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Post by snowman on Apr 15, 2019 10:47:05 GMT
Thameslink have now announced they are enhancing the timetable from May Thameslink Link
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Post by snoggle on Apr 15, 2019 11:56:28 GMT
Thameslink have now announced they are enhancing the timetable from May Thameslink LinkNice to see it formally confirmed. Now all they have to do is operate it flawlessly. Quite interesting that the change from to Mr Verwer from Mr Horton has seen a rather calmer, more measured approach - at least looking in from the outside. Insiders may, of course, have a very different impression about management styles. Mr Verwer seemed to do a decent job at leading London Midland when it was under Go Ahead.
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Post by 700101 on Apr 18, 2019 17:17:08 GMT
Thameslink have now announced they are enhancing the timetable from May Thameslink LinkMore drivers have been trained to do the full longer distances routes (Bedford-Brighton/East Grinstead, Cambridge-Brighton & Peterborough-Horsham) which hopefully will reduce less driver changes at Finsbury Park & Blackfriars.
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Post by galwhv69 on May 13, 2019 6:57:42 GMT
Is the shortened Platform 3 at Streatham Hill ever used or is is just used as a siding etc ? Attachment Deleted
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Post by route53 on Jul 30, 2019 1:12:47 GMT
A few weeks ago I rode the Rainham service to try it out, it’s literally the slowest service I’ve ever ridden on! What were Thameslink thinking in making this an all stops service, seeing as it used to be semi fast, they should make this service semi fast again calling at key stations only and not meander through the farm stations of Swanscombe.
I sincerely hope GTR find a way to make this fast again.
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Post by 700101 on Jul 30, 2019 18:43:23 GMT
A few weeks ago I rode the Rainham service to try it out, it’s literally the slowest service I’ve ever ridden on! What were Thameslink thinking in making this an all stops service, seeing as it used to be semi fast, they should make this service semi fast again calling at key stations only and not meander through the farm stations of Swanscombe. I sincerely hope GTR find a way to make this fast again. The Rainham service was first proposed to go via Sidcup or Bexleyheath with the Sidcup line being the preferred choice, this didn’t happen due to timetable constraints with the Greenwich line being chosen instead. Woolwich line users would rather the ex semi-fast Charing Cross services back instead of the TL services. The timetable issues can be seen when TL services are diverted via Bexleyheath due to engineering works on the Greenwich line they stand for around 10mins outside London Bridge just so they can slot back in there booked times in to LBG
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Post by route53 on Jul 30, 2019 23:32:43 GMT
A few weeks ago I rode the Rainham service to try it out, it’s literally the slowest service I’ve ever ridden on! What were Thameslink thinking in making this an all stops service, seeing as it used to be semi fast, they should make this service semi fast again calling at key stations only and not meander through the farm stations of Swanscombe. I sincerely hope GTR find a way to make this fast again. The Rainham service was first proposed to go via Sidcup or Bexleyheath with the Sidcup line being the preferred choice, this didn’t happen due to timetable constraints with the Greenwich line being chosen instead. Woolwich line users would rather the ex semi-fast Charing Cross services back instead of the TL services. The timetable issues can be seen when TL services are diverted via Bexleyheath due to engineering works on the Greenwich line they stand for around 10mins outside London Bridge just so they can slot back in there booked times in to LBG Thameslink via the Sidcup line would make much more sense, providing Medway still maintained its North Kent line service for the CrossRail interchange at Abbey Wood and the DLR at Woolwich Arsenal, but it would mess things up for the SEML as well signalling wise I would imagine, plus the freight trains that regularly use that line would mess Thameslink up, Bexleyheath line might be better But to be honest I’m not entirely against Thameslink running on the Greenwich & NK/Woolwich lines myself, I live in Greenwich so one could say it benefits me, however you are very correct in saying that North Kent/Woolwich line users would much rather have their fasts to Charing Cross restored than Thameslink, I have a number of family and friends who live on the line and they aren’t very happy with Thameslink, I do think the timetable will be recast eventually once everything has settled down that may take a few years, and when the bosses are able fix the oddities. I think the happy medium would be if Thameslink restores the fast pattern, reroute the service to run via Blackheath & Lewisham instead, while the Greenwich line has 6tph to Cannon Street restored, the entire Greenwich & North Kent/Woolwich line set to lose Charing Cross services from 2022 allegedly, (with Deptford, Greenwich, Maze Hill and Westcombe Park having lost CX back in 2015) if this happens Thameslink might as well take over the entire North Kent/Woolwich Line, Northfleet, Swanscombe and Stone Crossing do not need 4tph and Slade Green and Plumstead certainly do not need 8tph.
