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Post by snoggle on Mar 18, 2016 17:21:05 GMT
An interesting update on the Liverpool St Crossrail station. I still think they're running late at the Liv St end of the station.
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Post by routew15 on Apr 30, 2016 22:40:13 GMT
Crossrail question here. One thing I love about late travelling through Liverpool Street and Stratford is seeing c2c service out to Essex. Will these services be retained whilst the Liverpool Street upper platforms are modified and once the Crossrail services get into full service?
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Post by snoggle on May 1, 2016 9:00:48 GMT
Crossrail question here. One thing I love about late travelling through Liverpool Street and Stratford is seeing c2c service out to Essex. Will these services be retained whilst the Liverpool Street upper platforms are modified and once the Crossrail services get into full service? At this stage it's hard to say for certain. The saving grace is that C2C run in at quiet times so platform availability should not be a big issue. Also worth noting that only one platform is lost at LST post Crossrail mods and Crossrail will only run in in the peaks thus no conflict with C2C services.
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Post by john on May 1, 2016 17:20:31 GMT
Crossrail question here. One thing I love about late travelling through Liverpool Street and Stratford is seeing c2c service out to Essex. Will these services be retained whilst the Liverpool Street upper platforms are modified and once the Crossrail services get into full service? At this stage it's hard to say for certain. The saving grace is that C2C run in at quiet times so platform availability should not be a big issue. Also worth noting that only one platform is lost at LST post Crossrail mods and Crossrail will only run in in the peaks thus no conflict with C2C services. Hopefully. I know c2c like to run weekend services in the run up to Christmas via Stratford for Westfield although aren't they due to do that on a more regular basis anyway? Or have they already started. As a c2c user when going into town, it abit of a pain if I'm honest as, not gonna lie, I forget if I have to go to Liverpool St or Fenchurch St when I've had a few!
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Post by snowman on May 2, 2016 11:58:17 GMT
An interesting update on the Liverpool St Crossrail station. I still think they're running late at the Liv St end of the station. The two main areas now happening are the access shafts, Liverpool Street one should be done soon into ticket hall Bloomfield Street access tunnelMoorgate one continues until summer Moorgate shaftThe latest view is here, and since that video can see that some of the concrete beams that form the roof of escalator shaft have gone in. The reinforcing bars are going in, and once concreted can be backfilled. Current views I'm guessing sections of the escalators will be lowered in before final capping of the hole. As soon as that hole is capped, can start to reinstate the area as a lot of the fitting out can take place after the shell has been finished. If a station is running late, my money would be on Whitechapel. All the others seem to have virtually finished station shells, at least below ground level. Of course some final passageways need finishing and the steelwork for surface buildings needs to go in. But I think the amount of work outstanding might not be too bad.
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Post by snoggle on May 2, 2016 12:41:56 GMT
An interesting update on the Liverpool St Crossrail station. I still think they're running late at the Liv St end of the station. The two main areas now happening are the access shafts, Liverpool Street one should be done soon into ticket hall Bloomfield Street access tunnelMoorgate one continues until summer Moorgate shaftThe latest view is here, and since that video can see that some of the concrete beams that form the roof of escalator shaft have gone in. The reinforcing bars are going in, and once concreted can be backfilled. Current views I'm guessing sections of the escalators will be lowered in before final capping of the hole. As soon as that hole is capped, can start to reinstate the area as a lot of the fitting out can take place after the shell has been finished. If a station is running late, my money would be on Whitechapel. All the others seem to have virtually finished station shells, at least below ground level. Of course some final passageways need finishing and the steelwork for surface buildings needs to go in. But I think the amount of work outstanding might not be too bad. Thanks. I actually happened to be at Liverpool St on Saturday and walked past the worksite. One or two of the "windows" in the hoardings were not completely covered over (why put a window in if you allow the workers to cover them up??? ) so I could see that much of the "hole" was now being covered up. As you say the escalator shaft position is rather obvious and more rebar work was underway. The size of the metal girders that prop up the road in front of Broadgate were pretty impressive. I still think they're going to have to "put their foot down" to get the place fitted out and tested for handover to LU. I've not been to Whitechapel recently but Crossrail tweeted some photos showing the progress of the deck and ticket hall structure over the Overground tracks. I suspect the Crossrail platforms and escalator shaft might be further ahead as they're not reliant on possessions to make progress. I see from the TfL closures page [1] that there are lots more weekend closures of the Overground through Whitechapel in June, a week long closure in August and then more weekend closures. I assume all of this is to complete the over track deck and get the ticket hall structure in place. [1] TfL have moved the page YET AGAIN on their website. Given its importance you'd think they would keep in the same location and stop faffing around.
