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Post by N230UD on Aug 31, 2023 19:38:20 GMT
It isn't really a good idea to get news from people like Richard Tice and Dan Wooton. They are right-wing grifters. You're calling Khan a liar, corrupt and racist, but don't seem to have a problem with Richard Tice who is a really nasty piece of work. Where is your evidence for 'large scale opposition'? There's certainly a vocal minority who are getting front page coverage, but this seems to be completely overblowing how much support anti-ULEZ actually has. Where is your evidence that there is not widescale opposition? Interesting that you haven't answered my question. So, again, where's the evidence? Where's my evidence? Well, protests have been ridiculously small. If there was widescale opposition there would be absolutely huge protests, people striking and so on. There were over 1 million people attending an anti-Brexit march. How many have been attending the anti-ULEZ marches? My other evidence is that ULEZ will only affect a minority of people - the vast majority of vehicles are compliant, so most people won't be bothered.
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Post by N230UD on Aug 30, 2023 10:40:44 GMT
Anti-motorist rhetoric? Well it makes a change from the pro-motorist and anti-public transport rhetoric of the national government. I'd say its probably good that a mayor of a major city is anti-motorist - as public transport should be promoted. The "poorest Londoners" do not own a car and use public transport, so they are more likely to benefit through ULEZ with better pollution levels and (hopefully) improved public transport. Sounds like he is representing the people of London, who voted for him, instead of a minority of vocal motorists. And the majority of motorists won't even be affected by ULEZ so I really don't see what the fuss is about. Do you know how many journies are hard in outer London. Most outer London is not privileged enough to be connected to an expansive tube network. Sometime the poker people need cars to travel ... there is no option. How can silo people like that, you are poor so you can't own a car. Whether minority or majority, that is a rotten view to have. Sounds elitst. Most of outer London is still privilidged to have a decent bus network and excellent commuter rail network, something that the suburbs of other British cities can only dream of. There can certainly be improvements made to the public transport of the London suburbs though. Sure, some people will still need a car, but again most motorists are not affected by ULEZ, and those that are can get financial support. Where have I said poor people shouldn't own cars? Putting words right into my mouth, which is a common trait of people who are anti-ULEZ. I was simply stating as a matter of fact, that the poorest people of London do not own cars ( not that they 'shouldn't'). Although, it shouldn't be an aspiration to own a car in a big city anyway. To me, siding with motorists is what sounds elitist.
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Post by N230UD on Aug 30, 2023 10:28:22 GMT
And again THIS WAS NOT NEWS TO THEM. THEY HAVE BEEN AWARE FOR AGES NOW. Good grief I don't understand how people still don't understand this. If anything as I've said numerous times the people living on the outer parts had even more time to decide what to do next and some sat down doing nothing. Unfortunately the Mayor seems to always be a the top of my Twitter feed (refuse to call it X) where if he is not spouting anti motorist rhetoric, he is complaining about others making life financially harder for Londoners. What does he do? Makes it even harder for the poorest Londoner's. If that is not then actions of complete hypocrite, then I don't know what is. The man is despicable. He needs to understand the job is more than making cheap publicity shots and social media and actually do something to represent the people Oh and I had to laugh at the vocal minority ... straight out the LCC attack hound phrasebook. Anti-motorist rhetoric? Well it makes a change from the pro-motorist and anti-public transport rhetoric of the national government. I'd say its probably good that a mayor of a major city is anti-motorist - as public transport should be promoted. The "poorest Londoners" do not own a car and use public transport, so they are more likely to benefit through ULEZ with better pollution levels and (hopefully) improved public transport. Sounds like he is representing the people of London, who voted for him, instead of a minority of vocal motorists. And the majority of motorists won't even be affected by ULEZ so I really don't see what the fuss is about.
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Post by N230UD on Aug 30, 2023 9:13:13 GMT
There most certainly is large scale opposition. If you don’t want to recognise that then that is up to you. Khan has been proven to be a liar, corrupt and racist (see Richard Tice interview with Dan Wooton.) There ought to be a method of impeaching those in public office who commit gross misconduct. The less said about Dan Wooton the better, that man is a monster. But Khan is a racist. Where is the evidence that Khan is a racist?
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Post by N230UD on Aug 30, 2023 9:12:24 GMT
I'm not sure there really is 'large scale opposition', It appears to be a very vocal minority of people, and the media are making it look like there is widespread opposition. The anti-ULEZ crowds are attracting about 250 or so people to them. Compare that to the anti-Brexit march that got over 1 million protestors but was hardly mentioned in the media. There most certainly is large scale opposition. If you don’t want to recognise that then that is up to you. Khan has been proven to be a liar, corrupt and racist (see Richard Tice interview with Dan Wooton.) There ought to be a method of impeaching those in public office who commit gross misconduct. It isn't really a good idea to get news from people like Richard Tice and Dan Wooton. They are right-wing grifters. You're calling Khan a liar, corrupt and racist, but don't seem to have a problem with Richard Tice who is a really nasty piece of work. Where is your evidence for 'large scale opposition'? There's certainly a vocal minority who are getting front page coverage, but this seems to be completely overblowing how much support anti-ULEZ actually has.
