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Post by vjaska on Mar 12, 2019 19:20:08 GMT
Watching Theresa May struggle like a Tottenham DW with choked Adblue Injectors... the 'losing voice' thing only works once, no sympathy this time... Did she pack a coat when she ran off to Strasbourg last night to beg? Perhaps it's a nasty cold she caught As much as I don’t like her, I don’t blame her fully for this - I blame all the politicians who rather than sit down and thrash out an agreement between them, have just continued pursuing their own agendas but also I blame the EU who have shown just how much they valued us by holding us to ransom and partly pushing us towards an awful no deal and who continue to be ignorant that they somehow won’t be affected at all.
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Post by sid on Mar 12, 2019 19:47:11 GMT
No great surprise what happened tonight and surely no deal is now the default position otherwise democracy in this country is dead and buried.
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Post by ServerKing on Mar 12, 2019 20:40:53 GMT
Watching Theresa May struggle like a Tottenham DW with choked Adblue Injectors... the 'losing voice' thing only works once, no sympathy this time... Did she pack a coat when she ran off to Strasbourg last night to beg? Perhaps it's a nasty cold she caught As much as I don’t like her, I don’t blame her fully for this - I blame all the politicians who rather than sit down and thrash out an agreement between them, have just continued pursuing their own agendas but also I blame the EU who have shown just how much they valued us by holding us to ransom and partly pushing us towards an awful no deal and who continue to be ignorant that they somehow won’t be affected at all. It's gone to deadlock and the public vote... I wish I was talking about X Factor but it's Brex Factor on the BBC Parliament feed... Daily Fail shows May won't have any final dashes in the Jag to Brussels... for now www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6800993/Mays-chance-Brexit-deal-killed-MPs-vote-second-time.htmlSadly this isn't one of my photoshops, guys The super rich who don't give a d*mn about the rest of us won't be the ones suffering at Faro airport as they shuffle towards their Easyjet home because of extended checks for non EU passengers (us), or price hikes for car hire, or even buying regular food at the shops as the supply chain gets more complex due to impossible lead times or tariffs... Painful truth is some, not all had prejudice in their Brexit vote, not wanting more migrants, but failing to clock on it's the migrants doing the sugar beet picking in Norfolk and placee, or working long shifts in hospital. Although it is easy to pick on Baby Boomers who wanted Johnny Foreigner gone as part of "taking back control" they didn't realise the other economic ramifications of such a choice. With days to go and the reality of our choice, will people choose to leave things as they are? They don't want No Deal, but hate the Same Deal Theresa Maybe keeps returning with... it's like asking the cashier at Iceland to try the same debit card one last time despite it being declined twice before We need a popcorn emoji here
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2019 20:41:19 GMT
One big set up. MPs won't vote for No Deal. This is just going to drag on and on for years.
All this people vote talk makes me laugh if the referendum result had gone the other way people would be told just except it.
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Post by vjaska on Mar 12, 2019 21:17:18 GMT
No great surprise what happened tonight and surely no deal is now the default position otherwise democracy in this country is dead and buried. Either way we're screwed - we either accept an awful no deal situation or we accept a democracy killing situation with a second referendum. There will no winners except for politicians egos & agendas.
