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Post by snoggle on May 12, 2016 20:20:11 GMT
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Post by routew15 on May 13, 2016 14:55:29 GMT
Good link snoggle!
Tottenham Court Road — The platforms seem to never end in the pictures. Farringdon — i don't really understand how Barbican Underground links into Farringdon Crossrail. Is it via streetlevel or direct via the Westbound sub-surface platform?
Liverpool Street/Moorgate — I really like the station design. It is good to see the space is being used sensibly by installing an inclinator, I hope these lifts are not as troublesome as the Greenford one has been. It's a shame there is no direct link to Liverpool Street mainline station. Whitechapel — The station I wouldn't to know more about has the least photos which is very annoying, if they have an open house at Whitechapel this year I'm going to make every effort to be there  Canary Wharf — an impressive station really like the exterior effort made to make it look like a docked ship. I think more should of been done to make the vents at the end of the station more discreet. Custom House — disappointing station. How is this station going to manage the large crowds that attend Excel with just two escalators and two staircases? Woolwich — an impressive station very detailed in design one station I really am looking forward to travelling to. Abbey Wood — looks good very much emulates a string-ray or something along those lines. One station I want to see more details for is Ilford. Every view that I have seen out there, crops out the station enterance.
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Post by snoggle on May 13, 2016 15:27:48 GMT
Good link snoggle !
Tottenham Court Road — The platforms seem to never end in the pictures. Farringdon — i don't really understand how Barbican Underground links into Farringdon Crossrail. Is it via streetlevel or direct via the Westbound sub-surface platform?
Liverpool Street/Moorgate — I really like the station design. It is good to see the space is being used sensibly by installing an inclinator, I hope these lifts are not as troublesome as the Greenford one has been. It's a shame there is no direct link to Liverpool Street mainline station. Whitechapel — The station I wouldn't to know more about has the least photos which is very annoying, if they have an open house at Whitechapel this year I'm going to make every effort to be there Canary Wharf — an impressive station really like the exterior effort made to make it look like a docked ship. I think more should of been done to make the vents at the end of the station more discreet. Custom House — disappointing station. How is this station going to manage the large crowds that attend Excel with just two escalators and two staircases? Woolwich — an impressive station very detailed in design one station I really am looking forward to travelling to. Abbey Wood — looks good very much emulates a string-ray or something along those lines. One station I want to see more details for is Ilford. Every view that I have seen out there, crops out the station enterance. Farringdon - the link to Barbican is not a high capacity link. Having spent too many hours reading the plans there are lifts and stairs at the west end of the Met / Circle platforms that rise up to a footbridge over the tracks. This is where the old signal box was. The link then moves into the structure of the new Crossrail station but there is only a lift down to Crossrail platform level. I *might* be wrong about that but the plans are not easy to follow. When I visited the Crossrail site at Farringdon we actually stood above the area where the link will be - we could look down on the Met Line tracks. 
Crossrail Farringdon Eastern ticket hall site [1] by plcd1, on Flickr 
Crossrail Farringdon Eastern ticket hall site [3] by plcd1, on Flickr The assumption, I think, is that most people will change at Farringdon or Liverpool St / Moorgate. There is a linking corridor at Crossrail Liv St into the lower circulating corridors which serve the peak hour Central line ticket hall (Hall D IIRC). This has stairs up to both the WAML and GAML platform groups. You certainly don't have to exit Crossrail to the street and then go back down into the Main Line station. I too would have liked to see more about Whitechapel as I think some aspects of the design have changed. Again I've ploughed through the Planning Application details many times. Whitechapel in essence has a massive long concourse over the overground tracks. It actually dips down part way along and the Crossrail escalators are reached at the north end of this link. There are steps and lifts down to the overground tracks from the concourse. As you can see in one of the images there is a wide corridor and stairs to the left of the concourse beyond the gateline. These lead down to the District / H&C platform. I think there is also a new low level subway from the District platforms under the Overground tracks to give access to the southbound Overground tracks. The existing corridor to the Northbound platform is retained. You can, of course, visit quite a lot of Canary Wharf already as the shopping and roof garden levels are open. I visited CW when they had Open House - very interesting to see inside it. 
