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Post by snoggle on Jan 11, 2015 18:10:15 GMT
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Post by YY13VKP on Jan 11, 2015 21:13:08 GMT
Looks nice! Wasn't the northern line not stopping there for a while for these works? |
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Post by snoggle on Jan 11, 2015 21:54:28 GMT
Looks nice! Wasn't the northern line not stopping there for a while for these works? Correct - the Northern Line resumed stopping late last year. Now the Central Line is not stopping and won't do so for most of 2015. The new exits to Centrepoint Plaza should open later this year and I expect access to the Central Line will resume just before Christmas 2015. I suspect that some bits of the lower level links won't open until 2016. We then have to wait until December 2018 for the final blue bits to disappear when Crossrail opens across Central London and to Abbey Wood. |
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Post by snowman on Jan 13, 2015 9:33:27 GMT
Annoyingly I walked past it middle of last week, entrance was just being finished As Snoggle has said, Centrpoint plaza entrances open late 2015 and Central Line resumes end of 2015 There is a very good plan on last page of this document (although some details have changed) www3.westminster.gov.uk/docstores/publications_store/Tot_Ct_Rd_Station_East_Planning_Brief.pdfThe plan also shows the proposed platforms of crossrail2 (running North-South) all the extra passageways are clearly visible. Note that there are some extra stubs of passageways towards crossrail2 but these will remain blocked for now When the Central London railway and Charing Cross Euston and Hampsted railways were first built escalators hadn't been invented and used lift shafts and stairways, some of these still exist but are blocked to the public. (Originally the two companies had separate stations each side of Charring Cross Road, and the circular lift shafts for each are clearly visible),along with the original low level passages from lifts to platforms. At the time the running tunnels were placed under the road wherever possible but this means there was never enough room to add circulation passages between the platforms. The Escalators therefore are outside with new bridges over the platforms and short stairways to between the platforms. Station expansion has seen duplicate passageway to Central line (so departing and arriving passengers can be kept separate). This (look at last picture) has the new and old bits colour coded so might be easier to understand www.nce.co.uk/tottenham-court-road-underground-sensation/8627116.article |
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Post by routew15 on Jan 18, 2015 18:56:49 GMT
Annoyingly I walked past it middle of last week, entrance was just being finished As Snoggle has said, Centrpoint plaza entrances open late 2015 and Central Line resumes end of 2015 There is a very good plan on last page of this document (although some details have changed) www3.westminster.gov.uk/docstores/publications_store/Tot_Ct_Rd_Station_East_Planning_Brief.pdfThe plan also shows the proposed platforms of crossrail2 (running North-South) all the extra passageways are clearly visible. Note that there are some extra stubs of passageways towards crossrail2 but these will remain blocked for now When the Central London railway and Charing Cross Euston and Hampsted railways were first built escalators hadn't been invented and used lift shafts and stairways, some of these still exist but are blocked to the public. (Originally the two companies had separate stations each side of Charring Cross Road, and the circular lift shafts for each are clearly visible),along with the original low level passages from lifts to platforms. At the time the running tunnels were placed under the road wherever possible but this means there was never enough room to add circulation passages between the platforms. The Escalators therefore are outside with new bridges over the platforms and short stairways to between the platforms. Station expansion has seen duplicate passageway to Central line (so departing and arriving passengers can be kept separate). This (look at last picture) has the new and old bits colour coded so might be easier to understand www.nce.co.uk/tottenham-court-road-underground-sensation/8627116.articleThank you for these very interesting links. When you look at the size of Crossrail in comparison to the Underground it is truly extraordinary, I can't wait to physically see it! Noticed in the drawings that 5 ticket offices (4 before the barriers 1 after) were planned to be built for the Eastern Ticket Hall and 4 (3 before the barriers 1 after) for the Western Ticket Hall. I find the rentention of the Dominion Theatre entrance/exit a very strange decision, it slices this part of the concourse into a funny shape. (From what I understand of the drawings) The 'short cut' staircase to the Westbound Central Line platform is going to be closed. Leaving the 2 existing one's and one new set. Access to the Northern Line is abundant, there are 3 existing escalators leading to the old side of the station, then 4 sets of stairs leading to the new side! The safeguarding of Crossrail 2 is done very well, the new platforms should be easy to link to the existing station. From what I remember of Crossrail 1 when it was originally proposed, I am sure it was detailed as 12 carriage train link*, What i would like to know is if the platforms at the Central stations will be able to hold 12 car trains in the future? Does anyone know if the Escalators to the Central Line from the Western Ticket Hall are still going to be built with the current Crossrail 1 project?
