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Post by 6HP502C on Apr 4, 2021 12:15:30 GMT
[Actually impressed someone agreed to take the hit on depreciation charges for all those vehicles in one go ... most un-Arriva London like. Still should place them in a better position for the future, reducing the cost base by eliminating future depreciation charges. Good for the longer term viability of the company. Never made any sense worrying about shorter term budgets, which were wildly optimistic. Very quick count, make that exactly 100 vehicles gone, or the space occupied by a small to medium sized garage. Will the process repeat itself with the E400s, or has the lesson been learnt? Realise the value in your surplus assets. Think the older stuff is fully depreciated now so they could let them go at market price. A lot of the buses have mysteriously had bits removed so quite some effort to take them for anything but scrap. |
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Post by VPL630 on Apr 4, 2021 12:23:34 GMT
[Actually impressed someone agreed to take the hit on depreciation charges for all those vehicles in one go ... most un-Arriva London like. Still should place them in a better position for the future, reducing the cost base by eliminating future depreciation charges. Good for the longer term viability of the company. Never made any sense worrying about shorter term budgets, which were wildly optimistic. Very quick count, make that exactly 100 vehicles gone, or the space occupied by a small to medium sized garage. Will the process repeat itself with the E400s, or has the lesson been learnt? Realise the value in your surplus assets. Think the older stuff is fully depreciated now so they could let them go at market price. A lot of the buses have mysteriously had bits removed so quite some effort to take them for anything but scrap. Not to mention that amount of time they've spent sitting, they would all take money and work to get them in a fit for service state |
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Post by 6HP502C on Apr 5, 2021 10:19:42 GMT
Think the older stuff is fully depreciated now so they could let them go at market price. A lot of the buses have mysteriously had bits removed so quite some effort to take them for anything but scrap. Not to mention that amount of time they've spent sitting, they would all take money and work to get them in a fit for service state Yes. The challenging bit is getting people with the right skills and resources to get the job done efficiently. Requires multiple people to be available to work at the same time. Plus some parts like ECUs may be obsolete. A project and a half! |
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Post by Londontransport3 on May 5, 2021 13:15:38 GMT
Purfleet in April as follows……….
Vehicles in.
From First Devon and Cornwall : Volvo B7TL’s WR03YZW / YZV.
From Original London Sightseeing : Volvo B7L’s LX05GDZ / GEJ / KNZ / KOA / HSC EU05DVW / DVX DAF DB250’s LJ51DJZ / DKE / DKK / DKL / DKF / DKV LF52URJ / URK
From Arriva London : All of these are in poor condition and are likely to go straight for scrap, any that are sold elsewhere will be listed as they go. Darts LJ54LHL / LJ05GPF / SN06BPE / SN06BPF DAF DB250 KL52CXJ E200’s LJ58AVZ / AUW / AUY LJ07EDU / ECT E400 LJ08CYP Volvo B7TL’s LJ04YWT / LJ54BCF / LJ54BCK / LJ05BKV / LJ55BVU / LJ55BVW / LJ55BVZ / LJ55BVD / LJ55BVE / LJ55BVF / LJ55BVL
From Go Ahead NE : Volvo B9R YY63OJD
From Go Ahead London : Volvo B7TL’s W541/542WGH LX54GZH / GZL / GZM / GZN
From private owner : Spectra YJ51ZVM
From Lothian Buses : Volvo B9TL’s SK07CAA / CAE / CAO / CAU / CAV SN57GNJ / GNK
From Bear Buses : Trident V479KJN
From Stagecoach Highlands : Volvo B12Bs SV08GXO / GXN SV09EGD / EGK SJ57AAX / AAY / AAZ SF57DPV Volvo B7R SP06SVJ
VEHICLES OUT
E200s GN08CHD / CGX / CGY / CGZ : Thandhi Reds, Smethwick, Birmingham.
Volvo B7R KX56JZM : Coastal Liner, Wolverhampton.
Volvo B7RLE SN57DCO : Happly Als, Liverpool.
Volvo B7RLE SK07CGV : Roselyn Coaches, Par, Cornwall.
