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Post by M1104 on Jun 20, 2016 12:49:55 GMT
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Post by rmz19 on Jun 20, 2016 13:06:52 GMT
That's interesting! Do you think any will be in London? If so then that would mean the MMC would be on three different chassis. |
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Post by snowman on Jun 20, 2016 13:23:36 GMT
That's interesting! Do you think any will be in London? If so then that would mean the MMC would be on three different chassis. Isn't the N280UD the natural gas version rather than diesel. Not currently aware of any plans to get natural gas buses in London |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 20, 2016 13:25:00 GMT
That's interesting! Do you think any will be in London? If so then that would mean the MMC would be on three different chassis. Doubt any will be ordered in London especially given the old body on a Scania chassis was never ordered by any London operator which is a massive shame as they are good buses. Stagecoach apparently have some on order for the provinces. |
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Post by M1104 on Jun 20, 2016 13:26:21 GMT
That's interesting! Do you think any will be in London? If so then that would mean the MMC would be on three different chassis. To be honest I'd be surprised if any London spec examples appear beyond a possible demonstrator, especially with Go-Ahead London who've substantially reduced their Scania fleet in favour of Volvo and ADL. |
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Post by vjaska on Jun 20, 2016 13:28:17 GMT
That's interesting! Do you think any will be in London? If so then that would mean the MMC would be on three different chassis. Isn't the N280UD the natural gas version rather than diesel. Not currently aware of any plans to get LNG buses in London I doubt it's just a natural gas version especially the demonstrator in the pic has nothing on it suggesting it's a natural gas version. The same bus has also been touring with local Essex independents like Stephenson's of Essex so I'd be very surprised to see a smaller operator trial something like a natural gas vehicle. |
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Post by planesandtrains on Jun 20, 2016 14:47:12 GMT
Would be good to see LU having a go since they have that massive Scania fleet, however they are currently on a Volvo high so seems very unlikely.
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Post by john on Jun 20, 2016 17:10:49 GMT
Unless the fuel economy has improved dramatically, don't expect Stagecoach to be ordering any of them if they are done in London spec
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Post by snoggle on Jun 20, 2016 17:19:26 GMT
That's interesting! Do you think any will be in London? If so then that would mean the MMC would be on three different chassis. Doubt any will be ordered in London especially given the old body on a Scania chassis was never ordered by any London operator which is a massive shame as they are good buses. Stagecoach apparently have some on order for the provinces. The latest Stagecoach orders have no Scania double deckers. Scania apparently refused to incorporate changes Stagecoach wanted and Stagecoach have effectively breached manufacturer's warranties on more recent buses by modifying them anyway. Unless Scania change their minds there won't be any more Stagecoach orders. The only hope Scania have is if the gas powered double decker proves a winner and more than a couple of operators [1] decide to buy them. [1] Reading and possibly Nottingham. |
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Post by 725DYE on Jun 20, 2016 18:08:53 GMT
Very interesting although it is a shame that we won't see any in London (for the time being). I'm sure if Metrobus weren't under GAL, they would still be ordering Scanias, but how have times changed!
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Post by vjaska on Jun 20, 2016 18:17:13 GMT
Very interesting although it is a shame that we won't see any in London (for the time being). I'm sure if Metrobus weren't under GAL, they would still be ordering Scanias, but how have times changed! The Scania Omnicity DD & Optare Omnidekka have been discontinued for a while so Metrobus would of had to switch to a new type anyway. |
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Post by VPL630 on Jun 24, 2016 10:18:37 GMT
Doubt any will be ordered in London especially given the old body on a Scania chassis was never ordered by any London operator which is a massive shame as they are good buses. Stagecoach apparently have some on order for the provinces. The latest Stagecoach orders have no Scania double deckers. Scania apparently refused to incorporate changes Stagecoach wanted and Stagecoach have effectively breached manufacturer's warranties on more recent buses by modifying them anyway. Unless Scania change their minds there won't be any more Stagecoach orders. The only hope Scania have is if the gas powered double decker proves a winner and more than a couple of operators [1] decide to buy them. [1] Reading and possibly Nottingham. Shame, by far the most comfortable buses I've driven and if driven correctly, they fly, have the best door buttons in the fleet as well |
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Post by jay38a on Jun 27, 2016 15:24:30 GMT
The latest Stagecoach orders have no Scania double deckers. Scania apparently refused to incorporate changes Stagecoach wanted and Stagecoach have effectively breached manufacturer's warranties on more recent buses by modifying them anyway. Unless Scania change their minds there won't be any more Stagecoach orders. The only hope Scania have is if the gas powered double decker proves a winner and more than a couple of operators [1] decide to buy them. [1] Reading and possibly Nottingham. Shame, by far the most comfortable buses I've driven and if driven correctly, they fly, have the best door buttons in the fleet as well Scanias are definitely drivers buses, give me one over a Volvo any day, thats on the decker front. |
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Post by greeny253 on Jun 27, 2016 15:55:43 GMT
Shame, by far the most comfortable buses I've driven and if driven correctly, they fly, have the best door buttons in the fleet as well Scanias are definitely drivers buses, give me one over a Volvo any day, thats on the decker front. I'll agree that Scania are a drivers bus - their lorries are also fantastic from a drivers point of view - but I actually preferred Volvo. The ones we had on the 150 at First were different to the ones they had at CentreWest and were equipped with the "floating" dash. Every control you needed really was in a really comfortable position. I'll see if I can find a picture.. I'm sure @chazaroo had a picture somewhere of the ones for the EL routes which was a similar design. Edit: Found one... Similar to this only our tacho head and the heater controls were on the opposite sides |
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Post by jay38a on Jun 27, 2016 16:13:48 GMT
Scanias are definitely drivers buses, give me one over a Volvo any day, thats on the decker front. I'll agree that Scania are a drivers bus - their lorries are also fantastic from a drivers point of view - but I actually preferred Volvo. The ones we had on the 150 at First were different to the ones they had at CentreWest and were equipped with the "floating" dash. Every control you needed really was in a really comfortable position. I'll see if I can find a picture.. I'm sure @chazaroo had a picture somewhere of the ones for the EL routes which was a similar design. Edit: Found one... Similar to this only our tacho head and the heater controls were on the opposite sidesThe WVLs we have at MB are the same layout as the ones you had on the 150, however for accelerating give me a Scania as they are not so restricted unlike the volvos which struggle with any hill. |
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