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Post by snoggle on Sept 14, 2015 20:19:35 GMT
As I am fast approaching official "old gitdom" it's a long time since I went to school / sixth form. Therefore I really don't have a clue how schools work these days but when I went to school the hours were broadly 0830/0900 to about 1600 with an hour or hour and 10 mins for lunch. There was next to no flexibility around those times and if you were seen outside school during school hours then you were probably truanting or doing a cross country run [1]. These days I see kids out of school at all sorts of times. Their travel times are spread over hours in the am and pm peaks. They can be on the street from 0700 in the morning or heading home from 1430 onwards. Is there no longer any concept of standard school hours? Are lessons so scattered about that children from 12 years onwards have "flexible" school hours and free periods? The hours for primary schools seem more regimented - presumably to give certainty to parents so they can take / collect kids to / from school. As I'm not a parent I have no clue about how things work these days in schools. Is it really as chaotic / flexible as it looks? [1] yes I used to do cross country running. This will come as a shock to anyone who's seen me in more recent times.
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Post by Nathan on Sept 14, 2015 21:00:19 GMT
Sixth Forms tend to have lessons scattered across the week in colleges. So if you have a free period, you can go out and do whatever you like...until your next lesson starts, of course. Ah school...seems like such a long time since I left, even though it's only been a few years
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Post by greeny253 on Sept 14, 2015 21:46:51 GMT
Sixth Forms tend to have lessons scattered across the week in colleges. So if you have a free period, you can go out and do whatever you like...until your next lesson starts, of course. Ah school...seems like such a long time since I left, even though it's only been a few years My "free periods" or study periods as the college liked to call them were always conveniently at the end of the day. Needless to say, I always went home early those days! Too interested in the girlfriend at the time to study..... Stay in school kids!
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Post by LX09FBJ on Sept 14, 2015 22:44:48 GMT
At secondary school I always started at 8:40 and finished at 3pm, very rarely would we finish earlier, with the exception of the Varisty rugby matches, when we finished at around 1:40-ish to avoid the rugby traffic. We weren't allowed out at lunch until Year 11, where we had to be back by the time classes began etc, so the furthest you could go realistically was Twickenham Green or just before Richmond Bridge. At college, breaks were often longer, and if a lecturer was absent, we'd have that lesson off. The start times varied too, some days you'd have to be in at 9am, others at 12pm. The latest I'd leave college was 4pm, where there were still some of the school kids left. Would sometimes go home via Hounslow and Isleworth for the sake of it (and to ride the H20 which I had a fixation on for some time). Breaks were fairly long too, so I could go to Richmond, or at a push Hounslow during the break time. University offered the most flexibility, though in my first term I had to be at Roehampton Vale at 8:30am, with the worlds most reliable bus service as my primary mode of transport! The biggest gap (can't remember exactly how long it was) but it was enough time to go from Kingston to Mitcham (via the 200, which I cleared in the process), then to Tooting and back to Kingston and the University with about half an hour to spare. I'm likely to do a part-time masters degree, so that too will bring an even more flexible timetable. I might be able to report more on this once I know what the timetable is like. Even in the past 5-10 years, school has changed a lot from what I can see, it's become mostly academies and kids seem to wear whatever they want (many kids now wear actual trainers to school) whereas when I went to school, every assembly this issue was raised about 'plimsoll' type shoes. Not a fan of school kids 1, some are tolerable but some drive me up the ****ing wall! 21Which translated by others that know me as "scared of them" 2Especially young couples
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Sept 15, 2015 2:16:08 GMT
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Post by vjaska on Sept 15, 2015 2:16:08 GMT
My primary school, Corpus Christi of Brixton, started at 8:15 and finished at 15:00 which was standard primary school times back then as most other local primary schools had similar start and finish times.