E200 LJ09KPN : Go Ahead NE.
E200 LJ58AVE : Galleon Travel, Roydon, Essex.
E200 LJ09KPL : Redline, Aylesbury.
Trident V479KJN : Fourways Coaches, Chelmsford.
Volvo B9TL LX60DXH : D and E Coaches, Inverness.
Volvo B11RT BX65WDE : Candy Coaches, Morden, Surrey.
Volvo B9TL BJ11DVX : Shiel Buses, Fort William.
Volvo B12Bs SV08GXP / SJ57AAY : Panther Travel, Harwich.
Volvo B9TL BJ11EAF : ASD Coaches, Strood.
Volvo B9TL SN57GMX : Wheelers Travel, Southampton.
Volvo B9TLs BJ11EBP / DZY : London Borough of Havering .
Volvo B9TL BJ11DSX : Tyrers Coaches, Manchester.
Trident V517ESC : Scarborough Suncruisers.
Volvo B9TL’s SK07CAA / CAE / CAO / CAU / CAV / SN57GNK : Catteralls Coaches, Southam, Warwicks.
Volvo B7RLE SK07CGX : Ricardo UK Ltd, Shoreham.
DAF LF52URJ : Riviera Tours, Torquay.
Trident LN51GMF : First Devon and Cornwall.
The following all to Shelton Motors for scrap :
Volvo B7TL’s LF52ZPD / LT52WXD.
Tridents LK05GHA LR02LYX
E200s SN08ACV / AAZ / ABV / AEC.
Scania YT59SHV
ENSIGN FLEET
392 sold to First Eastern Counties.
102 / 103 sold to Imperial Coaches, Slough
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Post by beaver14uk on May 22, 2021 16:43:48 GMT
Any lastest updates at all?
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Post by LondonNorthern on May 22, 2021 17:46:17 GMT
Any lastest updates at all? They get released in the first few days of each month The only thing that's off the top of my head is 57/08 reg B9TLs (due to new B5TLs entering service) from Lothian are now being displaced to Ensignbus for sale. Some, I believe were sold directly from Lothian to Brylaine up in Boston. I also believe 33088 has moved from First Essex to Ensignbus as well for sale. I suspect the 11/61/62 reg from Tower Transit have possibly gone to sale at Ensign from the 28 & 69 losses. |
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Post by VPL630 on May 23, 2021 6:16:42 GMT
Any lastest updates at all? They get released in the first few days of each month The only thing that's off the top of my head is 57/08 reg B9TLs (due to new B5TLs entering service) from Lothian are now being displaced to Ensignbus for sale. Some, I believe were sold directly from Lothian to Brylaine up in Boston. I also believe 33088 has moved from First Essex to Ensignbus as well for sale. I suspect the 11/61/62 reg from Tower Transit have possibly gone to sale at Ensign from the 28 & 69 losses. You’re not wrong |
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Post by snowman on May 23, 2021 7:44:20 GMT
Any lastest updates at all? They get released in the first few days of each month The only thing that's off the top of my head is 57/08 reg B9TLs (due to new B5TLs entering service) from Lothian are now being displaced to Ensignbus for sale. Some, I believe were sold directly from Lothian to Brylaine up in Boston. I also believe 33088 has moved from First Essex to Ensignbus as well for sale. I suspect the 11/61/62 reg from Tower Transit have possibly gone to sale at Ensign from the 28 & 69 losses. Once the school extras (V routes) end, I wonder how many of the 200+ buses will pass to Ensign. Some are likely to go straight on to scrappers |
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Post by LondonNorthern on May 23, 2021 7:50:46 GMT