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Post by N230UD on Aug 30, 2023 8:59:25 GMT
Obviously i'm just a delusional left-wing twit, but its great that ULEZ is being extended. People just can't accept that the majority of people either support or don't care about ULEZ. Its just the right wing press kicking up a fuss. You said it yourself in your opening sentence, can you not grasp the fact that areas like Orpington and Biggin Hill already have clean air? But you're right in saying that most people don't care and will treat this with the contempt it deserves. Do you have to talk to me like i'm an idiot? There are things that could be done differently with ULEZ, but overall it is good it's covering a far greater area. Maybe Orpington / Biggin Hill could have been excluded, but in any case their clean air will become even cleaner!
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Post by N230UD on Aug 30, 2023 8:55:25 GMT
I think that what is clear is the large scale opposition to ULEZ. From the camera breaking to sticking anti Ulez stickers across London. I came across a bus stop in Shepherd's Bush yesterday where there was a poster of Khan and someone slapped an anti ULEZ sticker on it I'm not sure there really is 'large scale opposition', It appears to be a very vocal minority of people, and the media are making it look like there is widespread opposition. The anti-ULEZ crowds are attracting about 250 or so people to them. Compare that to the anti-Brexit march that got over 1 million protestors but was hardly mentioned in the media.
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Post by N230UD on Aug 30, 2023 8:53:29 GMT
Obviously i'm just a delusional left-wing twit, but its great that ULEZ is being extended. People just can't accept that the majority of people either support or don't care about ULEZ. Its just the right wing press kicking up a fuss. So anyone not toeing the line to sadiq’s policies is a deluded right wing nut? So the average builder / plumber living on the edge of zone 6 and driving on emergencies to your house is a nut? You will progress well in life Don’t go crying about being abused if someone calls you a left wing idiot then next time Is there really a need to be so nasty and aggressive? Completely unnecessary. This is not how you have a debate, and perhaps you need some lessons on how to do it. No where have I said that people who disagree with Khan's policies is a 'deluded right wing nut', so don't you dare put words into my mouth.
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Post by N230UD on Aug 29, 2023 19:45:59 GMT
Obviously i'm just a delusional left-wing twit, but its great that ULEZ is being extended.
People just can't accept that the majority of people either support or don't care about ULEZ. Its just the right wing press kicking up a fuss.
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Post by N230UD on Aug 26, 2023 17:38:23 GMT
Interestingly, just before they start operating this service, Central Connect has been bought by Vectare. Central Connect will remain separate from the Vectare Essex operation for the time being.
Back to the 84B - I would have thought it would be better to pay Sullivan to extend some of their route 84 journeys, rather than having two separate services. Although obviously I have no idea what may have gone on behind the scenes - Sullivan may have declined to do so. The number of people making through journeys on the Metroline 84 may have been very small anyway (some on here might have a better idea).
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Post by N230UD on Jan 5, 2022 16:50:02 GMT
I had a feeling it would all be too good to be true, as usual. I was hoping my cynicism would be proven wrong!
Hopefully some positives can be salvaged though.
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Post by N230UD on Nov 27, 2021 21:23:58 GMT
There’s one admin on there who’s a bit of a nasty dictator. Not something I’ve seen before on any other forums I’m a part of. Admittedly I don't post there as often, but I haven't experienced anything like that. Only thing that annoys me there is how they're picky about having to quote when providing info from from external websites and having to create new threads as other similar ones get locked It’s mostly on the Covid sub-forum where the dictatorship reigns.
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Post by N230UD on Nov 27, 2021 20:14:49 GMT
I’ve not really noticed that on Rail UK Forums although I only skim through a few posts on there. Likewise I've been wearing a face covering in shops and on public transport, it's only a minor inconvenience. There’s one admin on there who’s a bit of a nasty dictator. Not something I’ve seen before on any other forums I’m a part of.
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Post by N230UD on Nov 27, 2021 18:44:53 GMT
I’ve continued to wear a mask on transport and in shops anyway, so won’t make a difference to me. I just hope we won’t have more lockdowns again, that’s what would really worry me. I shall try and avoid RailUK Forum from now on - that place is full of anti-maskers, and I ended up having an argument on there last time Think I'll head over there right now 🤣 Be warned - say something the main admin doesn’t agree with and you’ll be threatened with a ban 😂
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Post by N230UD on Nov 27, 2021 18:37:04 GMT
I’ve continued to wear a mask on transport and in shops anyway, so won’t make a difference to me. I just hope we won’t have more lockdowns again, that’s what would really worry me.
I shall try and avoid RailUK Forum from now on - that place is full of anti-maskers, and I ended up having an argument on there last time
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