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Post by VPL630 on Jul 11, 2016 12:40:04 GMT
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Post by RT3062 on Jul 11, 2016 12:49:39 GMT
Cant say that im suprised to hear this news.hopefully the CAs will find other work.
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Post by sid on Jul 11, 2016 18:13:56 GMT
I'd like to know where these customer satisfaction figures come from, nobody has ever asked me!
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Post by M1104 on Jul 12, 2016 7:02:06 GMT
Reliable sources say that OPO conversion of routes 9, 10 and 11 (and assumingly the other three routes) will commence from Saturday September 3rd.
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Post by T.R. on Jul 12, 2016 11:08:34 GMT
Reliable sources say that OPO conversion of routes 9, 10 and 11 (and assumingly the other three routes) will commence from Saturday September 3rd. 38 OPO might be as early as August (maybe in connection with the night tube)
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Post by snoggle on Jul 12, 2016 11:21:41 GMT
Reliable sources say that OPO conversion of routes 9, 10 and 11 (and assumingly the other three routes) will commence from Saturday September 3rd. 38 OPO might be as early as August (maybe in connection with the night tube) I suspect that the extent of crew operation on the 6 NB4L crewed routes will decline well in advance of any formal end date. Existing staff are likely to leave in advance if they can find alternative employment quickly. That's how it is once a "death knell" has been sounded.
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Post by ibus246 on Jul 12, 2016 13:37:01 GMT
38 OPO might be as early as August (maybe in connection with the night tube) I suspect that the extent of crew operation on the 6 NB4L crewed routes will decline well in advance of any formal end date. Existing staff are likely to leave in advance if they can find alternative employment quickly. That's how it is once a "death knell" has been sounded. So are the CA's being made redundant?
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Post by snoggle on Jul 12, 2016 14:09:50 GMT
I suspect that the extent of crew operation on the 6 NB4L crewed routes will decline well in advance of any formal end date. Existing staff are likely to leave in advance if they can find alternative employment quickly. That's how it is once a "death knell" has been sounded. So are the CA's being made redundant? Yes. All I am saying is that some may opt to leave early if their redundancy entitlement is nil / negligible and they find another job. People tend to desert "sinking ships" if they are able to. Obviously efforts are going to me made to help people find alternative employment but the end result is that people will have no CA job to go to.
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Post by snowman on Jul 12, 2016 15:00:47 GMT
So are the CA's being made redundant? Yes. All I am saying is that some may opt to leave early if their redundancy entitlement is nil / negligible and they find another job. People tend to desert "sinking ships" if they are able to. Obviously efforts are going to me made to help people find alternative employment but the end result is that people will have no CA job to go to. Redundancy payments could be quite low, (although it is tax free below £30,000) Companies can volunteer more but I think it is based on full years of service and only payable if you have done 2 years (which might not be that many) half weeks pay for each full year (if under 22) weeks pay for each year (aged 22-40) week and half for each year (aged 41- ) As snoggle has say, some may jump ship early if offered a new job as payouts might not be worth waiting for. My guess is TfL included a variation option in the Operator contracts, probably something like can stop funding 3 months after giving notice of change. Operators probably lose funding to cover CA pay from about start October.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 12, 2016 18:22:13 GMT
I suspect that the extent of crew operation on the 6 NB4L crewed routes will decline well in advance of any formal end date. Existing staff are likely to leave in advance if they can find alternative employment quickly. That's how it is once a "death knell" has been sounded. So are the CA's being made redundant? The option is there for redundancy but as I laid out in the other thread, they can get opportunities from their employer or from TfL
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Post by ibus246 on Jul 12, 2016 19:37:58 GMT
So are the CA's being made redundant? The option is there for redundancy but as I laid out in the other thread, they can get opportunities from their employer or from TfL However, thinking realistically there are X amount of CA's and X amount of opportunities I would assume - I would think there are not opportunities for *every* to be catered for but I may be wrong.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jul 12, 2016 19:58:16 GMT
The option is there for redundancy but as I laid out in the other thread, they can get opportunities from their employer or from TfL However, thinking realistically there are X amount of CA's and X amount of opportunities I would assume - I would think there are not opportunities for *every* to be catered for but I may be wrong. There wouldn't be that much opportunities. The most obvious one would be to driver, but then not all CA's have a car licence so could rule them out. Other jobs within the bus companies are thin on the ground.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2016 5:01:28 GMT
Thanks for sharing this link
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Post by CarpeDiemTraveller on Aug 5, 2016 16:23:07 GMT
I was thinking of starting a petition to call for conductors on the RMs as volunteers and not as paid workers. They would receive training as well and this in total, per volunteer, would slash the £65k cost per conductor per year figure. The PAs are helpful, friendly, and help make journeys safer and more convenient. What do others think?
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Post by sid on Aug 5, 2016 16:27:16 GMT
I was thinking of starting a petition to call for conductors on the RMs as volunteers and not as paid workers. They would receive training as well and this in total, per volunteer, would slash the £65k cost per conductor per year figure. The PAs are helpful, friendly, and help make journeys safer and more convenient. What do others think? Good luck with that but I can't imagine too many people volunteering to do the job for free
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