They get released in the first few days of each month The only thing that's off the top of my head is 57/08 reg B9TLs (due to new B5TLs entering service) from Lothian are now being displaced to Ensignbus for sale. Some, I believe were sold directly from Lothian to Brylaine up in Boston. I also believe 33088 has moved from First Essex to Ensignbus as well for sale. I suspect the 11/61/62 reg from Tower Transit have possibly gone to sale at Ensign from the 28 & 69 losses. Once the school extras (V routes) end, I wonder how many of the 200+ buses will pass to Ensign. Some are likely to go straight on to scrappers I mean I definitely can't see lots of them selling - the 07 reg E200s at GAL & RATP as well as the 57 reg I highly doubt will sell and instead go to scrap - potentially the same with the DE15s at Metroline. Them not being Euro 6 versus other competitors and in bad condition means they will very likely go to scrap. |
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Post by vjaska on May 23, 2021 12:35:59 GMT
Once the school extras (V routes) end, I wonder how many of the 200+ buses will pass to Ensign. Some are likely to go straight on to scrappers I mean I definitely can't see lots of them selling - the 07 reg E200s at GAL & RATP as well as the 57 reg I highly doubt will sell and instead go to scrap - potentially the same with the DE15s at Metroline. Them not being Euro 6 versus other competitors and in bad condition means they will very likely go to scrap. Didn’t some of the 07 reg SE’s go elsewhere within the Go-Ahead group a few days ago? |
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Post by Londontransport3 on May 23, 2021 12:52:21 GMT
I mean I definitely can't see lots of them selling - the 07 reg E200s at GAL & RATP as well as the 57 reg I highly doubt will sell and instead go to scrap - potentially the same with the DE15s at Metroline. Them not being Euro 6 versus other competitors and in bad condition means they will very likely go to scrap. Didn’t some of the 07 reg SE’s go elsewhere within the Go-Ahead group a few days ago? Yep Plymouth |
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Post by LondonNorthern on May 23, 2021 13:30:21 GMT
I mean I definitely can't see lots of them selling - the 07 reg E200s at GAL & RATP as well as the 57 reg I highly doubt will sell and instead go to scrap - potentially the same with the DE15s at Metroline. Them not being Euro 6 versus other competitors and in bad condition means they will very likely go to scrap. Didn’t some of the 07 reg SE’s go elsewhere within the Go-Ahead group a few days ago? In all fairness, yes that is true but that was likely a group decision - the ones that have not been redistributed amongst the group have instead gone to scrap pretty much straight away via Ensign |
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Post by LK65EBO on Jun 7, 2021 14:56:36 GMT
Purfleet in May as follows :
VEHICLES IN.
From RATP London : Volvo B7TLs PG04WHT / WHV Scania’s YN08DHO / DHE / DHF / DHG / DHK YT59PBU
From Tower Transit : E400s SN11BPU / BPV / BPX / BPY / BPZ / BRF / BRV / BRZ / BSO / BSU / BSV / BSX / BSY / BSZ/ BTE / BTO / BTU SN12EHC Volvo B9TL’s BN61MWZ / MXB / MXA / MXE / MXD / MXH / MXC / MXF / MXG / MXL BF62UYA / UYB / UYC / UYE / UYG
From Lothian Buses : Volvo B9TL’s SN57GNO / GNP SN08BWJ / BWK / BWL / BWM / BWO / BWP / BWU / BWV / BWW / BWX / BWY / BWZ / BXA / BXB / BXC / BXD / BXE / BXF / BXG / BXH / BXJ / BXK / BXL / BXM.
From Stagecoach Midlands : Solos KX55PFK / KX57KGA.
From Golden Tours : Volvo B9TL’s BF62UYN / UYP BV13ZCZ BF63HEJ WB12POT.
From Uno Buses : Tridents SN51SYR / SYY
From First Essex : Trident LN51GMU.
From Go-Ahead London : Volvo B12B YN55WSV.
From 7 Sisters Bus and Coach : Tridents T819/20RFG.
VEHICLES OUT.
Volvo B9TL SN57GNJ DAF LJ51DKL : Transdev.
Solo KX55PFK : Vectare, Loughborough.
Spectra YJ51ZVM : St Andrews leisure, Rochester, Kent.
Volvo B9TLs SN57GNF / GMV / GMY / GMZ : Wheelers Travel, Southampton.
Volvo B9TL’s BJ11EBL / DTZ / EAO / DZZ : Tyrers Coaches, Adlington.
