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Post by M1104 on Jan 6, 2015 11:16:51 GMT
The new round the corner link will be useful although it could just as easily be provided by the 155 or 333 so it still doesn't justify the 415, I assumed the idea of an N415 was a joke? Brixton Road residents (Camberwell New Road to Stockwell Park Walk) would then miss out on the link to Old Kent Rd. That section of Brixton Road has lost good bus links in it's time; 109 to Croydon, 333 to Tooting Broadway, etc . It's good that residential area's gaining something half decent. In any case there is nothing stopping the 155 from being rerouted to Old Kent Rd in future, upon contract renewal for example. EDIT: and to agree with VJ's reply (which I noticed up just before mine), it gives those residents a direct link to another set of retails. |
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Post by moz on Jan 6, 2015 15:31:05 GMT
The new round the corner link will be useful although it could just as easily be provided by the 155 or 333 so it still doesn't justify the 415, I assumed the idea of an N415 was a joke? Brixton Road residents (Camberwell New Road to Stockwell Park Walk) would then miss out on the link to Old Kent Rd. That section of Brixton Road has lost good bus links in it's time; 109 to Croydon, 333 to Tooting Broadway, etc . It's good that residential area's gaining something half decent. In any case there is nothing stopping the 155 from being rerouted to Old Kent Rd in future, upon contract renewal for example. EDIT: and to agree with VJ's reply (which I noticed up just before mine), it gives those residents a direct link to another set of retails. I suspect you will also find a fair few people using it between the two stops at Elephant which isn't exactly an easy journey on foot if you want to get from the Tabernacle side stops to the southbound New Kent Road stops. Moz |
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Post by sid on Jan 6, 2015 17:54:03 GMT
The new round the corner link will be useful although it could just as easily be provided by the 155 or 333 so it still doesn't justify the 415, I assumed the idea of an N415 was a joke? Brixton Road residents (Camberwell New Road to Stockwell Park Walk) would then miss out on the link to Old Kent Rd. That section of Brixton Road has lost good bus links in it's time; 109 to Croydon, 333 to Tooting Broadway, etc . It's good that residential area's gaining something half decent. In any case there is nothing stopping the 155 from being rerouted to Old Kent Rd in future, upon contract renewal for example. EDIT: and to agree with VJ's reply (which I noticed up just before mine), it gives those residents a direct link to another set of retails. As you mentioned the 333 went that way before the 415 was introduced, better still just extend the 432 to E&C and onto Old Kent Road |
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Post by vjaska on Jan 6, 2015 18:39:49 GMT
The new round the corner link will be useful although it could just as easily be provided by the 155 or 333 so it still doesn't justify the 415, I assumed the idea of an N415 was a joke? Brixton Road residents (Camberwell New Road to Stockwell Park Walk) would then miss out on the link to Old Kent Rd. That section of Brixton Road has lost good bus links in it's time; 109 to Croydon, 333 to Tooting Broadway, etc . It's good that residential area's gaining something half decent. In any case there is nothing stopping the 155 from being rerouted to Old Kent Rd in future, upon contract renewal for example. EDIT: and to agree with VJ's reply (which I noticed up just before mine), it gives those residents a direct link to another set of retails. Although I agree regarding Brixton Road losing it's link to Tooting Broadway, there was a much bigger need to establish a link from Brixton Hill to Stockwell which was wanted by locals for many years rather than changing buses in Brixton. |
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 7, 2015 5:17:48 GMT
The new round the corner link will be useful although it could just as easily be provided by the 155 or 333 so it still doesn't justify the 415, I assumed the idea of an N415 was a joke? 155 & 333 already have a lot of usage. The 415 is dead and should provide the extra capacity needed and probably very popular for the local. Brixton Road residents (Camberwell New Road to Stockwell Park Walk) would then miss out on the link to Old Kent Rd. That section of Brixton Road has lost good bus links in it's time; 109 to Croydon, 333 to Tooting Broadway, etc . It's good that residential area's gaining something half decent. In any case there is nothing stopping the 155 from being rerouted to Old Kent Rd in future, upon contract renewal for example. EDIT: and to agree with VJ's reply (which I noticed up just before mine), it gives those residents a direct link to another set of retails. As you mentioned the 333 went that way before the 415 was introduced, better still just extend the 432 to E&C and onto Old Kent Road Really no need to extend the 432 to Old Kent Road, the 415 is already at Elephant & Castle and not used much so is a good idea and watch passenger numbers increase and people using it to go to Brixton from South Bermondsey. 432 would be better off with an extension to Elmers End Green via the 157 & 354 providing a faster alternative to Crystal Palace. |