My secondary school, St. Joseph's College in Upper Norwood, started at 8:15 and finished between 14:40 & 14:50 depending on what year you were in (Year 7, 8 & 9 finished at 14:40, Year 10 & 11 at 14:50 with the sixth form having separate times for finishing). The reason for these times was so not to clash with other local schools as kids were regularly being beaten up and robbed such as our main rivals, Stanley Tech of Norwood Junction, which is now Harris Academy, Bishop Thomas Grant & Dunraven, both of Streatham. This now also includes Norwood High which became a mixed school after formerly being Norwood Girls School.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 15, 2015 2:16:48 GMT
Sixth Forms tend to have lessons scattered across the week in colleges. So if you have a free period, you can go out and do whatever you like...until your next lesson starts, of course. Ah school...seems like such a long time since I left, even though it's only been a few years 10 years since I left school and I couldn't be happier lol.
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Post by Green Kitten on Sept 15, 2015 11:48:47 GMT
For me, a proud Owenian, school started at 8:45am and finished at 3:45pm. Unless you were a sixth former you had to stay in school grounds at all times. I challenged that when we went to the Candie Stop, quite a while away, to get sweets, as a revolt against the 'healthy school dinners' scheme, only to be followed by one of the teachers. We got into much trouble that day. to be fair, I did my fair share of stupidity in secondary school By sixth-form you were allowed to go home when you didn't have lessons, so as I lived very close to school, sometimes I would go home and fix me up what I cooked yesterday for lunch, would usually go home during free periods and always went home early if my free period was the last lesson of the day! Sadly in Year 12 I only had two free periods as I was silly enough to choose Further Maths as an A-Level During these free periods, I was surprised to see loads of lowly Y7-11 students out of school grounds - that wasn't allowed back in my day! When I was in those years there was usually a teacher by the gates to stop that from happening, but now it's pretty lax, it seems.
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Post by Red Dragon on Sept 15, 2015 16:17:13 GMT
At secondary school I always started at 8:40 and finished at 3pm, very rarely would we finish earlier, with the exception of the Varisty rugby matches, when we finished at around 1:40-ish to avoid the rugby traffic. We weren't allowed out at lunch until Year 11, where we had to be back by the time classes began etc, so the furthest you could go realistically was Twickenham Green or just before Richmond Bridge. At college, breaks were often longer, and if a lecturer was absent, we'd have that lesson off. The start times varied too, some days you'd have to be in at 9am, others at 12pm. The latest I'd leave college was 4pm, where there were still some of the school kids left. Would sometimes go home via Hounslow and Isleworth for the sake of it (and to ride the H20 which I had a fixation on for some time). Breaks were fairly long too, so I could go to Richmond, or at a push Hounslow during the break time. University offered the most flexibility, though in my first term I had to be at Roehampton Vale at 8:30am, with the worlds most reliable bus service as my primary mode of transport! The biggest gap (can't remember exactly how long it was) but it was enough time to go from Kingston to Mitcham (via the 200, which I cleared in the process), then to Tooting and back to Kingston and the University with about half an hour to spare. I'm likely to do a part-time masters degree, so that too will bring an even more flexible timetable. I might be able to report more on this once I know what the timetable is like. Even in the past 5-10 years, school has changed a lot from what I can see, it's become mostly academies and kids seem to wear whatever they want (many kids now wear actual trainers to school) whereas when I went to school, every assembly this issue was raised about 'plimsoll' type shoes. Not a fan of school kids 1, some are tolerable but some drive me up the ****ing wall! 21Which translated by others that know me as "scared of them" 2Especially young couples At my secondary school, we were 8:30-3:45, apart from Yr7&8 on Wednesdays and Fridays which finished at 3:05. We were allowed out from Yr10 afterwards, but only to the nearby shop and cafe... Not in our school. I have kept an eye on it (having a temporary job as IT technician there), and uniform is very strict. Blazer (boys and girls), tie all the way up to the top with top button done up and shirt tucked in, school supplied trousers (very strict on this), trousers for boys and skirts for girls (very lax about how high it went though...). Any breach of uniform regulations = an hour detention afterschool on Friday, 2 hours for repeat offenders. You just aren't seeing the right schools...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 19:21:28 GMT
I left school 20 years ago! Can't believe how quick time goes! Started 8.50am finished 3.30pm I think!
