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Post by snowman on Nov 21, 2019 6:29:07 GMT
More info here: Loses about 40% of its length (Hammersmith-Sands End), replaced by new double deck 306 Frequency changes from every 12 mins to every 20 mins (5 per hour to 3 per hour) Current PVR 16 x (1-40%) x 3/5 = 6 Current allocation 16 new + 2 old DLE, so probably releasing 11 DLEs The 391 will only be every 20 minutes in the evenings. Daytime frequency to be every 15 minutes. TfL are saying daytime every 20 minutes, evenings every 30 minutes tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/permanent-bus-changes#on-this-page-17So somebody is wrong. Based on TfLs info looks like PVR cut of 10, and TVR 18 to 7 releasing 11 buses
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2019 6:41:48 GMT
The 391 will only be every 20 minutes in the evenings. Daytime frequency to be every 15 minutes. TfL are saying daytime every 20 minutes, evenings every 30 minutes tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/permanent-bus-changes#on-this-page-17So somebody is wrong. Based on TfLs info looks like PVR cut of 10, and TVR 18 to 7 releasing 11 buses A cut to x30 mins evenings and Sundays should be a warning of things to come for some other routes. It will no longer be a turn up and go route.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2019 6:45:57 GMT
When does the 427 get cut ? I ask because how will both the 266 and 427 fit at the Acton Old Town Hall stand ?
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Post by rif153 on Nov 21, 2019 8:05:59 GMT
When does the 427 get cut ? I ask because how will both the 266 and 427 fit at the Acton Old Town Hall stand ? Its really up in the air with the 427 cut. It doesn't add up that Abellio have ordered new Smarts for the 278, as if the 427 cutback were going ahead then buses released from the 427 could be used on the 278. However, its an interesting question you raise about the Acton Old Town Hall stand, I've never seen more than three buses on it, and I believe it can fit three buses. but there's also another stand round the corner which can take a bus, so overall, if both routes have two buses on the stand at any time, then it should be fine, unless there are issues of the stand overflowing.
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Post by kmkcheng on Nov 21, 2019 8:37:11 GMT
Where will the 224 stand when it’s cut back to Alperton? The current stand has a habit of overflowing with the current 79 and 245.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2019 9:17:23 GMT
Where will the 224 stand when it’s cut back to Alperton? The current stand has a habit of overflowing with the current 79 and 245. The 245 buses often drive away for change overs but you're quite right. I've alighted 79's someway down the street because the stand is full.
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Post by 6HP502C on Nov 21, 2019 10:50:22 GMT
The 391 will only be every 20 minutes in the evenings. Daytime frequency to be every 15 minutes. TfL are saying daytime every 20 minutes, evenings every 30 minutes tfl.gov.uk/modes/buses/permanent-bus-changes#on-this-page-17So somebody is wrong. Based on TfLs info looks like PVR cut of 10, and TVR 18 to 7 releasing 11 buses Check again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2019 10:54:27 GMT
Where will the 224 stand when it’s cut back to Alperton? The current stand has a habit of overflowing with the current 79 and 245. It will stand at Stop H, where it will start and finish
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Post by snowman on Nov 21, 2019 10:58:23 GMT
Did you change it? now every 15 mins daytime, every 30 mins evenings and all day Sunday
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Post by bottomless on Nov 21, 2019 11:16:14 GMT
Believe route 266 going to Acton Vale so standing at Bromyard Avenue Stand, meaning no problem at Acton Town Hall.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Nov 21, 2019 11:21:21 GMT
Believe route 266 going to Acton Vale so standing at Bromyard Avenue Stand, meaning no problem at Acton Town Hall. The 266 won't reach Acton Vale, the 306 will be using the Bromyard Avenue stand and the 266 will be standing with the 427.
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Post by rj131 on Nov 21, 2019 11:37:26 GMT
Did you change it? now every 15 mins daytime, every 30 mins evenings and all day Sunday I can back snowman up saying it *definitely* said 20 minutes daytime rather than 15 on the website. It obviously was a mistake that’s now been rectified
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Post by busman on Nov 21, 2019 12:24:01 GMT
CSOPP meeting papers per pack page 119 (numbered page 101) Bus service proposals • Route 92 – rerouting to serve new housing development I wonder when the consultation for the rerouting of the 92 going to be released? And will there be a replacement for the lost section. I suspect rerouting can be done without any need for a replacement if the 92 is diverted after the Clare Road stop via Berkeley Avenue (the old GSK entrance) emerging onto Greenford Road. I would think that new stops would be in the new Greystar development with a pair of new stops on Greenford Road adjacent to stops that will no longer be served (Oldfield Close).
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Post by busman on Nov 21, 2019 12:25:58 GMT
Did you change it? now every 15 mins daytime, every 30 mins evenings and all day Sunday I can back snowman up saying it *definitely* said 20 minutes daytime rather than 15 on the website. It obviously was a mistake that’s now been rectified I saw 20 minutes and questioned it at the time. Good to see every 15 minutes. Not sure about every 30 minutes in the evening though. I don’t envy local passengers on that route.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2019 12:36:03 GMT
I wonder when the consultation for the rerouting of the 92 going to be released? And will there be a replacement for the lost section. I suspect rerouting can be done without any need for a replacement if the 92 is diverted after the Clare Road stop via Berkeley Avenue (the old GSK entrance) emerging onto Greenford Road. I would think that new stops would be in the new Greystar development with a pair of new stops on Greenford Road adjacent to stops that will no longer be served (Oldfield Close). The 395 should be able to cope along Oldfield Lane North as its only like 1 or 2 stops to Greenford Station, so therefore won't need any replacement
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