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Post by COBO on Jan 17, 2020 0:22:00 GMT
Maybe the 427 will be retained to Acton and the 207 is cut to Ealing Hospital instead. So effectively from Hayes By Pass and Southall there would be the 427 to Ealing and Acton and the 607 would maintain the Shepherds Bush link. That way they can reduce there being 2 routes between Hayes BP and Ealing Hospital to reduce costs. Is the 207 well used beyond Ealing Hospital to Hayes? It is.
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Post by 6HP502C on Jan 17, 2020 2:20:54 GMT
There's no ulterior motive. I worked at GW once and the accessibility to public transport from that area needs improving. Even when I got to Windmill Park, it was still a fair walk to a bus stop once on the Uxbridge Road, especially towards Ealing. Some residents in that estate will be relying on taxis and lifts to get out and about as is the case in a few somewhat isolated housing estates. The proposal will be an improvement for accessibility to the bus network. With all due respect, the residents on the estate are not isolated. That’s absolute nonsense. I know as I have friends and family that have lived there since the days of the Perivale to Windmill Park E4! Workers at Noon and the retail park/industrial estate will certainly benefit. But it hardly seems worth it if it means the 483 will be pulled from Ealing Hospital grounds. It should continue to serve the hospital in both directions if extended. Not all of the estate is within 400 metres of a bus stop - I've checked on a map. A bus service on Windmill Lane will rectify that. Going by what the consultation says, it's by no means the sole reason for proposing the change and there are benefits for others as mentioned. Speaking of the 483 extension to Ealing Hospital this means the N83 will remain terminating at Ealing, surprised just over a year on and TFL haven't come to a conclusion yet? They did say it would only go ahead if a there is a suitable place to install a toilet facility for drivers On my walk back from GW in the dead of night I did notice there was a driver toilet installed in a very uncontroverisal position among the foliage on Windmill Lane. Quite a few tree branches had grown halfway across the door.
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Post by rif153 on Jan 17, 2020 7:39:14 GMT
Maybe the 427 will be retained to Acton and the 207 is cut to Ealing Hospital instead. So effectively from Hayes By Pass and Southall there would be the 427 to Ealing and Acton and the 607 would maintain the Shepherds Bush link. That way they can reduce there being 2 routes between Hayes BP and Ealing Hospital to reduce costs. Is the 207 well used beyond Ealing Hospital to Hayes? Yes there is still ample demand for travel to Southall. Naturally, there is less demand west of Southall on the route but that's because the 427 is more useful to many when heading west from Southall.
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Post by rj131 on Jan 17, 2020 7:45:30 GMT
Is the 207 well used beyond Ealing Hospital to Hayes? Yes there is still ample demand for travel to Southall. Naturally, there is less demand west of Southall on the route but that's because the 427 is more useful to many when heading west from Southall. Would you say then if one route of the two had to be curtailed to Southall, the 207 would be the better option rather than the 427?
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Post by kmkcheng on Jan 17, 2020 8:01:03 GMT
Yes there is still ample demand for travel to Southall. Naturally, there is less demand west of Southall on the route but that's because the 427 is more useful to many when heading west from Southall. Would you say then if one route of the two had to be curtailed to Southall, the 207 would be the better option rather than the 427? The aim is to connect areas along Uxbridge road west of Southall with cross rail as those areas are not well served by trains which is why the 427 was picked.
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Post by rif153 on Jan 17, 2020 11:00:03 GMT
Yes there is still ample demand for travel to Southall. Naturally, there is less demand west of Southall on the route but that's because the 427 is more useful to many when heading west from Southall. Would you say then if one route of the two had to be curtailed to Southall, the 207 would be the better option rather than the 427? If the choice is withdrawing the 207 between Hayes-by-Pass and Southall Broadway or withdrawing the 427 between Southall Broadway and Acton High Street then I would pick the former option in a heartbeat. That is NOT the same as saying that it should occur.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jan 17, 2020 11:19:57 GMT
I still can't see how the 207 can cope between Acton and Southall on its own. That's why I stated to thing that maybe the 427 could cope between Hayes BP and Ealing Hospital as people are more likely to use the 607 on that section for longer journeys to Ealing, Acton and Shepherds Bush.
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Post by londonboy71 on Jan 17, 2020 16:12:02 GMT
What about 607? Always very full but empties out at Southall from Ealing Bdwy. How about Ealing Hospital Windmill Lane Tentelow Lane Norwood Green Southall Stn Ealing Hospital. Nice circular route.
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Post by busman on Jan 17, 2020 17:02:24 GMT
What about 607? Always very full but empties out at Southall from Ealing Bdwy. How about Ealing Hospital Windmill Lane Tentelow Lane Norwood Green Southall Stn Ealing Hospital. Nice circular route. Not possible because of this thing: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Bridges,_London
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Post by COBO on Jan 17, 2020 17:20:16 GMT
What about 607? Always very full but empties out at Southall from Ealing Bdwy. How about Ealing Hospital Windmill Lane Tentelow Lane Norwood Green Southall Stn Ealing Hospital. Nice circular route. Will this route be going across the bridge on Windmill Lane?
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Post by vjaska on Jan 17, 2020 18:17:07 GMT
What about 607? Always very full but empties out at Southall from Ealing Bdwy. How about Ealing Hospital Windmill Lane Tentelow Lane Norwood Green Southall Stn Ealing Hospital. Nice circular route. Not possible because of this thing: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Bridges,_London Not only that but is it suggested as turning the 607 into a circular route which would be far from ideal or a new route running as a circular route?
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Post by busaholic on Jan 17, 2020 18:32:25 GMT
What about 607? Always very full but empties out at Southall from Ealing Bdwy. How about Ealing Hospital Windmill Lane Tentelow Lane Norwood Green Southall Stn Ealing Hospital. Nice circular route. What's this got to do with an Uxbridge to Shepherds Bush express route?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2020 18:44:22 GMT
I'm not sure if the DELs for the 324 will get round the grounds? It would be a stretch but they might just be able to do it - as the main road through the grounds is virtually straight. I know that the Aspire Leisure Centre wanted to replace its current minibus service from Stanmore Station, and it would make complete sense if they did this by utilising the 324 (Which would come from Stanmore too). The 324 won't be going into the hospital/leisure centre grounds, it will travel from Stanmore Station to Canons Corner, up Brockley Hill and terminate at Centennial Park. The consultation is going to be released shortly I believe.
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Post by danorak on Jan 18, 2020 12:25:51 GMT
It would be a stretch but they might just be able to do it - as the main road through the grounds is virtually straight. I know that the Aspire Leisure Centre wanted to replace its current minibus service from Stanmore Station, and it would make complete sense if they did this by utilising the 324 (Which would come from Stanmore too). The 324 won't be going into the hospital/leisure centre grounds, it will travel from Stanmore Station to Canons Corner, up Brockley Hill and terminate at Centennial Park. The consultation is going to be released shortly I believe. An extension to Centennial Park would return London buses to the site of the famous Aldenham Bus Overhaul Works.
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Post by kmkcheng on Jan 18, 2020 12:49:58 GMT
The 324 won't be going into the hospital/leisure centre grounds, it will travel from Stanmore Station to Canons Corner, up Brockley Hill and terminate at Centennial Park. The consultation is going to be released shortly I believe. An extension to Centennial Park would return London buses to the site of the famous Aldenham Bus Overhaul Works. Depends if it actually enters Centennial Park or terminates at the roundabout outside. I feel it should enter Centennial Park as it would give the workers there a bus service rather than them having to walk out to Elstree Hill to catch a 107
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