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 15, 2015 19:22:48 GMT
I'll let you lot guess what school I go to, all you lot need to know is that the 86 is the route I use and 686 starts at my school Being in Y12 at the moment we do get free or "flexi" periods as we call them in my school. School starts at 8:30 and finishes at 3:00 however on some days of my Timetable I have a late start, starting school at 9:30 and on some days I have no lessons period 5 so I leave school at 2:00pm. Despite starting at 8:30am the school gates would generally be open at 7:45am for pre school clubs and for last min homework sessions , this could cause a stagger in students arriving as some people like to be nice and early while some are running in seconds before the bell to avoid a late detention. During break times, Y12/13 students are allowed out for break despite there is probably nowhere to go in 20min and during lunch time Y11s are also allowed outside to buy some lunch. This is between 1:10 and 2:00 and you will see a lot of students running to the nearby McD's in Becontree Heath and running back to avoid losing the privilege of being allowed off-site for Lunch. Whenever Sixth Form students have "Flexi" periods we are allowed to leave the site on the condition that we tap out when we leave and tap back in when we re-enter the building for health and safety purposes. During lesson times all students are required to be in their timetabled lesson otherwise we risk getting in trouble. However should that teacher not be in, we will be set cover work and are expected to have that work ready for next lesson. Sometimes we do have a case of some children running out of the school grounds but they are generally in very severe trouble when they return. After school children who use the bus are generally put into a really long bus queue, this allows the teachers to manage the amount of students which get onto the bus and to work with the driver in ensuring that all the capacity in the bus is used. Sixth Formers are allowed to skip the queue . But once the bus leave the poor driver and passengers are left to their own devices with the school children. Something that has popped up recently is a school rivalry between my school and another school (which is served by route 673 ) and there have been numerous fights in Chadwell Heath over the years. Teachers do try their best to prevent this and when this happens on the bus you usually have police attending and the school receiving a nice letter explaining what had happened on the bus. Some of you have been bringing up that uniform rules have relaxed over the years and you surely are right, back when I started Y7 boys and girls were only allowed to bring in a black or navy blue bag, but now you get anything. Some children come to school wearing trainers and some might not even have a tie on. Every Assembly the main notice would be about uniform and how we have to maintain the school's reputation but this just seems to go out into one ear and out the other ear. Also being a Church of England School we usually have religious teachings tied in with our assemblies and are regularly sent to church to celebrate festivals such as Ascension Day and Lent. Every Harvest, Christmas and Easter we have two huge services in the school's sports hall where we are encouraged to take part in worship however a lot of people just sit there staring into blank space. Every Friday you have after school detentions with the head teacher or the head of department, depending on the circumstance they can last anywhere between 10 and 90 minutes, lasting from 3:10pm onwards. This could explain why you see some students leaving so late on Fridays. What else happens these days? Young couples are very common, you have some girls crying over their relationship break ups when they should be worrying about getting good GCSE grades. You can really see the difference it makes on some people's grades by how they approach their education. The other day I overheard some Y7s talking about getting into relationship despite them just being into 2 weeks of secondary school
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Post by YY13VKP on Sept 15, 2015 19:34:35 GMT
I'll let you lot guess what school I go to, all you lot need to know is that the 86 is the route I use and 686 starts at my school Being in Y12 at the moment we do get free or "flexi" periods as we call them in my school. School starts at 8:30 and finishes at 3:00 however on some days of my Timetable I have a late start, starting school at 9:30 and on some days I have no lessons period 5 so I leave school at 2:00pm. Despite starting at 8:30am the school gates would generally be open at 7:45am for pre school clubs and for last min homework sessions , this could cause a stagger in students arriving as some people like to be nice and early while some are running in seconds before the bell to avoid a late detention. During break times, Y12/13 students are allowed out for break despite there is probably nowhere to go in 20min and during lunch time Y11s are also allowed outside to buy some lunch. This is between 1:10 and 2:00 and you will see a lot of students running to the nearby McD's in Becontree Heath and running