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Post by COBO on Nov 11, 2015 1:00:00 GMT
At last the E8 is being extended to Hounslow and is being converted to double deck. I agree with @rgd976 why can't the E8 go via London Road instead of going via West Middlesex University Hospital. As for the 110 they should turn it into a circular route.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 11, 2015 1:00:25 GMT
I don't think this is a well thought out plan. Personally , I'd have extended the 195 to West Middx Hospital and let the E8 run direct via London Road to Hounslow. The 195 is long enough as it is personally and passing through Southall's horrible traffic don't help either. I'd also question how much stand space is at the hospital?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 7:58:55 GMT
I don't think this is a well thought out plan. Personally , I'd have extended the 195 to West Middx Hospital and let the E8 run direct via London Road to Hounslow. The 195 is long enough as it is personally and passing through Southall's horrible traffic don't help either. I'd also question how much stand space is at the hospital? I admit that might be a problem ! But the 110 "extension" from Twickenham doesn't make much sense to me either. It runs parallel with the 267 from Twickenham Green. So it's giving Stanies Road , Hospital Bridge Road and Powder Mill Lane a direct link to West Middx Hospital, however the 481 serves the Whitton area with a far more direct link to the hospital.
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Post by snoggle on Nov 11, 2015 11:38:46 GMT
The 195 is long enough as it is personally and passing through Southall's horrible traffic don't help either. I'd also question how much stand space is at the hospital? I admit that might be a problem ! But the 110 "extension" from Twickenham doesn't make much sense to me either. It runs parallel with the 267 from Twickenham Green. So it's giving Stanies Road , Hospital Bridge Road and Powder Mill Lane a direct link to West Middx Hospital, however the 481 serves the Whitton area with a far more direct link to the hospital. Well all the people objecting to the 110 idea should make sure they respond to the consultation. I suspect that TfL are going to run into problems with these plans. I wonder if they've already squared off the "cut down trees" issue (for the E8 extension) with Hounslow Council. If they haven't I'd not be surprised to see locals demanding tree preservation orders and then TfL are knackered if that happens. Just had a look at Streetview - can see why a DD can't get down there but they're old, mature trees and I can see people complaining about their loss. I suspect it's far simpler just to send the E8 via the main road and accept it won't reach West Midex Hosp front door. Just looking on Streetview at Wood Lane it looks like TfL are adandoning a very long section where there is fairly dense housing which I find a real surprise. The top end of Syon Lane just has a golf club on it - why serve it? If they need to serve the area where Sky TV is then extend on from Tescos? If the level crossing is really problematic then use some of the cash sloshing around to fund this scheme to provide a more effective schedule. If they have to do something with the 110 then send it via an alternative route to improve coverage at the Twickenham end of things as I've previously suggested.
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Post by sid on Nov 11, 2015 11:54:21 GMT
I really cannot see Amhurst Gardens being deemed suitable for the E8, wouldn't a double run along Twickenham Road to and from the hospital be more realistic?
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Post by ServerKing on Nov 11, 2015 12:55:13 GMT
I really cannot see Amhurst Gardens being deemed suitable for the E8, wouldn't a double run along Twickenham Road to and from the hospital be more realistic? I guess that's the only sensible road to get back to London Road from the hospital on. It is fairly wide, and the H28 runs along it at the moment. Consultation papers have been posted out in Twickenham already, but more talking like it's a done deal. When do these changes start?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2015 17:31:05 GMT
If they have to remove that hounslow to WMH i rather they extend 110 to southall and extend 120 to harrow (through the same way as 140), while adding frequency to 117, 267 and 481 to give more coverage to different areas.
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Post by planesandtrains on Nov 27, 2015 18:32:13 GMT
If they have to remove that hounslow to WMH i rather they extend 110 to southall and extend 120 to harrow (through the same way as 140), while adding frequency to 117, 267 and 481 to give more coverage to different areas. I were rather they extended the 110 down richmond road, turning left at Camebridge Park (as opposed to right which ends you up in Richmond) then follow the H37 up untill Isleworth War memorial then join the 267. Basically almost like a 267 diversion during Rugby. Would create many more links to the hospital.
