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Post by snoggle on May 1, 2017 23:51:15 GMT
Courtesy of the London Reconnections blog there is some insight into the issues facing New York's bus network. Some of the issues are strikingly familiar to those in London - declining patronage, unreliability, slow journeys, people transferring to other modes, issues with political buy in. www.londonreconnections.com/2017/line-9-new-york-buses/There is a podcast on the above link which is with two lobbyists for bus passengers in the USA / NYC. The podcast is 60 mins long. There is also a report and website about how to improve NYC's buses. Bus Turnaround websiteFixing NYC's bus servicesThe report is almost a year old but there are interesting issues that are highlighted. In a number of ways TfL is and has been way ahead on a number of issues such as route design, speeding up fare payment, frequency, giving buses priority. However it is quite telling that we are now seeing the same woes in London that are afflicting NYC. Interestingly Manhatten (the centre) has seen the biggest drop in patronage with people transferring to the Subway. Sound familiar? I had not appreciated that some of the outer boroughs in NYC have very poor cross borough links and that people have to travel via Manhatten on the subway and back to the Bronx to get another bus to actually travel across the Bronx because the route design is so deficient. This also applies in Queens and Brooklyn. There is also route by route data accessible via the Turnaround website. Well worth a listen / read but bear in mind the commentators are NOT from the Mass Transit Authority so it's a slightly one sided discussion. |
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Post by snoggle on Nov 27, 2017 18:58:38 GMT
The City Comptroller for New York City has just published a study / report into the New York City bus network. Unsurprisingly it makes depressing reading with declining patronage, slow services, no network change in decades and generally poor passenger facilities and ageing vehicles. There are differences with London but also a number of obvious parallels. Report on NYC buses |
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Post by routew15 on Jun 26, 2018 19:49:03 GMT
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Post by snowman on Apr 25, 2019 11:53:14 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Apr 25, 2019 12:06:25 GMT
I was looking at some recent MTA papers the other day. They've rejigged the network on Staten Island recently and bus journey times have seen some very healthy improvements as a result. They are also consulting on other network rejigs in some of the other Boroughs. Even though there is a long way to go with the Subway network there were also some interesting improvements in the reliability / operational stats. Seems some of what Andy Byford is doing is having an effect. |
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Post by sid on Apr 25, 2019 12:12:15 GMT
Interesting, obviously much more road space in New York for bus priority compared to London. |
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Post by busaholic on Apr 25, 2019 20:08:05 GMT
Interesting, obviously much more road space in New York for bus priority compared to London. And maybe they haven't deliberately reduced road space to non-cyclists by 20-25% unlike in London. |
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Post by sid on Apr 25, 2019 20:36:32 GMT
Interesting, obviously much more road space in New York for bus priority compared to London. And maybe they haven't deliberately reduced road space to non-cyclists by 20-25% unlike in London. Because making cycling safer is a dreadful idea. Why does every thread turn into the same moaning? |
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Post by snowman on Mar 29, 2020 12:16:51 GMT
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Post by marc224 on Oct 9, 2021 15:50:24 GMT
Good day,
My name is Marc Moll. I have a question and would appreciate your help. I was told that you are the person to contact. It's about the history of bus services in New York
I had a conversation with an acquaintance about bus stop announcements and displays in the 1970s or 1980s and 1990s. I will also be writing a class assignment on this topic (public transport).
My first question is: When were automatic bus and tram stop announcements and displays introduced?
Did bus drivers and tram drivers have to shout the stops into the microphone before automatic stop announcements and displays were introduced?
Did bus drivers really do this when they had to announce the stops themselves?
Or how would passengers know where the next stop was?
How was it in New York
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How was it handled in London by bus/tram drivers, did they do it meticulously, did most or only half do it etc?
Are there many former bus drivers or those who rode the bus frequently in the 1980s/90s who know what it was really like, or have experienced it themselves?
What if the automatic stop announcements and displays on buses and trains fail nowadays, does the driver have to announce the stops as well?
Does this happen sometimes?
You would help me a lot
. I look forward to your reply
With kind regards
Marc-Marcel Moll
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Post by vjaska on Oct 9, 2021 16:24:13 GMT
Good day, My name is Marc Moll. I have a question and would appreciate your help. I was told that you are the person to contact. It's about the history of bus services in New York I had a conversation with an acquaintance about bus stop announcements and displays in the 1970s or 1980s and 1990s. I will also be writing a class assignment on this topic (public transport). My first question is: When were automatic bus and tram stop announcements and displays introduced? Did bus drivers and tram drivers have to shout the stops into the microphone before automatic stop announcements and displays were introduced? Did bus drivers really do this when they had to announce the stops themselves? Or how would passengers know where the next stop was? How was it in New York . How was it handled in London by bus/tram drivers, did they do it meticulously, did most or only half do it etc? Are there many former bus drivers or those who rode the bus frequently in the 1980s/90s who know what it was really like, or have experienced it themselves? What if the automatic stop announcements and displays on buses and trains fail nowadays, does the driver have to announce the stops as well? Does this happen sometimes? You would help me a lot . I look forward to your reply With kind regards Marc-Marcel Moll Why do you keep asking the same question that has been answered by a number of people? |
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Post by WH241 on Oct 9, 2021 16:35:01 GMT
Good day, My name is Marc Moll. I have a question and would appreciate your help. I was told that you are the person to contact. It's about the history of bus services in New York I had a conversation with an acquaintance about bus stop announcements and displays in the 1970s or 1980s and 1990s. I will also be writing a class assignment on this topic (public transport). My first question is: When were automatic bus and tram stop announcements and displays introduced? Did bus drivers and tram drivers have to shout the stops into the microphone before automatic stop announcements and displays were introduced? Did bus drivers really do this when they had to announce the stops themselves? Or how would passengers know where the next stop was? How was it in New York . How was it handled in London by bus/tram drivers, did they do it meticulously, did most or only half do it etc? Are there many former bus drivers or those who rode the bus frequently in the 1980s/90s who know what it was really like, or have experienced it themselves? What if the automatic stop announcements and displays on buses and trains fail nowadays, does the driver have to announce the stops as well? Does this happen sometimes? You would help me a lot . I look forward to your reply With kind regards Marc-Marcel Moll Why do you keep asking the same question that has been answered by a number of people? I think it's a Bot spam account. |
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Post by galwhv69 on Oct 13, 2021 6:52:04 GMT
Why do you keep asking the same question that has been answered by a number of people? I think it's a Bot spam account. A bot would usually have generic messages encouraging you to do something lile click a link, doubt someone would specially set up a bus related bot. Might just be a user unfamiloar with how the forum works, thinking the threads keep getting deleted when they don't show up etc. |
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Post by LK65EBO on Sept 7, 2022 14:39:42 GMT
Does anyone know if any operator in North America has ordered any Enviro 500s. Just saw a white one in my area earlier and it had doors on the right side.
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 7, 2022 14:46:23 GMT
Does anyone know if any operator in North America has ordered any Enviro 500s. Just saw a white one in my area earlier and it had doors on the right side. Think Berlin has. If it was for US it will have a bulging front bumper. Also think any US E500s would be built by NFI under the build America scheme ... they used to build them under license before they took over ADL. |
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