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Post by snowman on Dec 9, 2016 13:48:52 GMT
Another new article on this station 9th December 2016 (exactly 2 years before opening 9th December 2018) Liverpool Street 2 years before openingThe last part of the tunnelling here is the lower escalator shaft (Moorgate end) which should be finished by March. Fit out works have already commenced and bulk of works should be done by end 2017 to allow commissioning and testing. Also more tracks are now electrified in the West Crossrail article
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Post by snoggle on Dec 9, 2016 14:25:57 GMT
Another new article on this station 9th December 2016 (exactly 2 years before opening 9th December 2018) Liverpool Street 2 years before openingThe last part of the tunnelling here is the lower escalator shaft (Moorgate end) which should be finished by March. Fit out works have already commenced and bulk of works should be done by end 2017 to allow commissioning and testing. Also more tracks are now electrified in the West Crossrail articleInteresting but I still think the Moorgate to Whitechapel section is behind schedule. The working methods at Whitechapel have had to be redesigned to try to raise productivity because work on the station is behind schedule although such a blunt statement hasn't quite been publicly. You need to read between the lines. I also think both Liv St and Moorgate are somewhat late. There is an enormous amount of work left in terms of fit out in such a large integrated complex. I also note in the latest Commissioner's report that two trade unions have started a campaign for a "productivity bonus". This is the same old trick that was used to hold LU to ransom over the "must complete" deadline date for the JLE opening between Westminster and the Dome in 1999. Hopefully Crossrail have pre-empted this nonsense and will sit on their contractors and subbies to stop the electricians and others "going slow" to deliberately create a need for extra work at higher rates in order to be ready in time. This is the problem with highly publicised programme dates known long in advance - people play stupid tricks to gain financial advantage.
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Post by snowman on Dec 15, 2016 11:50:54 GMT
Interesting but I still think the Moorgate to Whitechapel section is behind schedule. The working methods at Whitechapel have had to be redesigned to try to raise productivity because work on the station is behind schedule although such a blunt statement hasn't quite been publicly. You need to read between the lines. I also think both Liv St and Moorgate are somewhat late. There is an enormous amount of work left in terms of fit out in such a large integrated complex. I also note in the latest Commissioner's report that two trade unions have started a campaign for a "productivity bonus". This is the same old trick that was used to hold LU to ransom over the "must complete" deadline date for the JLE opening between Westminster and the Dome in 1999. Hopefully Crossrail have pre-empted this nonsense and will sit on their contractors and subbies to stop the electricians and others "going slow" to deliberately create a need for extra work at higher rates in order to be ready in time. This is the problem with highly publicised programme dates known long in advance - people play stupid tricks to gain financial advantage. Electric work at Paddington Suspended
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Post by T.R. on Feb 15, 2017 18:14:35 GMT
345002 on test at Liverpool Street. (Post on Skyscraper City)
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Post by John tuthill on Feb 15, 2017 19:18:53 GMT
345002 on test at Liverpool Street. (Post on Skyscraper City) Why no yellow on the front?
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Post by T.R. on Feb 15, 2017 19:25:49 GMT
345002 on test at Liverpool Street. (Post on Skyscraper City) Why no yellow on the front? Long story short, a change in regulations - if the headlights are bright enough then the yellow front is no longer needed. There's a fuller explanation somewhere but I can't find it at the moment. The incoming class 710 for London Overground will also not have a yellow front.
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Post by John tuthill on Feb 15, 2017 19:27:35 GMT
Why no yellow on the front? Long story short, if the headlights are bright enough then the yellow front is no longer needed. There's an explanation somewhere but I can't find it at the moment. The incoming class 710 for London Overground will also not have a yellow front. Thanks for that.
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Post by T.R. on Mar 17, 2017 18:35:40 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Mar 18, 2017 11:03:16 GMT
Well at least they sound reasonably quiet rather than like a Siemens "spaceship on acid" unit.
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