back to avoid losing the privilege of being allowed off-site for Lunch. Whenever Sixth Form students have "Flexi" periods we are allowed to leave the site on the condition that we tap out when we leave and tap back in when we re-enter the building for health and safety purposes. During lesson times all students are required to be in their timetabled lesson otherwise we risk getting in trouble. However should that teacher not be in, we will be set cover work and are expected to have that work ready for next lesson. Sometimes we do have a case of some children running out of the school grounds but they are generally in very severe trouble when they return. After school children who use the bus are generally put into a really long bus queue, this allows the teachers to manage the amount of students which get onto the bus and to work with the driver in ensuring that all the capacity in the bus is used. Sixth Formers are allowed to skip the queue . But once the bus leave the poor driver and passengers are left to their own devices with the school children. Something that has popped up recently is a school rivalry between my school and another school (which is served by route 673 ) and there have been numerous fights in Chadwell Heath over the years. Teachers do try their best to prevent this and when this happens on the bus you usually have police attending and the school receiving a nice letter explaining what had happened on the bus. Some of you have been bringing up that uniform rules have relaxed over the years and you surely are right, back when I started Y7 boys and girls were only allowed to bring in a black or navy blue bag, but now you get anything. Some children come to school wearing trainers and some might not even have a tie on. Every Assembly the main notice would be about uniform and how we have to maintain the school's reputation but this just seems to go out into one ear and out the other ear. Also being a Church of England School we usually have religious teachings tied in with our assemblies and are regularly sent to church to celebrate festivals such as Ascension Day and Lent. Every Harvest, Christmas and Easter we have two huge services in the school's sports hall where we are encouraged to take part in worship however a lot of people just sit there staring into blank space. Every Friday you have after school detentions with the head teacher or the head of department, depending on the circumstance they can last anywhere between 10 and 90 minutes, lasting from 3:10pm onwards. This could explain why you see some students leaving so late on Fridays. What else happens these days? Young couples are very common, you have some girls crying over their relationship break ups when they should be worrying about getting good GCSE grades. You can really see the difference it makes on some people's grades by how they approach their education. The other day I overheard some Y7s talking about getting into relationship despite them just being into 2 weeks of secondary school I am a year below you in Year 11!
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Post by YY13VKP on Sept 15, 2015 19:41:58 GMT
I start school at 8:15 and end at 3:50, but in my school, NOBODY goes out of school early as far as i know unless you are a sixth former who has a car or unless you need to go somewhere urgently. The best thing about finishing at 3:50 is i avoid the massive Coloma jam on the 466 in the afternoon.The pupils from Coloma School (which is a girls school) take up the whole bus and there is nowhere to sit! You should go to East Croydon at 7:30am and go to the 466 bus stop. When i get off, there is literally a whole crowd of them! Anyway, back to the topic of my school, Im doing my GCSE's in May, which i am NOT looking forward to. But i like my school. Like Eastlondoner62 I'll let you guess the name of my school. A clue is there is a tram stop directly outside it on Tram line 3.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 15, 2015 20:06:48 GMT
I start school at 8:15 and end at 3:50, but in my school, NOBODY goes out of school early as far as i know unless you are a sixth former who has a car or unless you need to go somewhere urgently. The best thing about finishing at 3:50 is i avoid the massive Coloma jam on the 466 in the afternoon.The pupils from Coloma School (which is a girls school) take up the whole bus and there is nowhere to sit! You should go to East Croydon at 7:30am and go to the 466 bus stop. When i get off, there is literally a whole crowd of them! Anyway, back to the topic of my school, Im doing my GCSE's in May, which i am NOT looking forward to. But i like my school. Like Eastlondoner62 I'll let you guess the name of my school. A clue is there is a tram stop directly outside it on Tram line 3. Oh my, that's a very long school day. I find myself struggling just 8:30 - 3:00 and that includes one or two free periods. But I do guess it is better that you finish later, that's what's been done with Warren, a school nearby to mine. They now finish far later than us and start much later than us, this eases the crowds on the 62 and 86 which are already up to their necks with just one school.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 22:12:17 GMT