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Post by sid on Jan 7, 2015 7:27:40 GMT
The new round the corner link will be useful although it could just as easily be provided by the 155 or 333 so it still doesn't justify the 415, I assumed the idea of an N415 was a joke? 155 & 333 already have a lot of usage. The 415 is dead and should provide the extra capacity needed and probably very popular for the local. As you mentioned the 333 went that way before the 415 was introduced, better still just extend the 432 to E&C and onto Old Kent Road Really no need to extend the 432 to Old Kent Road, the 415 is already at Elephant & Castle and not used much so is a good idea and watch passenger numbers increase and people using it to go to Brixton from South Bermondsey. 432 would be better off with an extension to Elmers End Green via the 157 & 354 providing a faster alternative to Crystal Palace. I meant extend the 432 to E&C replacing the 415 but yes an extension to Elmers End would be useful |
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Post by Nathan on Jan 7, 2015 12:36:12 GMT
It would be great if the 415 could be extendes to New Cross Gate, Sainsbury's. But there's always so much traffic on the A2
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Post by moz on Jan 7, 2015 12:57:45 GMT
It would be great if the 415 could be extendes to New Cross Gate, Sainsbury's. But there's always so much traffic on the A2 Why stop there? Carry on up Deptford Church Street and Creek Road then they could link it on to the 129!  Moz |
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Post by Nathan on Jan 7, 2015 12:59:27 GMT
It would be great if the 415 could be extendes to New Cross Gate, Sainsbury's. But there's always so much traffic on the A2 Why stop there? Carry on up Deptford Church Street and Creek Road then they could link it on to the 129! Moz You might as well extend the 415 all the way to North Greenwich and get rid of the 129  or extend the 129 the other way |
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 7, 2015 13:20:48 GMT
155 & 333 already have a lot of usage. The 415 is dead and should provide the extra capacity needed and probably very popular for the local. Really no need to extend the 432 to Old Kent Road, the 415 is already at Elephant & Castle and not used much so is a good idea and watch passenger numbers increase and people using it to go to Brixton from South Bermondsey. 432 would be better off with an extension to Elmers End Green via the 157 & 354 providing a faster alternative to Crystal Palace. I meant extend the 432 to E&C replacing the 415 but yes an extension to Elmers End would be useful No need, now that the 415 is being Extended to Old Kent Road, Tesco, the 415 & 432 do not need to be merged. |
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 7, 2015 13:22:59 GMT
Why stop there? Carry on up Deptford Church Street and Creek Road then they could link it on to the 129! Moz You might as well extend the 415 all the way to North Greenwich and get rid of the 129 or extend the 129 the other way Would be unreliable because of Greenwich, New Cross & Deptford delays. 129 is fine until the Silvertown Tunnel is built |
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Post by M1104 on Jan 7, 2015 13:26:33 GMT
The Old Kent Road: Tesco terminus also leaves possibilities of another short, unique, round the corner link via Rotherhithe new Road and South Bermondsey to Surrey Quays. This would somewhat re-establish a link from there to the south west London area (parallel link lost by the cut back of the P13 in 2004).
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 7, 2015 13:32:23 GMT
The Old Kent Road: Tesco terminus also leaves possibilities of another short, unique, round the corner link via Rotherhithe new Road and South Bermondsey to Surrey Quays. This would somewhat re-establish a link from there to the south west London area (parallel link lost by the cut back of the P13 in 2004). Possibly mean the 168 or 415 extended to Canada Water? |
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Post by M1104 on Jan 7, 2015 14:14:10 GMT
The Old Kent Road: Tesco terminus also leaves possibilities of another short, unique, round the corner link via Rotherhithe new Road and South Bermondsey to Surrey Quays. This would somewhat re-establish a link from there to the south west London area (parallel link lost by the cut back of the P13 in 2004). Possibly mean the 168 or 415 extended to Canada Water? Yes the 415 as the link would be more unique. |
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Post by sid on Jan 7, 2015 14:54:26 GMT
I meant extend the 432 to E&C replacing the 415 but yes an extension to Elmers End would be useful No need, now that the 415 is being Extended to Old Kent Road, Tesco, the 415 & 432 do not need to be merged. They do, three routes along Tulse Hill are not needed, it's a waste of precious resources |
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or extend the 129 the other way