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Post by snoggle on Jan 29, 2017 22:23:55 GMT
Seems to affect those NB4Ls fitted with the sliding plug door on the rearmost door. Details in the notice. DVLA Recall notice
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Post by Volvo on Jan 29, 2017 22:29:49 GMT
Seems to affect those NB4Ls fitted with the sliding plug door on the rearmost door. Details in the notice. DVLA Recall noticeWe do not have this issue with our sliding door examples @ SF to my knowledge but I did have this issue with swing door LT499 the last week on the 73 and I told the engineer as soon as I got back and he was just telling me nonsense about me not letting the doors close fully. I am like listen right the door was fully closed, I released the handbrake acclerated to about 2mph then the bus suddenly stopped because the rear door opened again, this happened to me 5 times between Tottenham Court Road and Newington Green. Also the one about power steering, again sometimes when I released the handbrake and attempted to move and turn the wheel it would lock up for a few seconds before allowing me to turn.
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Post by snoggle on Jan 29, 2017 22:38:12 GMT
Seems to affect those NB4Ls fitted with the sliding plug door on the rearmost door. Details in the notice. DVLA Recall noticeWe do not have this issue with our sliding door examples @ SF to my knowledge but I did have this issue with swing door LT499 the last week on the 73 and I told the engineer as soon as I got back and he was just telling me nonsense about me not letting the doors close fully. I am like listen right the door was fully closed, I released the handbrake acclerated to about 2mph then the bus suddenly stopped because the rear door opened again, this happened to me 5 times between Tottenham Court Road and Newington Green. Well the info is in the public domain and you can point the engineers at it. Be interesting to know if they are aware or not. Sounds like the system referenced in the notice may also affect other vehicles given your experience (assuming it's fitted to the "inward opening" vehicles, of course). It's not worth anyone getting terribly excited about this given the issue has been identified and DVLA have instructed rectification take place. I assume TfL, Wrightbus and the operators are "on the case" as you would expect. I just shared the notice for info. Someone was kind enough to E Mail me it.
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Post by Volvo on Jan 29, 2017 22:56:24 GMT
Sounds like the system referenced in the notice may also affect other vehicles given your experience (assuming it's fitted to the "inward opening" vehicles, of course). That was my first ever experience of it, though a few of the other drivers have told me it has happened to them many a time.
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Post by planesandtrains on Jan 30, 2017 8:09:00 GMT
Maybe a cheaper solution is to employ a person to stand there like there was before, and suddenly it is safe? But read through it more thoroughly and it does seem it needs sorting.
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Post by snoggle on Jan 30, 2017 14:58:34 GMT
Looks like the media and Assembly members have now caught up with this issue. Tweets and press releases flying around.
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Post by John tuthill on Jan 30, 2017 18:32:46 GMT
Looks like the media and Assembly members have now caught up with this issue. Tweets and press releases flying around.
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Post by John tuthill on Jan 30, 2017 18:41:53 GMT
The BBC web page says "400 Routemasters to be recalled."
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on Jan 30, 2017 18:54:05 GMT
So, if I understood this correctly, all the older LTs with the inward opening doors will be retrofitted with sliding doors? Blimey, they ain't even done with all the windows yet
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jan 30, 2017 18:56:58 GMT
So, if I understood this correctly, all the older LTs with the inward opening doors will be retrofitted with sliding doors? No, the LTs with the inward doors are fine, the ones which have the sliding doors are the ones which need to be modified
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Post by snoggle on Jan 30, 2017 19:32:18 GMT
So, if I understood this correctly, all the older LTs with the inward opening doors will be retrofitted with sliding doors? Blimey, they ain't even done with all the windows yet Nope. As East Londoner says it is the later buses with the rear sliding plug door that has the "defect". The notice does not apply to the first 500 or so [1] with inward turning doors. I assume there is something about how the system "recognises" that the rear door has locked and releases (or not) interlocks with the bus's braking system. [1] someone here will know the precise fleet number where the design change was implemented. I can never remember even though it was discussed here recently.
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Post by routew15 on Jan 30, 2017 20:55:13 GMT
Seems to affect those NB4Ls fitted with the sliding plug door on the rearmost door. Details in the notice. DVLA Recall noticeWe do not have this issue with our sliding door examples @ SF to my knowledge but I did have this issue with swing door LT499 the last week on the 73 and I told the engineer as soon as I got back and he was just telling me nonsense about me not letting the doors close fully. I am like listen right the door was fully closed, I released the handbrake acclerated to about 2mph then the bus suddenly stopped because the rear door opened again, this happened to me 5 times between Tottenham Court Road and Newington Green. Also the one about power steering, again sometimes when I released the handbrake and attempted to move and turn the wheel it would lock up for a few seconds before allowing me to turn. I have been inside a bus when that has happened. The door had closed but it reopened abruptly, we rolled forward slightly and then sharp brake (there was no open door alarm as there normally is on wrightbus). This situation has only ever happened on one of my journey on these New Routemaster buses, so I took it as a one off glitch.
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Post by snoggle on Jan 30, 2017 21:49:37 GMT
Looks like the media and Assembly members have now caught up with this issue. Tweets and press releases flying around. I'm no fan of the NB4L but having just seen the interview on London Live with AM Flo Eshalomi I have never heard such utter garbage being spoken. Just about every single thing she said was either wrong, a lie or grossly misinformed. Good grief. Someone needs to ensure AMs are briefed before appearing in front of a camera and making utter berks of themselves.
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Post by danorak on Jan 30, 2017 23:27:52 GMT
Looks like the media and Assembly members have now caught up with this issue. Tweets and press releases flying around. It's ludicrous really. A look at the DVSA website shows that recalls are common on all sorts of buses and other vehicles. All sense of proportion - from both sides - goes out of the (non-opening) window where NRMs are involved.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 30, 2017 23:53:47 GMT
Seen this fault with another bus type over the years and there has never been any modifications. But due to being the LT it gets witch-hunted.
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