I start school at 8:15 and end at 3:50, but in my school, NOBODY goes out of school early as far as i know unless you are a sixth former who has a car or unless you need to go somewhere urgently. The best thing about finishing at 3:50 is i avoid the massive Coloma jam on the 466 in the afternoon.The pupils from Coloma School (which is a girls school) take up the whole bus and there is nowhere to sit! You should go to East Croydon at 7:30am and go to the 466 bus stop. When i get off, there is literally a whole crowd of them! Anyway, back to the topic of my school, Im doing my GCSE's in May, which i am NOT looking forward to. But i like my school. Like Eastlondoner62 I'll let you guess the name of my school. A clue is there is a tram stop directly outside it on Tram line 3. Going to guess The Quest Academy if not Royal Russell but I'm also in Year 11 doing my GCSEs as well starting at 8:45 and finishing at 3:25 most people get out on time and when out there is usually a huge que ahead waiting for a bus on a narrow path however though when I was in year7/8 we were forced down to walk down into the nearest town centre which is about a 10/15 min walk but for a year 7 that was a long time. The bus however gets awfully packed despite the fact were on for a couple of stops and practically no one walks now. Also on a Friday some classes finish early 2:30 (however I don't due to me doing triple science) and also clashes with another school in the area meaning that buses are packed however alot of people get train anyways which is kind of pointless . Also about uniform it's kind of relaxed they have rules about what shoes you cant wear bags and etc. however most of the teachers don't really care and bother to check however there if a few but people will still not listen. It's also a catholic school so all of the teachings are taught during assembley which no one talks to. Also somethings are changing due to a new headmaster where he's trying to make shoe checks and pencil case checks seriously and also making people have a certain haircuit where it cant be too big or too short and without gel (a bit hard being somebody with Afro textured hair). Also it has a huge sporting culture especially in rugby so in Year 7/8 Rugby was compulsory and there was teams all the up to the F team playing on weekends which were also compulsory but a lot of people didn't enjoy this for a obvious reason, but one a whole it's alright but a bit over rated. Like others I'll give you a clue it's of the 127 route.
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Post by YY13VKP on Sept 15, 2015 22:14:46 GMT
I start school at 8:15 and end at 3:50, but in my school, NOBODY goes out of school early as far as i know unless you are a sixth former who has a car or unless you need to go somewhere urgently. The best thing about finishing at 3:50 is i avoid the massive Coloma jam on the 466 in the afternoon.The pupils from Coloma School (which is a girls school) take up the whole bus and there is nowhere to sit! You should go to East Croydon at 7:30am and go to the 466 bus stop. When i get off, there is literally a whole crowd of them! Anyway, back to the topic of my school, Im doing my GCSE's in May, which i am NOT looking forward to. But i like my school. Like Eastlondoner62 I'll let you guess the name of my school. A clue is there is a tram stop directly outside it on Tram line 3. Going to guess The Quest Academy if not Royal Russell but I'm also in Year 11 doing my GCSEs as well starting at 8:45 and finishing at 3:25 most people get out on time and when out there is usually a huge que ahead waiting for a bus on a narrow path however though when I was in year7/8 we were forced down to walk down into the nearest town centre which is about a 10/15 min walk but for a year 7 that was a long time. The bus however gets awfully packed despite the fact were on for a couple of stops and practically no one walks now. Also on a Friday some classes finish early 2:30 (however I don't due to me doing triple science) and also clashes with another school in the area meaning that buses are packed however alot of people get train anyways which is kind of pointless . Also about uniform it's kind of relaxed they have rules about what shoes you cant wear bags and etc. however most of the teachers don't really care and bother to check however there if a few but people will still not listen. It's also a catholic school so all of the teachings are taught during assembley which no one talks to. Also somethings are changing due to a new headmaster where he's trying to make shoe checks and pencil case checks seriously and also making people have a certain haircuit where it cant be too big or too short and without gel (a bit hard being somebody with Afro textured hair). Also it has a huge sporting culture especially in rugby so in Year 7/8 Rugby was compulsory and there was teams all the up to the F team playing on weekends which were also compulsory but a lot of people didn't enjoy this for a obvious reason, but one a whole it's alright but a bit over rated. Like others I'll give you a clue it's of the 127 route. Thats right! (the one I've put in bold) you guessed correctly
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