Volvo B7TL’s LX54GZL / GZM : Fowlers Coaches, Holbeach Drove.
Volvo B7TL’s W542WGH LX54GZH / GZN : GDS Travel , Long Sutton, Cambs.
Volvo B9TL’s SN08BWJ / BWK / BWL : Als Coaches, Liverpool.
Volvo B7L’s EU05DVW / DVX : Seven Sisters bus and coach, Eastbourne.
Volvo B9TL’s SK07CBF / CBY / CCD / SN57DFC : Fords Coaches, Althorne
Volvo B12B YN55WSV : Panther Travel, Harwich.
Volvo B9TL’s SN08BWO / BWP / BWU / BXE / BXF / BXK : Brylaine Travel, Boston, Lincs.
Volvo B9TL’s SN08BWM / BWV / BWW / BWX / BWZ / BXA / BXB : Stotts Travel, Oldham.
Trident LV52HHO Volvo B7TL’s WR03YZV / YZW : C and G coaches, Peterborough.
Volvo B11RTs BX65WDA / WDD Volvo B7RLE’s SN57DCX / DDF : Ipswich Buses.
E400s LK58KHU / LK58CNV / LK57AXF : Warrington Buses
ENSIGN FLEET.
E200 601 sold to RedLine, Aylesbury.
New 601 is an ex ADL demo, now registered E17SGN, classic E200 shape, but fitted with a Euro 6 engine.
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Post by LondonNorthern on Jun 7, 2021 15:14:28 GMT
Purfleet in May as follows : VEHICLES IN. From RATP London : Volvo B7TLs PG04WHT / WHV Scania’s YN08DHO / DHE / DHF / DHG / DHK YT59PBU From Tower Transit : E400s SN11BPU / BPV / BPX / BPY / BPZ / BRF / BRV / BRZ / BSO / BSU / BSV / BSX / BSY / BSZ/ BTE / BTO / BTU SN12EHC Volvo B9TL’s BN61MWZ / MXB / MXA / MXE / MXD / MXH / MXC / MXF / MXG / MXL BF62UYA / UYB / UYC / UYE / UYG From Lothian Buses : Volvo B9TL’s SN57GNO / GNP SN08BWJ / BWK / BWL / BWM / BWO / BWP / BWU / BWV / BWW / BWX / BWY / BWZ / BXA / BXB / BXC / BXD / BXE / BXF / BXG / BXH / BXJ / BXK / BXL / BXM. From Stagecoach Midlands : Solos KX55PFK / KX57KGA. From Golden Tours : Volvo B9TL’s BF62UYN / UYP BV13ZCZ BF63HEJ WB12POT. From Uno Buses : Tridents SN51SYR / SYY From First Essex : Trident LN51GMU. From Go-Ahead London : Volvo B12B YN55WSV. From 7 Sisters Bus and Coach : Tridents T819/20RFG. VEHICLES OUT. Volvo B9TL SN57GNJ DAF LJ51DKL : Transdev. Solo KX55PFK : Vectare, Loughborough. Spectra YJ51ZVM : St Andrews leisure, Rochester, Kent. Volvo B9TLs SN57GNF / GMV / GMY / GMZ : Wheelers Travel, Southampton. Volvo B9TL’s BJ11EBL / DTZ / EAO / DZZ : Tyrers Coaches, Adlington. Volvo B7TL’s LX54GZL / GZM : Fowlers Coaches, Holbeach Drove. Volvo B7TL’s W542WGH LX54GZH / GZN : GDS Travel , Long Sutton, Cambs. Volvo B9TL’s SN08BWJ / BWK / BWL : Als Coaches, Liverpool. Volvo B7L’s EU05DVW / DVX : Seven Sisters bus and coach, Eastbourne. Volvo B9TL’s SK07CBF / CBY / CCD / SN57DFC : Fords Coaches, Althorne Volvo B12B YN55WSV : Panther Travel, Harwich. Volvo B9TL’s SN08BWO / BWP / BWU / BXE / BXF / BXK : Brylaine Travel, Boston, Lincs. Volvo B9TL’s SN08BWM / BWV / BWW / BWX / BWZ / BXA / BXB : Stotts Travel, Oldham. Trident LV52HHO Volvo B7TL’s WR03YZV / YZW : C and G coaches, Peterborough. Volvo B11RTs BX65WDA / WDD Volvo B7RLE’s SN57DCX / DDF : Ipswich Buses. E400s LK58KHU / LK58CNV / LK57AXF : Warrington Buses ENSIGN FLEET. E200 601 sold to RedLine, Aylesbury. New 601 is an ex ADL demo, now registered E17SGN, classic E200 shape, but fitted with a Euro 6 engine. Never thought I'd see the day when Go Ahead London trainers were gaining a new lease of life!
