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Post by capitalomnibus on Aug 26, 2015 20:19:57 GMT
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Post by daveb0789 on Aug 27, 2015 8:04:57 GMT
I can't believe this from an ex London bus drivers point of view. CCTV pointed at the driver, green road and now this ? It obvious what Tfl think of bus drivers and I'll be telling them this via Twitter. Disgusting.
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Post by snoggle on Aug 27, 2015 8:33:29 GMT
I can't believe this from an ex London bus drivers point of view. CCTV pointed at the driver, green road and now this ? It obvious what Tfl think of bus drivers and I'll be telling them this via Twitter. Disgusting. Alternatively you could take a deep breath and then appreciate that this is not about a campaign against bus drivers. It is about a response to a great deal of external pressure about the level of accidents involving buses. Note that I did not say the bus driver is to blame in every instance as we do not have the stats for that. Unfortunately to expect rationality from campaigners is a step too far but TfL is not immune to that political pressure because it is led by the Mayor and has to do his bidding. If you want to express your disgust then direct it at the politicians and campaigners and see how far you get!
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Post by marlon101 on Aug 27, 2015 10:24:51 GMT
I can't believe this from an ex London bus drivers point of view. CCTV pointed at the driver, green road and now this ? It obvious what Tfl think of bus drivers and I'll be telling them this via Twitter. Disgusting. Alternatively you could take a deep breath and then appreciate that this is not about a campaign against bus drivers. It is about a response to a great deal of external pressure about the level of accidents involving buses. Note that I did not say the bus driver is to blame in every instance as we do not have the stats for that. Unfortunately to expect rationality from campaigners is a step too far but TfL is not immune to that political pressure because it is led by the Mayor and has to do his bidding. If you want to express your disgust then direct it at the politicians and campaigners and see how far you get! I would engage with this on more of a practical point of view. I've always been wary of speed limiters on account of how useful it can be, on occasions, to power out of hairy situations. If something's coming at you, sometimes the gap is in front of you, rather than behind etc. etc. But I see the utility in a bus. With so much to be looking out for, especially pedestrians & drivers who take the view 'bus is slow, so I'll take my chances pulling out on it/crossing in front if it' would it not be more useful for a driver to be looking up rather than frequently looking down at the speedometer to check they're not risking their job by cruising above the limit?
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Post by capitalomnibus on Aug 27, 2015 22:42:41 GMT
I can't believe this from an ex London bus drivers point of view. CCTV pointed at the driver, green road and now this ? It obvious what Tfl think of bus drivers and I'll be telling them this via Twitter. Disgusting. Not all companies have CCTV pointing at the drivers face. There are still a few with rules that they would not do this if any camera is in the cab, they would place it that it would only view the assault screen for anyone boarding or for assaults against the driver (ie the drivers view of someone outside the cab door.)
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Post by M1104 on Apr 15, 2016 21:18:13 GMT
From April 2016 edition of LOTS.....
"The trials were said to be particularly affective in 20mph zones and TfL is looking at the possibilities for all new buses to be fitted with the technology from next year."
It 'appears' that older buses may not be affected then?....perhaps in relation to known techno-hiccups against their engine operation.
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Post by VPL630 on Apr 15, 2016 22:33:32 GMT
From April 2016 edition of LOTS..... "The trials were said to be particularly affective in 20mph zones and TfL is looking at the possibilities for all new buses to be fitted with the technology from next year." It 'appears' that older buses may not be affected then?....perhaps in relation to known techno-hiccups against their engine operation. and as soon as the lost millage sky rockets they will realise how stupid of an idea this is
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Post by ServerKing on Apr 15, 2016 23:23:44 GMT
From April 2016 edition of LOTS..... "The trials were said to be particularly affective in 20mph zones and TfL is looking at the possibilities for all new buses to be fitted with the technology from next year." It 'appears' that older buses may not be affected then?....perhaps in relation to known techno-hiccups against their engine operation. and as soon as the lost millage sky rockets they will realise how stupid of an idea this is Many drivers heading to / from the garage at the start or end of the shift may not appreciate being governed to 20 or 30 whilst running dead, especially when the streets are as empty as Kim Kardashian's head a dead run on the E10 or 268 could be very time consuming if the system cannot be overridden. But like the efficient Borismaster, I am sure they have thought this scheme through
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Post by Nathan on Apr 16, 2016 0:11:44 GMT
From April 2016 edition of LOTS..... "The trials were said to be particularly affective in 20mph zones and TfL is looking at the possibilities for all new buses to be fitted with the technology from next year." It 'appears' that older buses may not be affected then?....perhaps in relation to known techno-hiccups against their engine operation. and as soon as the lost millage sky rockets they will realise how stupid of an idea this is Won't PVR increases just solve the problem? That's what they've been doing so far.
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Post by Unorm on Apr 16, 2016 8:45:24 GMT
From April 2016 edition of LOTS..... "The trials were said to be particularly affective in 20mph zones and TfL is looking at the possibilities for all new buses to be fitted with the technology from next year." It 'appears' that older buses may not be affected then?....perhaps in relation to known techno-hiccups against their engine operation. Meanwhile, routes like 2, 381 and probably others are getting timetable arrangements due to 20mph limits.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Apr 18, 2016 19:11:33 GMT
It is going to cost people as a whole. I suspect routes within areas such as Tower Hamlets, Hackney etc to need 1-2 buses per route because of this.
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Post by snowman on Apr 18, 2016 21:14:41 GMT
It is going to cost people as a whole. I suspect routes within areas such as Tower Hamlets, Hackney etc to need 1-2 buses per route because of this. Or it might cost them a lower frequency, as journey takes longer if PVR is unchanged. Not hard to imagine a conversation in TfL Towers. ... shall we fund 100 extra buses for routes with lower speed limits, or shall we just increase running time, slightly thin the frequency and not spend any extra. If a few more boroughs do it, might need 300 or 400 extra buses, oh whoops we can't afford that so let's not start on the slippery slope of more buses......
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Post by snoggle on Apr 18, 2016 21:23:47 GMT
It is going to cost people as a whole. I suspect routes within areas such as Tower Hamlets, Hackney etc to need 1-2 buses per route because of this. Or it might cost them a lower frequency, as journey takes longer if PVR is unchanged. Not hard to imagine a conversation in TfL Towers. ... shall we fund 100 extra buses for routes with lower speed limits, or shall we just increase running time, slightly thin the frequency and not spend any extra. If a few more boroughs do it, might need 300 or 400 extra buses, oh whoops we can't afford that so let's not start on the slippery slope of more buses...... Quite clearly that scale of expense to "stand still" is unaffordable. At some point TfL is going to face a dilemma about how to balance road safety concerns against the efficacy of the bus network. If bus services become unattractive or unduly overcrowded then we will end up with a negative spiral of people quitting the bus network and moving to cars, private hire vehicles or having to walk. Not sure that's a terribly sensible outcome for anyone.
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Post by snoggle on Apr 10, 2017 16:33:58 GMT
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Post by vjaska on Apr 10, 2017 17:09:54 GMT
If that's the case, why bother having drivers - I mean how many buses actually reach their destination everyday safe & well...
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