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Post by snowman on Jun 28, 2017 10:24:50 GMT
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Post by snowman on Nov 30, 2017 11:47:00 GMT
Consultation now out on ULEZ expansion Buses, coaches and lorries Londonwide from 26 October 2020 Cars, vans, motorbikes to North and South circular from 25 October 2021 Link to press release Link to consultation
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Post by SILENCED on Nov 30, 2017 13:54:11 GMT
Consultation now out on ULEZ expansion Buses, coaches and lorries Londonwide from 26 October 2020 Cars, vans, motorbikes to North and South circular from 25 October 2021 Link to press release Link to consultation Does get my goat this ... why is there not a move to remove fossil fuels from domestic and commercial properties and replaced with all electric .... log burners are the worst, coal then gas ...
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Post by busman on Nov 30, 2017 23:38:24 GMT
Consultation now out on ULEZ expansion Buses, coaches and lorries Londonwide from 26 October 2020 Cars, vans, motorbikes to North and South circular from 25 October 2021 Link to press release Link to consultation Does get my goat this ... why is there not a move to remove fossil fuels from domestic and commercial properties and replaced with all electric .... log burners are the worst, coal then gas ... Scale of impact. Not many people in London are burning logs with smoke pouring out of chimneys. Vehicle emissions on the other hand are a much bigger source of pollution. What gets my goat is how we generate our energy. I would eventually like to see the UK’s electricity generated 100% by renewables (with the exception of Geothermal Energy). At that point electric vehicles will offer a much cleaner footprint.
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Post by SILENCED on Dec 1, 2017 1:30:03 GMT
Does get my goat this ... why is there not a move to remove fossil fuels from domestic and commercial properties and replaced with all electric .... log burners are the worst, coal then gas ... Scale of impact. Not many people in London are burning logs with smoke pouring out of chimneys. Vehicle emissions on the other hand are a much bigger source of pollution. What gets my goat is how we generate our energy. I would eventually like to see the UK’s electricity generated 100% by renewables (with the exception of Geothermal Energy). At that point electric vehicles will offer a much cleaner footprint. Do you need smoke ... cars do not smoke ... but you say they produce pollution. Think you need to check facts on logs burner pollution. www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/sep/29/air-pollution-sadiq-khan-calls-for-ban-on-wood-burning-stovesHow big a scale do you want? " It is estimated that between a quarter and a third of all of London’s fine-particle pollution comes from domestic wood burning." But seems you would rather blame it all on the motor vehicles ... but electric motor vehicles will not stop the pollution of the log burners. One log burner produces far more harmful emissions than even a Euro2 vehicle!
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Post by SILENCED on Dec 1, 2017 23:06:08 GMT
Scale of impact. Not many people in London are burning logs with smoke pouring out of chimneys. Vehicle emissions on the other hand are a much bigger source of pollution. What gets my goat is how we generate our energy. I would eventually like to see the UK’s electricity generated 100% by renewables (with the exception of Geothermal Energy). At that point electric vehicles will offer a much cleaner footprint. Do you need smoke ... cars do not smoke ... but you say they produce pollution. Think you need to check facts on logs burner pollution. www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/sep/29/air-pollution-sadiq-khan-calls-for-ban-on-wood-burning-stovesHow big a scale do you want? " It is estimated that between a quarter and a third of all of London’s fine-particle pollution comes from domestic wood burning." But seems you would rather blame it all on the motor vehicles ... but electric motor vehicles will not stop the pollution of the log burners. One log burner produces far more harmful emissions than even a Euro2 vehicle! I am kind of guessing you have reassessed your position on the subject of log burners?