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Post by 700101 on Sept 12, 2019 23:03:30 GMT
The Moorgate services are now 75% run by class 717’s now with weekend services only having a hand full of class 313’s left now
Also it’s been mentioned that the current 171’s (formerly 170’s) will be transferring to EMR in the future, haven’t heard anything at GTR about this. rumours are going around about this, it does bring to question what replacements are being sought as the Uckfield services need 10 car operations during peak time and the Ashford - Eastbourne services are at capacity during peak times. Will have to wait closer to the end of the franchise to see what’s happening.
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Post by T.R. on Sept 13, 2019 4:45:22 GMT
Also it’s been mentioned that the current 171’s (formerly 170’s) will be transferring to EMR in the future, haven’t heard anything at GTR about this. rumours are going around about this, it does bring to question what replacements are being sought as the Uckfield services need 10 car operations during peak time and the Ashford - Eastbourne services are at capacity during peak times. Will have to wait closer to the end of the franchise to see what’s happening. Rumour mill suggests batteries on 377’s or similar stock. Class 769 or Mk3 units allegedly can't be used due to clearance issues at Oxted Tunnel. Admittedly electrifying Uckfield and Marshlink lines would be much better (GTR could use 707s on Southern metro routes, thus displacing 377 to both lines), but sadly that most certainly won’t happen.
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Post by E279 on Sept 13, 2019 10:30:11 GMT
The Moorgate services are now 75% run by class 717’s now with weekend services only having a hand full of class 313’s left now Also it’s been mentioned that the current 171’s (formerly 170’s) will be transferring to EMR in the future, haven’t heard anything at GTR about this. rumours are going around about this, it does bring to question what replacements are being sought as the Uckfield services need 10 car operations during peak time and the Ashford - Eastbourne services are at capacity during peak times. Will have to wait closer to the end of the franchise to see what’s happening. Was trying to find one a few days ago and there were only 2 6 car 313s in service from what I could gather, as much as I hate the Class 315s on TFL rail, when I got one of the Class 313s after a long time since I had got one previously, I was quite disappointed in their condition and am glad the Class 717s are quickly replacing them.
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Post by TA1 on Sept 13, 2019 10:47:34 GMT
The Moorgate services are now 75% run by class 717’s now with weekend services only having a hand full of class 313’s left now Also it’s been mentioned that the current 171’s (formerly 170’s) will be transferring to EMR in the future, haven’t heard anything at GTR about this. rumours are going around about this, it does bring to question what replacements are being sought as the Uckfield services need 10 car operations during peak time and the Ashford - Eastbourne services are at capacity during peak times. Will have to wait closer to the end of the franchise to see what’s happening. Was trying to find one a few days ago and there were only 2 6 car 313s in service from what I could gather, as much as I hate the Class 315s on TFL rail, when I got one of the Class 313s after a long time since I had got one previously, I was quite disappointed in their condition and am glad the Class 717s are quickly replacing them. The TFL operated 315's LO & TFL's received overhauls in the last couple of years, whereas the GN 313's last received attention from 2006 onwards under First Capital Connect, once GTR took over there was never any funds provided to re-livery & refresh the units. Funds were only provided to keep them going until their replacements arrived, albeit very late. The 313's have had their contractual lease extended a few times to cover the gap in available 717's. All 25 717's are on the great northern network now, 001 & 022 came back from Dollands Moor earlier this week. I'm starting to enjoy driving 717's, riddled with a few faults but would still choose a 313 over 717 personally.