(* I do acknowledge when it opens in 2018 it will be 9 cars) |
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Post by snowman on Jan 18, 2015 20:30:11 GMT
Annoyingly I walked past it middle of last week, entrance was just being finished As Snoggle has said, Centrpoint plaza entrances open late 2015 and Central Line resumes end of 2015 There is a very good plan on last page of this document (although some details have changed) www3.westminster.gov.uk/docstores/publications_store/Tot_Ct_Rd_Station_East_Planning_Brief.pdfThe plan also shows the proposed platforms of crossrail2 (running North-South) all the extra passageways are clearly visible. Note that there are some extra stubs of passageways towards crossrail2 but these will remain blocked for now When the Central London railway and Charing Cross Euston and Hampsted railways were first built escalators hadn't been invented and used lift shafts and stairways, some of these still exist but are blocked to the public. (Originally the two companies had separate stations each side of Charring Cross Road, and the circular lift shafts for each are clearly visible),along with the original low level passages from lifts to platforms. At the time the running tunnels were placed under the road wherever possible but this means there was never enough room to add circulation passages between the platforms. The Escalators therefore are outside with new bridges over the platforms and short stairways to between the platforms. Station expansion has seen duplicate passageway to Central line (so departing and arriving passengers can be kept separate). This (look at last picture) has the new and old bits colour coded so might be easier to understand www.nce.co.uk/tottenham-court-road-underground-sensation/8627116.articleThank you for these very interesting links. When you look at the size of Crossrail in comparison to the Underground it is truly extraordinary, I can't wait to physically see it! Noticed in the drawings that 5 ticket offices (4 before the barriers 1 after) were planned to be built for the Eastern Ticket Hall and 4 (3 before the barriers 1 after) for the Western Ticket Hall. I find the rentention of the Dominion Theatre entrance/exit a very strange decision, it slices this part of the concourse into a funny shape. (From what I understand of the drawings) The 'short cut' staircase to the Westbound Central Line platform is going to be closed. Leaving the 2 existing one's and one new set. Access to the Northern Line is abundant, there are 3 existing escalators leading to the old side of the station, then 4 sets of stairs leading to the new side! The safeguarding of Crossrail 2 is done very well, the new platforms should be easy to link to the existing station. From what I remember of Crossrail 1 when it was originally proposed, I am sure it was detailed as 12 carriage train link*, What i would like to know is if the platforms at the Central stations will be able to hold 12 car trains in the future? Does anyone know if the Escalators to the Central Line from the Western Ticket Hall are still going to be built with the current Crossrail 1 project?
(* I do acknowledge when it opens in 2018 it will be 9 cars)The initial procurement in 2010 envisaged 10 car trains, each car 20m, however the award was for 9 car trains with each car about 22.2m long (gives same 200m length), the trains can be lengthened to 11 cars (245m) and the platforms have been designed to take this length. Initially end platform doors will be locked out of use (as also happened on Jubilee line when that operated with 6 car trains). The stations at Heathrow can currently only take 9 car trains. Initially there will be 65 trains (with 18 options not yet exercised), the trains will be 25kv only (but can be modified to also use 750V dc (if the safeguarded Abbey Wood - Gravesend - Hoo Junction section is added). There has also been a proposal to built a spur from near Westbourne Park to the West Coast mainline thus allowing trains from Milton Keynes area onto crossrail. This of course would free up space at Euston which makes modifying the station for HS2 cheaper by Hundreds of million pounds. The peak hour frequency can be raised from 24 trains/hr to about 30/hour. If the trains were lengthened, capacity (including standing) would be nearer 1830 instead of 1500 per train. If both frequency and lengthening occur, capacity goes up 50% www.crossrail.co.uk/route/safeguarding/abbey-wood-to-hoo-junction |
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Post by snoggle on Jan 18, 2015 20:45:24 GMT
Thank you for these very interesting links. When you look at the size of Crossrail in comparison to the Underground it is truly extraordinary, I can't wait to physically see it! Noticed in the drawings that 5 ticket offices (4 before the barriers 1 after) were planned to be built for the Eastern Ticket Hall and 4 (3 before the barriers 1 after) for the Western Ticket Hall. I find the rentention of the Dominion Theatre entrance/exit a very strange decision, it slices this part of the concourse into a funny shape. (From what I understand of the drawings) The 'short cut' staircase to the Westbound Central Line platform is going to be closed. Leaving the 2 existing one's and one new set. Access to the Northern Line is abundant, there are 3 existing escalators leading to the old side of the station, then 4 sets of stairs leading to the new side! The safeguarding of Crossrail 2 is done very well, the new platforms should be easy to link to the existing station. From what I remember of Crossrail 1 when it was originally proposed, I am sure it was detailed as 12 carriage train link*, What i would like to know is if the platforms at the Central stations will be able to hold 12 car trains in the future? Does anyone know if the Escalators to the Central Line from the Western Ticket Hall are still going to be built with the current Crossrail 1 project?
