks Approx 80 ADE, 97 ADH, 178 VH, 6 VHR Probably few more SPs will go once the new electric deckers enter service Thank you for the correction there, had forgotten there were over 20 MMCs. Also a lot of LTs currently although number to significantly reduce this weekend! Shame to see LT1000 go. Still hoping they keep it somehow.
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Post by rif153 on Nov 5, 2019 19:06:52 GMT
Thank you for the correction there, had forgotten there were over 20 MMCs. Also a lot of LTs currently although number to significantly reduce this weekend! Shame to see LT1000 go. Still hoping they keep it somehow. Knowing how unreliable those LTs are, if it breaks down between now and Friday RATP won't be sending a bus that isn't roadworthy to TF
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Post by vjaska on Nov 5, 2019 19:40:47 GMT
Shame to see LT1000 go. Still hoping they keep it somehow. Knowing how unreliable those LTs are, if it breaks down between now and Friday RATP won't be sending a bus that isn't roadworthy to TF I’ve seen no definitive evidence that this batch is unreliable.
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Post by rif153 on Nov 5, 2019 19:43:44 GMT
Knowing how unreliable those LTs are, if it breaks down between now and Friday RATP won't be sending a bus that isn't roadworthy to TF I’ve seen no definitive evidence that this batch is unreliable. What's your explanation for buses spending long amounts of time off the road, and SPs/VHs often running on the 267 then?
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Post by vjaska on Nov 5, 2019 19:49:50 GMT
I’ve seen no definitive evidence that this batch is unreliable. What's your explanation for buses spending long amounts of time off the road, and SPs/VHs often running on the 267 then? Very few have spent long spells off the road especially compared to older batches which are unreliable. I don’t work for RATP so can’t comment why SP’s appear regularly but it equally doesn’t automatically mean it’s because they’re unreliable.
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Post by snowman on Nov 5, 2019 19:57:52 GMT
I’ve seen no definitive evidence that this batch is unreliable. What's your explanation for buses spending long amounts of time off the road, and SPs/VHs often running on the 267 then? There was 2 SPs on 267 yesterday, and another SP today Looks like 7 of RATP’s LT haven’t been used in November (LT 82, 83, 121, 124, 149, 671, 673) Wonder if it will send back the 211 batch as part of the transfer for 27 On the bright side, I suppose FW won’t need to keep as many spare SPs from Saturday once 267 goes
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Post by rif153 on Nov 5, 2019 20:07:46 GMT
What's your explanation for buses spending long amounts of time off the road, and SPs/VHs often running on the 267 then? There was 2 SPs on 267 yesterday, and another SP today Looks like 7 of RATP’s LT haven’t been used in November (LT 82, 83, 121, 124, 149, 671, 673) Wonder if it will send back the 211 batch as part of the transfer for 27 On the bright side, I suppose FW won’t need to keep as many spare SPs from Saturday once 267 goes I would prefer the 211's batch to leave (plus some buses from the LT1** series to top the allocation up) than indigenous RATP LTs, upcoming changes thread suggests LT151-171/174 are going to Abellio so maybe there's no sentimental value in their indigenous LTs for RATP .
The surplus SPs at FW, plus those released from the 19-reg VHs should have gone to FW for the 285 to release VHs for the 306 rather than this fudge of a PVR cut for the 18.
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Post by snowman on Nov 6, 2019 6:02:58 GMT
New LSP is now published Mainly minor changes, but some changes to Oxford Tube service, and some First services (from Maidenhead area) at Heathrow content.tfl.gov.uk/lsp-bulletin.pdf
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Post by Gary on Nov 6, 2019 6:38:42 GMT
New LSP is now published Mainly minor changes, but some changes to Oxford Tube service, and some First services (from Maidenhead area) at Heathrow content.tfl.gov.uk/lsp-bulletin.pdfDisappointed to see that most 7s will now terminate at T5. Was the only route between T5 and Heathrow CBS.
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Post by wirewiper on Nov 6, 2019 9:40:08 GMT
New LSP is now published Mainly minor changes, but some changes to Oxford Tube service, and some First services (from Maidenhead area) at Heathrow content.tfl.gov.uk/lsp-bulletin.pdfI see that Oxford Tube is cashing in on the withdrawal of the X90 by increasing frequency and adding new stops at Marylebone and White City. Also interesting that Carousel are having another go at serving Heathrow from High Wycombe and Beaconsfield again.
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Post by wirewiper on Nov 6, 2019 10:15:41 GMT
New LSP is now published Mainly minor changes, but some changes to Oxford Tube service, and some First services (from Maidenhead area) at Heathrow content.tfl.gov.uk/lsp-bulletin.pdfDisappointed to see that most 7s will now terminate at T5. Was the only route between T5 and Heathrow CBS. The newly-extended 4 will continue to link Slough and Heathrow Central Bus Station, but only at a 30-minute frequency and not operating via Terminal 5. To sum up: from 11th January - Route 4 will operate between Maidenhead, Slough and Heathrow Central Bus Station. Frequency up to every 30 minutes. Route 7 will operate between Britwell, Slough, Langley and Heathrow Terminal 5 with early morning and late evening journeys extended to/from Heathrow Central Bus Station. Frequency up to every 15 minutes. Route 9 will no longer operate.
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Post by snowman on Nov 6, 2019 21:45:05 GMT
Just over 48 hours to go and one of the busiest Operator changes for months
24 Metroline (Holloway) to Abellio (Battersea) using existing LT 27 and N27 RATP (Stamford Brook) to Abellio (Battersea) using existing LT 34 Metroline (Potters Bar) to Arriva (Palmers Green) Ex Stagecoach 130xx 192 GoAhead (Northumberland Park) to Arriva (Enfield) with new ENN class E200MMCs 267 RATP (Fulwell) to Abellio (Twickenham-Fulwell) using existing LT
Also new contract on 102 Arriva (Palmers Green) hybrids replace T class E400
So busy weekend of extra work for Abellio
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Post by londonboy71 on Nov 7, 2019 15:06:33 GMT
What's your explanation for buses spending long amounts of time off the road, and SPs/VHs often running on the 267 then? There was 2 SPs on 267 yesterday, and another SP today Looks like 7 of RATP’s LT haven’t been used in November (LT 82, 83, 121, 124, 149, 671, 673) Wonder if it will send back the 211 batch as part of the transfer for 27 On the bright side, I suppose FW won’t need to keep as many spare SPs from Saturday once 267 goes What's SP? MMC?
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