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Post by busaholic on Mar 12, 2019 21:34:48 GMT
As much as I don’t like her, I don’t blame her fully for this - I blame all the politicians who rather than sit down and thrash out an agreement between them, have just continued pursuing their own agendas but also I blame the EU who have shown just how much they valued us by holding us to ransom and partly pushing us towards an awful no deal and who continue to be ignorant that they somehow won’t be affected at all. It's gone to deadlock and the public vote... I wish I was talking about X Factor but it's Brex Factor on the BBC Parliament feed... Daily Fail shows May won't have any final dashes in the Jag to Brussels... for now www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6800993/Mays-chance-Brexit-deal-killed-MPs-vote-second-time.htmlSadly this isn't one of my photoshops, guys The super rich who don't give a d*mn about the rest of us won't be the ones suffering at Faro airport as they shuffle towards their Easyjet home because of extended checks for non EU passengers (us), or price hikes for car hire, or even buying regular food at the shops as the supply chain gets more complex due to impossible lead times or tariffs... Painful truth is some, not all had prejudice in their Brexit vote, not wanting more migrants, but failing to clock on it's the migrants doing the sugar beet picking in Norfolk and placee, or working long shifts in hospital. Although it is easy to pick on Baby Boomers who wanted Johnny Foreigner gone as part of "taking back control" they didn't realise the other economic ramifications of such a choice. With days to go and the reality of our choice, will people choose to leave things as they are? They don't want No Deal, but hate the Same Deal Theresa Maybe keeps returning with... it's like asking the cashier at Iceland to try the same debit card one last time despite it being declined twice before We need a popcorn emoji here As a Baby Boomer (couldn't get into primary school til I was six, as class sizes were restricted to fifty max ) i voted remain, as did most of my friends and acquaintances of much the same age, not all middle class and/or well-off either . Where I live, which voted Leave, there are people campaigning for a second referendum with stalls and placards, and not one of the many stalwarts behind it is younger than my 70. It was the apathetic young who thought 'oh, yeah, we'd better remain but I can't be bothered to get off my arse and vote' who cost Remain victory!
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Post by ServerKing on Mar 12, 2019 21:58:10 GMT
No great surprise what happened tonight and surely no deal is now the default position otherwise democracy in this country is dead and buried. Either way we're screwed - we either accept an awful no deal situation or we accept a democracy killing situation with a second referendum. There will no winners except for politicians egos & agendas. Democracy has been dead in this country for years... Political parties mzke the right noises to fool the people, once in power, most of what they promise is quietly canned. No political party will deliver the will of the people if it is financial suicide such as a No Deal scenario is. When Gove and Johnson were shown to have lied about the NHS money and other things in the Referendum, that should have been the catalyst to pull the plug on was then a non binding idea, before foolishly being enshrined in law. Brexit and its promises can be summed up well enough...
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Post by snoggle on Mar 12, 2019 22:12:06 GMT
As much as I don’t like her, I don’t blame her fully for this - I blame all the politicians who rather than sit down and thrash out an agreement between them, have just continued pursuing their own agendas but also I blame the EU who have shown just how much they valued us by holding us to ransom and partly pushing us towards an awful no deal and who continue to be ignorant that they somehow won’t be affected at all. She's in charge. She deserves every ounce of blame for this disaster. - she went for a General Election that washed away her majority - she tied herself to the most reactionary, pathetic political party in Britain. - she decided a non binding referendum result was binding. - the referendum campaign was perverted by illegal funding and external political intereference from Russia and elsewhere. She has done nothing about this. - she appointed lazy bleeps to key positions in the process who then resigned having failed to do any meaningful work or achieve anything - she created a deal without seeking any political buy in along the way. - she keeps coming back with the same old rubbish that will never be voted through - she keeps pandering to the most reactionary wing in her party which never works She is a complete disaster who has screwed the country over, who is deluded about her so called abilities and who, if she had an ounce of decency, would have resigned months ago. We are utterly doomed. Oh the rest of them should all be sacked as well. If anyone performed as badly as this in their normal jobs they'd have been sacked a very long time ago.
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Post by vjaska on Mar 12, 2019 22:25:00 GMT
Either way we're screwed - we either accept an awful no deal situation or we accept a democracy killing situation with a second referendum. There will no winners except for politicians egos & agendas. Democracy has been dead in this country for years... Political parties mzke the right noises to fool the people, once in power, most of what they promise is quietly canned. No political party will deliver the will of the people if it is financial suicide such as a No Deal scenario is. When Gove and Johnson were shown to have lied about the NHS money and other things in the Referendum, that should have been the catalyst to pull the plug on was then a non binding idea, before foolishly being enshrined in law. Brexit and its promises can be summed up well enough... That shows then people just believe anything they see - I never believed that statement one bit and had already made my mind long ago about which way I was voting and I still stand by my Leave vote. At the end of the day, both Remain & Leave peddled many lies throughout the campaign and both shoudl be appalled by their behaviours.