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Post by TA1 on Sept 25, 2019 21:36:04 GMT
As we enter our last few days with 313 operation on the GN network, On a personal note, I drove my last pair of 313’s today in passenger service, I might ask to drive on the railtour if I’m allowed.
717001 remains the only 717 unit not to of entered passenger service as of yet, it had it’s tripcocks fitted today and will go into Moorgate under test conditions tonight in preparation for it to enter revenue service and that will be it for the 313’s
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Post by richard on Sept 25, 2019 21:44:34 GMT
As we enter our last few days with 313 operation on the GN network, On a personal note, I drove my last pair of 313’s today in passenger service, I might ask to drive on the railtour if I’m allowed. 717001 remains the only 717 unit not to of entered passenger service as of yet, it had it’s tripcocks fitted today and will go into Moorgate under test conditions tonight in preparation for it to enter revenue service and that will be it for the 313’s Hopefully the 313s stay until Friday so i can travel on them for the last time
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Post by TA1 on Sept 30, 2019 7:14:39 GMT
Today is the last day of 313 operations, i've compiled the carriage workings for anyone wanting one last ride or photo's. Subject to alteration if there is service disruption, train crew availability or train fault.
313039 + 061 are currently on carriage working HE031 + 032.
5K13 06+15 Welwyn GC CSD - Welwyn GC 2K13 06:24 Welwyn GC - Moorgate 2F14 07:20 Moorgate - Watton at stone 5J42 08+28 Watton at stone - Watton at stone via Langley Junction 2J42 08:37 Watton at stone - Moorgate via Hertford North 5E21 09+45 Moorgate - Hornsey Depot
313048 + 049 are currently working HE041+042
5J15 06+22 Hertford North CHS - Hertford North 2J15 06:32 Hertford North - Moorgate 2V17 07:30 Moorgate - Welwyn GC 2K37 08:24 Welwyn GC - Moorgate 2V59 09:20 Moorgate - Welwyn GC 5I58 10+14 Welwyn GC - Welwyn GC via reversing siding 2K58 10:39 Welwyn GC - Moorgate 2F60 11:40 Moorgate - Watton-at-Stone 5J79 12+46 Watton-at-Stone - Watton-at-Stone via Langley 2J79 13:10 Watton-at-Stone - Moorgate via Hertford 2V81 14:20 Moorgate - Welwyn GC 5I10 15+24 Welwyn GC - Welwyn GC via reversing siding 2K10 15:39 Welwyn GC - Moorgate 2B11 16:40 Moorgate - Hertford North 2J32 17:37 Hertford North - Moorgate 2B35 18:25 Moorgate - Hertford North 2J51 19:30 Hertford North - Moorgate 2V53 20:30 Moorgate - Welwyn GC 2K66 21:28 Welwyn GC - Moorgate 2B68 22:25 Moorgate - Hertford North 2J83 23:33 Hertford North - Moorgate 5E44 00+33 Moorgate - Hornsey EMUD
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Post by routew15 on Oct 24, 2019 7:37:10 GMT
Major surgery for Denmark Hill station moves a step closer
Glad to see some traction on this! The peak one way system has been a flop. Ontrak staff (who acts as CSA/crowd control) are not always present and they are not on all three staircases, which leads to people going against the one system and using the old staircase to exit. Things that will work well from these plans; - Extended Station canopy - The station is currently designed to make people stay in the old parts of the platform. There is no incentive to be at the extreme ends of the platforms during bad weather. - More passenger information screens - try reading the screens from end or the platform or even the bottom of the new staircase! - Second entrance on Windsor walk - the only part of the plans that will reduce congestion. A peak hour one way system could work much more effectively with the second entrance, as you can use Windsor Walk for exit (near to the hospitals) and Champion Park for entrance (near to the bus stops) with this possibly being reversed in the evening peak. Rearranging platform furniture is an interesting one and I would like to know what that will look like. A start would be get rid of the vending machines that are hardly used. All of the above interventions need to implemented before the LO increase in frequency.
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