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Post by busman on Dec 2, 2017 19:11:48 GMT
Do you need smoke ... cars do not smoke ... but you say they produce pollution. Think you need to check facts on logs burner pollution. www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/sep/29/air-pollution-sadiq-khan-calls-for-ban-on-wood-burning-stovesHow big a scale do you want? " It is estimated that between a quarter and a third of all of London’s fine-particle pollution comes from domestic wood burning." But seems you would rather blame it all on the motor vehicles ... but electric motor vehicles will not stop the pollution of the log burners. One log burner produces far more harmful emissions than even a Euro2 vehicle! I am kind of guessing you have reassessed your position on the subject of log burners? What was my position on log burners? I think you have made some assumptions and read something that wasn’t there. I wasn’t suggesting that nothing should be done about log burning stoves/heaters. The fact is that vehicles are the biggest local source of pollution - in this context small particular emissions, pm2.5. According to TfL’s latest report more than 50% of local emissions are from vehicles: files.datapress.com/london/dataset/pm2-5-map-and-exposure-data/2017-10-25T12:29:22.42/PM2.5%20summary%20FINAL_v2.pdfThat’s not to say that ALL pollution comes from motor vehicles, but it’s a significant portion. If you care about air quality, I’m sure you’ll agree that something has to be done to reduce pm2.5 emissions from vehicles. Whether that is done by reducing journey volume by the worst offending vehicles or by incentivising a switch to less polluting ones is a matter of debate. I trust that your not one of those people that thinks that absolutely nothing should be done reduce harmful emissions from vehicles. Reading your animated responses I can see that emissions from log burners is an issue close to your heart. I didn’t realise that a log burner produces more/more harmful emissions than a Euro 2 vehicle. You will be pleased to know that it appears the MoL want to bring in legislation to clamp down on log burning stoves. He would like to do something about that issue, but those powers are not yet devolved to the Mayor: www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sadiq-khan-ban-wood-burning-stoves-london-air-pollution-fires-mayor-smog-a7973576.htmlIdeally London should have measures in place to tackle harmful emissions whatever the source.
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Post by ServerKing on Dec 2, 2017 19:21:19 GMT
Dammit I need to move to Enfield where I am just outside of the North Circular I just wonder where all this money is coming from, I have a Euro5 car, already with stop / start like the buses on the 235, and now this?! He will anger the taxi drivers even more, as most vehicles are expensive to replace. I guess he is trying to claw back money to pay for West Ham United and their ground, or the other hare brained schemes like the cycle lanes which have added to the pollution.
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Post by snowman on Dec 12, 2017 12:32:38 GMT
Second LEZ corridor (Brixton) has now officially gone live Press Release LinkClaire Mann (TfL Director of Bus Operations) says she is excited according to press release. There is a list of the 12 schemes (with side roads named to show the limits) in the link.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 12, 2017 12:57:12 GMT
Second LEZ corridor (Brixton) has now officially gone live Press Release LinkClaire Mann (TfL Director of Bus Operations) says she is excited according to press release. There is a list of the 12 schemes (with side roads named to show the limits) in the link. Not only was it delivered late twice (original date was September, then October) but there is still non compliant vehicles running through the corridor (the 196 is fully Euro IV E today whilst a Dart is on the P4 today). Furthermore, you have the farcical situation of the 37 & P5 being exempt due to only running along a tiny section of the corridor in one direction - if it going to be done, do it properly or don’t bother at all. I still they’re still using that vague descriptive list - the Brixton corridor runs from the Brixton Road/Camberwell New Road junction to St Leonard’s Church. As far as I’m aware, Stockwell Road is not part of the corridor which should in theory mean the 345 is exempt as it only crosses over the corridor at Brixton Police Station rather than running along it.
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Post by southlondonbus on Dec 12, 2017 18:49:26 GMT
The 37 I'm sure in time will get the upgrade anyways as it starts a new contract next year and with 5 to 7 years to run its probably worthwhile upgrading the WVLs from the 171 for it.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 12, 2017 21:22:22 GMT
The 37 I'm sure in time will get the upgrade anyways as it starts a new contract next year and with 5 to 7 years to run its probably worthwhile upgrading the WVLs from the 171 for it. It will only be upgraded if the ULEZ gets extended Londonwide or if Kahn gets pressured to actually implement the corridor properly rather than its current half-arsed attempt.
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Post by M1104 on Dec 13, 2017 10:42:59 GMT
I was wondering why the 196 don't swap bus types with the 155 until Abellio take over the former. I'm guessing perhaps blindsets issues where the Es and WHVs have different[1] blind mechanisms and hence can't swap over....that or potemtial issues with the WHVs themselves along the 196, perhaps in relation to its rear overhang.
[1] - those Es are manual wind
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Post by rhys on Dec 13, 2017 11:25:07 GMT
that or potemtial issues with the WHVs themselves along the 196, perhaps in relation to its rear overhang. [1] - those Es are manual wind I doubt there is any issue. WHV's (Gemini 2's) have appeared on the 196 a few times, when the 19 was at SW.
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Post by M1104 on Dec 13, 2017 11:42:53 GMT
that or potemtial issues with the WHVs themselves along the 196, perhaps in relation to its rear overhang. [1] - those Es are manual wind I doubt there is any issue. WHV's (Gemini 2's) have appeared on the 196 a few times, when the 19 was at SW. Ok, I wasn't sure whether the newer shape ones differed much in dimensions.
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