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Post by deppy42 on Nov 27, 2015 20:21:51 GMT
If they have to remove that hounslow to WMH i rather they extend 110 to southall and extend 120 to harrow (through the same way as 140), while adding frequency to 117, 267 and 481 to give more coverage to different areas. I were rather they extended the 110 down richmond road, turning left at Camebridge Park (as opposed to right which ends you up in Richmond) then follow the H37 up untill Isleworth War memorial then join the 267. Basically almost like a 267 diversion during Rugby. Would create many more links to the hospital. This is quite a good suggestion. Would take some pressure of the H37 too...
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Post by planesandtrains on Nov 28, 2015 10:52:58 GMT
I were rather they extended the 110 down richmond road, turning left at Camebridge Park (as opposed to right which ends you up in Richmond) then follow the H37 up untill Isleworth War memorial then join the 267. Basically almost like a 267 diversion during Rugby. Would create many more links to the hospital. This is quite a good suggestion. Would take some pressure of the H37 too... The odd double deck workings would also really help ease the morning school rush in the Twickenham Green area- most days the 490 and H22 are rammed full up until East Twickenham.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 11:32:28 GMT
I were rather they extended the 110 down richmond road, turning left at Camebridge Park (as opposed to right which ends you up in Richmond) then follow the H37 up untill Isleworth War memorial then join the 267. Basically almost like a 267 diversion during Rugby. Would create many more links to the hospital. This is quite a good suggestion. Would take some pressure of the H37 too... That is a good suggestion actually. Would give a new link to the hospital from St Margaret's and assist the H37. Also think it needs to be x15mins. Having them go via 267 seems a wasteful duplication for very little objective.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 11:39:21 GMT
If they have to remove that hounslow to WMH i rather they extend 110 to southall and extend 120 to harrow (through the same way as 140), while adding frequency to 117, 267 and 481 to give more coverage to different areas. Not sure about the 120 , it needs a frequency increase anyway so i would rather just that as opposed to an extension. 117 - no reason why that cant be operated using 12m Citaros at existing frequency. 267 - Would support a frequency increase but would rather it just get extended back to Hampton Court with revisions to the R68.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2015 18:13:26 GMT
If they have to remove that hounslow to WMH i rather they extend 110 to southall and extend 120 to harrow (through the same way as 140), while adding frequency to 117, 267 and 481 to give more coverage to different areas. Not sure about the 120 , it needs a frequency increase anyway so i would rather just that as opposed to an extension. 117 - no reason why that cant be operated using 12m Citaros at existing frequency. 267 - Would support a frequency increase but would rather it just get extended back to Hampton Court with revisions to the R68. The idea of extending 120 is to create a link from harrow and hounslow, so having 110 extend to southall given they withdrew the part between middlesex to hounslow will give a help benefit from the overload on the 120, which could also be given a frequency boost. Have 117 transfer a bus type also works well.
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Post by vjaska on Nov 28, 2015 23:07:35 GMT
Not sure about the 120 , it needs a frequency increase anyway so i would rather just that as opposed to an extension. 117 - no reason why that cant be operated using 12m Citaros at existing frequency. 267 - Would support a frequency increase but would rather it just get extended back to Hampton Court with revisions to the R68. The idea of extending 120 is to create a link from harrow and hounslow, so having 110 extend to southall given they withdrew the part between middlesex to hounslow will give a help benefit from the overload on the 120, which could also be given a frequency boost. Have 117 transfer a bus type also works well. Although the Hounslow to West Middlesex Hospital section would be withdrawn but it's being extended to West Middlesex Hospital from Twickenham so there won't be much reliability saving. I'd prefer a new route between Hounslow & Harrow rather than extending the already pressured 120 - the new route would also give help to the 120.
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Post by snoggle on Nov 29, 2015 0:19:08 GMT
I'd prefer a new route between Hounslow & Harrow rather than extending the already pressured 120 - the new route would also give help to the 120. New routes would be the answer in a number of situations that TfL is causing as a result of its consultations. Makes me wonder what the issue is and why wielding a machete to existing routes is suddenly in vogue after years when the policy was discredited.
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