Crossrail Canary Wharf - platform level [2] by plcd1, on Flickr 
Crossrail Canary Wharf - ticket hall [1] by plcd1, on Flickr The thing that is striking about Woolwich is how incredibly basic it is. Shows that it was just a box and is being fitted out as cheaply as possible. No double ending at that station and no fancy ticket hall. Abbey Wood is proceeding at a heck of a pace. I've not been there myself recently but I've seen plenty of photos. It's like a gigantic Lego set. |
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Post by routew15 on Jun 14, 2016 7:56:37 GMT
snoggle the photos on your Flickr of the 3D model of Whitechapel station provide real clarity to what the station shall look like and where you will go for what service, many thanks for that! From the easterly end of the Eastbound sub-surface platform the station currently shares the skeleton look of the 3D model. As daily user of Whitechapel I often find my head looking upwards at the grey crisscrosses of steel to see what has changed or been added. I hope by 2018/19 I still need to use the station because I will most probably switch from the slow District/H'smith & city line to Crossrail, which would position me perfectly over the Overground  I do note one potential design flaw from the new station, below on the Overground platform there is potential for pigeons to nest on the beams and leave dropping below on passengers and trains
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Post by snoggle on Jun 14, 2016 10:57:29 GMT
snoggle the photos on your Flickr of the 3D model of Whitechapel station provide real clarity to what the station shall look like and where you will go for what service, many thanks for that! From the easterly end of the Eastbound sub-surface platform the station currently shares the skeleton look of the 3D model. As daily user of Whitechapel I often find my head looking upwards at the grey crisscrosses of steel to see what has changed or been added. I hope by 2018/19 I still need to use the station because I will most probably switch from the slow District/H'smith & city line to Crossrail, which would position me perfectly over the Overground I do note one potential design flaw from the new station, below on the Overground platform there is potential for pigeons to nest on the beams and leave dropping below on passengers and trains Thanks for the kind comments. Whitechapel has been the hardest station to understand from the planning application docs. Most of the rest are easy but really knowing how the passenger flows will work on the stepped concourse has been a struggle. As I said in the comments under the photos I still don't quite understand how District - ELL interchange will work but I haven't used Whitechapel in many months so I probably need to take a look. Those models helped me a great deal - worth going to the exhibition just for that. |
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Post by routew15 on Jun 29, 2016 18:33:11 GMT
Fancy a virtual tour of a handful of the Crossrail stations?
Check out the Elizabeth Line stations at Abbey Wood, Woolwich, Liverpool Street, Tottenham Court Road and Paddington from Street Level to Platform Level.
Must say the journey from street to train at Liverpool Street looks particularly long, I think Lord Adonis could be on to something...
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Post by snoggle on Jun 29, 2016 19:52:46 GMT
Fancy a virtual tour of a handful of the Crossrail stations? Check out the Elizabeth Line stations at Abbey Wood, Woolwich, Liverpool Street, Tottenham Court Road and Paddington from Street Level to Platform Level. Must say the journey from street to train at Liverpool Street looks particularly long, I think Lord Adonis could be on to something... Shame there wasn't a video for Whitechapel.  Clearly some stations are very deep hence the double escalator flights. As I've said several times before I think people have no real idea how long entry and egress times are going to be at some locations especially if you board at the "wrong" place on the train and have a 200m schlep before even seeing an up escalator. |
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Post by routew15 on Jul 4, 2016 18:53:15 GMT
Fancy a virtual tour of a handful of the Crossrail stations? Check out the Elizabeth Line stations at Abbey Wood, Woolwich, Liverpool Street, Tottenham Court Road and Paddington from Street Level to Platform Level. Must say the journey from street to train at Liverpool Street looks particularly long, I think Lord Adonis could be on to something... So the original video has been removed and has today been reposted however the one major change is the journey to the Liverpool Street platform has been cut! The video now only show the journey to the bottom of the escalator/incilnator. I hope it wasn't something I said (Just when I was about to comment on the long escalators at TCR  )
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Post by snowman on Sept 23, 2016 12:33:53 GMT
Crossrail has announced that Farrington station ceilings will be installed soon. The Eastern ticket hall will be cast as one very long pour (pumped concrete) on Saturday 8th October (the only way to do it to give the brutalist look to match nearby Barbican). The other ticket hall roof will have diamond patterns (to reflect nearby Hatton Gardens) and is 102 pieces cast off-site in Derbyshire. The temporary supporting props can be seen in the photo gallery (image 5) sloping up towards Thameslink ticket hall. The large roof of Liverpool Street (which becomes road surface) has also progressed with temporary surface (where the crawler crane currently is) being cut back in sections and the concrete panels being added which form base of reinforced concrete slab (image 7) photo gallery |
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Clearly some stations are very deep hence the double escalator flights. As I've said several times before I think people have no real idea how long entry and egress times are going to be at some locations especially if you board at the "wrong" place on the train and have a 200m schlep before even seeing an up escalator.
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