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Post by sid on Mar 12, 2019 22:26:52 GMT
One big set up. MPs won't vote for No Deal. This is just going to drag on and on for years. All this people vote talk makes me laugh if the referendum result had gone the other way people would be told just except it. The only reason for calling for a second referendum is because they didn't like the outcome of the first one and now want another bite at the cherry, you couldn't make it up. It's enshrined in law that we're leaving on March 29th with or without a deal so let's just get on with it.
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Post by sid on Mar 12, 2019 22:32:55 GMT
Either way we're screwed - we either accept an awful no deal situation or we accept a democracy killing situation with a second referendum. There will no winners except for politicians egos & agendas. Democracy has been dead in this country for years... Political parties mzke the right noises to fool the people, once in power, most of what they promise is quietly canned. No political party will deliver the will of the people if it is financial suicide such as a No Deal scenario is. When Gove and Johnson were shown to have lied about the NHS money and other things in the Referendum, that should have been the catalyst to pull the plug on was then a non binding idea, before foolishly being enshrined in law. Brexit and its promises can be summed up well enough... There were no lies about NHS money, it was just a suggestion, nobody had promised anything. Yes it was perhaps a tad misleading but no more so than the cow manure that has come from the remain side. Quite honestly neither side come out of this with any credit.
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Post by ServerKing on Mar 13, 2019 4:37:14 GMT
Democracy has been dead in this country for years... Political parties mzke the right noises to fool the people, once in power, most of what they promise is quietly canned. No political party will deliver the will of the people if it is financial suicide such as a No Deal scenario is. When Gove and Johnson were shown to have lied about the NHS money and other things in the Referendum, that should have been the catalyst to pull the plug on was then a non binding idea, before foolishly being enshrined in law. Brexit and its promises can be summed up well enough... There were no lies about NHS money, it was just a suggestion, nobody had promised anything. Yes it was perhaps a tad misleading but no more so than the cow manure that has come from the remain side. Quite honestly neither side come out of this with any credit.The last bit of your statement is true. We'll be broke as church mice after this mess is over. If it was a mere suggestion plastered on the side of thst Astromega coach, why did so many chumps fall for it? (Perhaps we can encourage Gove and Johnson to do the next branding trials if Gareth and his mates at TfL want another pop?) Both sides did their own type of Momo Challenge to scare us which turned out to be baseless, but Leave has more consequences with Trade which will finish the country off. Of course we know EU won't just let the UK walk away as Theresa May May goes down in history as the worst prime minister. David Cameron may be the Architect of Brexit, but it's Theresa May who's turned up in the van as the cowboy builder I do hope that Theresa managed to get to Tesco Pharmacy before it closed to get something for her cold. Plenty of Olbas Oil for the next trip to Strasbourg in tears after another beating... Today will be the equivalent of Year 9 at school where nothing is really achieved with the Options you've chosen
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Post by galwhv69 on Mar 13, 2019 17:59:50 GMT
It's Official... Theresa May has a new hit on the charts lol Its Still M.A.Y ft Snoop Mogg ServerKing One for you?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 20:33:06 GMT
This farce will now drag onto until June!
Are these MPs on time and half for all this overtime they are clocking up with pointless votes.
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Post by ServerKing on Mar 13, 2019 20:48:49 GMT
This farce will now drag onto until June!
Are these MPs on time and half for all this overtime they are clocking up with pointless votes.
The safety word is Backstop... Watching this debate is like push starting a car with the handbrake on. The way May resurrected the deal and put it back in service after being dead for ages, reminds me of EN9 back at Enfield from the Edmonton Graveyards... I've seen more decorum in Wetherspoon's on a Friday night. Let them slug it out until the bitter end... It doesn't matter who takes over next if May goes. It's like a driver change on the 318, Its the same knackered bus
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