(* I do acknowledge when it opens in 2018 it will be 9 cars) I think the scale of Crossrail central area stations is going to startle lots of people. Looking forward to seeing them. I think the Dominion exit has been retained to try to reduce the volume of pedestrians having to cross on the surface given future plans to turn TCR 2 way which will increase traffic flows through the junction. From my reading of the drawing the short escalator link and corridor from the Northern to the Central is being kept. It's harder to tell what happens to the two short escalators up from an intermediate level from the Northern to the bottom of the Central Line escalators. It certainly looks like one of the former staircases disappears to become a MIP lift from the Northern to the Central Line level. The Bombardier trains are designed to be extended to 11 cars long. When they are that long they will be same length as the originally proposed 12 car trains. All of the Crossrail platforms are built to the 11 / 12 car length. It remains to be seen whether PEDS will be installed to 11 car length with 2 cars worth initially inoperable or if something else is done but with provision to add the extra doors later. There is no reason why the Central Line escalators from the Western Ticket Hall would not be built / commissioned. It would be far too complicated to just have Central Line access from the eastern end given the massive additional low level tunnels being built to give access to the Central Line. |
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Post by T.R. on Dec 2, 2015 13:11:42 GMT
Duplicate post
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Post by T.R. on Dec 2, 2015 13:11:17 GMT
Attachment DeletedSorry to dig this up. The new Charing Cross Road entrance to TCR station has opened. And Evening Standard reports that Central Line trains will resume serving TCR from Monday.
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Post by snoggle on Dec 2, 2015 17:16:52 GMT
View AttachmentSorry to dig this up. The new Charing Cross Road entrance to TCR station has opened. And Evening Standard reports that Central Line trains will resume serving TCR from Monday. Curses! If I'd known I'd have gone and got a snap. I suspect the access to the Central Line will actually open on Sunday as happened last time when the new bit to the Northern Line opened. Advertised for Monday but happened quietly on the Sunday afternoon. Press release from TfL (includes link to TfL's photos of the new entrance) tfl.gov.uk/info-for/media/press-releases/2015/december/new-glass-tube-entrance-opens-at-tottenham-court-road |
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Post by snoggle on Dec 22, 2016 18:10:48 GMT
The final entrances at TCR on to New Oxford St and the corner of TCR have opened today. Diamond Geezer got there on the dot. |
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Post by snowman on Feb 10, 2017 8:36:00 GMT
It is being reported in various media that the final entrance has opened this morning and it is now officially the 71st station with step free access. For Clarity this is the Underground enlargement, not the extra Crossrail entrance building (Dean Street) which opens in 2019. Oxford Street is due to be closed tomorrow and Sunday for removal of the Tower Crane at Dean Street site 2.bp.blogspot.com/-gD0Ao5mZWXg/TZcboowLnQI/AAAAAAAACQg/i_ewB2AKTUo/s1600/tcrlayout.pngOn the diagram the original ticket hall is the square on the left of the yellow bit, the main yellow bit is the enlarged ticket hall. The pink section is the existing station (and the original liftshafts are obvious). The orange is the new passageways to the Central line (the two stubs and the third one on left are start of Crossrail 2 passageways). The grey/light blue is new Elizabeth line. The dark blue the new access to the Northern line |
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Post by snoggle on Feb 10, 2017 16:15:29 GMT
It is being reported in various media that the final entrance has opened this morning and it is now officially the 71st station with step free access. For Clarity this is the Underground enlargement, not the extra Crossrail entrance building (Dean Street) which opens in 2019. Oxford Street is due to be closed tomorrow and Sunday for removal of the Tower Crane at Dean Street site 2.bp.blogspot.com/-gD0Ao5mZWXg/TZcboowLnQI/AAAAAAAACQg/i_ewB2AKTUo/s1600/tcrlayout.pngOn the diagram the original ticket hall is the square on the left of the yellow bit, the main yellow bit is the enlarged ticket hall. The pink section is the existing station (and the original liftshafts are obvious). The orange is the new passageways to the Central line (the two stubs and the third one on left are start of Crossrail 2 passageways). The grey/light blue is new Elizabeth line. The dark blue the new access to the Northern line I don't think it is anything about a new entrance per se. The last main entrances opened in December and there were no more to open. What I think has happened is that LU have managed to gain access to a couple of bits of Crossrail's new build and this has allowed step free access to be provided. Recently a large corridor, parallel to the Central Line, has been opened. This will be part of a larger connection to Crossrail from the central line but it also includes lift access to the platform (orange on the layout). I believe a new lift from ticket hall to the street was part of the north facing "glass triangle" exit. What I'm a bit less certain about is step free access to the Northern - there appears to be a lift straight down from the ticket hall with an intermediate link to a corridor round to the orange area. If this has also all opened then step free access from the platforms will have been achieved. When Dean St ticket hall opens in late 2018 there is also lift access there giving a more direct access for the Central Line. |
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