You might want to add Lolynes T819/820RFG were sold to First Kernow
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Post by jenkinsbuses on Jun 7, 2021 16:01:36 GMT
Purfleet in May as follows : VEHICLES IN. From RATP London : Volvo B7TLs PG04WHT / WHV Scania’s YN08DHO / DHE / DHF / DHG / DHK YT59PBU From Tower Transit : E400s SN11BPU / BPV / BPX / BPY / BPZ / BRF / BRV / BRZ / BSO / BSU / BSV / BSX / BSY / BSZ/ BTE / BTO / BTU SN12EHC Volvo B9TL’s BN61MWZ / MXB / MXA / MXE / MXD / MXH / MXC / MXF / MXG / MXL BF62UYA / UYB / UYC / UYE / UYG From Lothian Buses : Volvo B9TL’s SN57GNO / GNP SN08BWJ / BWK / BWL / BWM / BWO / BWP / BWU / BWV / BWW / BWX / BWY / BWZ / BXA / BXB / BXC / BXD / BXE / BXF / BXG / BXH / BXJ / BXK / BXL / BXM. From Stagecoach Midlands : Solos KX55PFK / KX57KGA. From Golden Tours : Volvo B9TL’s BF62UYN / UYP BV13ZCZ BF63HEJ WB12POT. From Uno Buses : Tridents SN51SYR / SYY From First Essex : Trident LN51GMU. From Go-Ahead London : Volvo B12B YN55WSV. From 7 Sisters Bus and Coach : Tridents T819/20RFG. VEHICLES OUT. Volvo B9TL SN57GNJ DAF LJ51DKL : Transdev. Solo KX55PFK : Vectare, Loughborough. Spectra YJ51ZVM : St Andrews leisure, Rochester, Kent. Volvo B9TLs SN57GNF / GMV / GMY / GMZ : Wheelers Travel, Southampton. Volvo B9TL’s BJ11EBL / DTZ / EAO / DZZ : Tyrers Coaches, Adlington. Volvo B7TL’s LX54GZL / GZM : Fowlers Coaches, Holbeach Drove. Volvo B7TL’s W542WGH LX54GZH / GZN : GDS Travel , Long Sutton, Cambs. Volvo B9TL’s SN08BWJ / BWK / BWL : Als Coaches, Liverpool. Volvo B7L’s EU05DVW / DVX : Seven Sisters bus and coach, Eastbourne. Volvo B9TL’s SK07CBF / CBY / CCD / SN57DFC : Fords Coaches, Althorne Volvo B12B YN55WSV : Panther Travel, Harwich. Volvo B9TL’s SN08BWO / BWP / BWU / BXE / BXF / BXK : Brylaine Travel, Boston, Lincs. Volvo B9TL’s SN08BWM / BWV / BWW / BWX / BWZ / BXA / BXB : Stotts Travel, Oldham. Trident LV52HHO Volvo B7TL’s WR03YZV / YZW : C and G coaches, Peterborough. Volvo B11RTs BX65WDA / WDD Volvo B7RLE’s SN57DCX / DDF : Ipswich Buses. E400s LK58KHU / LK58CNV / LK57AXF : Warrington Buses ENSIGN FLEET. E200 601 sold to RedLine, Aylesbury. New 601 is an ex ADL demo, now registered E17SGN, classic E200 shape, but fitted with a Euro 6 engine. 601 is at Red Rose and Not Redline |
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