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Post by MoEnviro on Jun 25, 2017 16:15:53 GMT
345007 was out in service yesterday; the following workings should be a class 345 (Mon-Fri) this week: 2Z04 London Liverpool Street 10:35 to Shenfield 11:18 2Z05 Shenfield 11:39 to London Liverpool Street 12:25 Note: Weekend workings are sporadic at the moment due to engineering work.
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Post by planesandtrains on Jun 25, 2017 16:29:23 GMT
Hmm, me thinks a trip out to sample the 345 and the high speed service this week. Those 345's already look to be excellent trains from what I have seen on video.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 25, 2017 17:45:47 GMT
Hmm, me thinks a trip out to sample the 345 and the high speed service this week. Those 345's already look to be excellent trains from what I have seen on video. They are indeed. Far superior to the terrible Class 315s that currently operate, maybe they'll actually make the line useable given some time. The announcement system is very iBus like, however it's far better hearing Emma Hignett over Julie Berry who isn't my favourite announcer. |
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Post by snoggle on Jun 29, 2017 18:20:40 GMT
Managed to catch the 345 this morning at Ilford for a ride to Shenfield. It was running a little late because of congestion elsewhere on the line. Not overly crowded as it's an extra working but there were some obvious "railway" people trying it out plus a smattering of enthusiasts. Even a TfL Rail employee got in position to snap it as it arrived at Ilford. Initial impression is that it looks quite sleek and different "in the metal". Having seem loads of photos from the first run I was not surprised by the interior finish. The doors slide quietly but close with a reassuring clunk. Nice and cool inside and plenty of space. The overall decor is fairly subdued in terms of floor, panel and ceiling colours. The seat moquette is fairly bright but I expect it will be a dog to keep clean. The bay transverse seats are reasonably comfortable but nothing to write home about but then no modern train seats are exactly wonderful. I had a quick sit on the longitudinal seats and thankfully there are some that are more generously proportioned for us fat lumps.  Again nothing thrilling but quite as hard as concrete as the 378s and the arm rests seem better designed that the metal sticks that have plagued tube refurbs and new stocks of late. The train is exceptionally quiet so if you like your trains to hum and throb and to "talk" you'll be disappointed. No space invader noises like a class 700.  Very spritely acceleration for what is a commuter train so there is clear potential there for the trains to make up time if they need to and also to exploit what I assume will be fairly quick inter station run times on the new sections of Crossrail. I took it to Shenfield where I availed myself of Greater Anglia and headed to the land of old and deregulated buses called Chelmsford, Colchester and Ipswich courtesy of class 360s and main line loco hauled trains.   |
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Post by snowman on Jun 29, 2017 20:33:19 GMT
Managed to catch the 345 this morning at Ilford for a ride to Shenfield. It was running a little late because of congestion elsewhere on the line. Not overly crowded as it's an extra working but there were some obvious "railway" people trying it out plus a smattering of enthusiasts. Even a TfL Rail employee got in position to snap it as it arrived at Ilford. Initial impression is that it looks quite sleek and different "in the metal". Having seem loads of photos from the first run I was not surprised by the interior finish. The doors slide quietly but close with a reassuring clunk. Nice and cool inside and plenty of space. The overall decor is fairly subdued in terms of floor, panel and ceiling colours. The seat moquette is fairly bright but I expect it will be a dog to keep clean. The bay transverse seats are reasonably comfortable but nothing to write home about but then no modern train seats are exactly wonderful. I had a quick sit on the longitudinal seats and thankfully there are some that are more generously proportioned for us fat lumps. Again nothing thrilling but quite as hard as concrete as the 378s and the arm rests seem better designed that the metal sticks that have plagued tube refurbs and new stocks of late. The train is exceptionally quiet so if you like your trains to hum and throb and to "talk" you'll be disappointed. No space invader noises like a class 700. Very spritely acceleration for what is a commuter train so there is clear potential there for the trains to make up time if they need to and also to exploit what I assume will be fairly quick inter station run times on the new sections of Crossrail. I took it to Shenfield where I availed myself of Greater Anglia and headed to the land of old and deregulated buses called Chelmsford, Colchester and Ipswich courtesy of class 360s and main line loco hauled trains. Regarding the spritely acceleration, the design specs are for an acceleration rate of 1m/s/s Not sure which 2 coaches are currently missing, but the 9 car version has 8 motor cars and a trailer in middle. A fully loaded (nominal 1500 passenger) train will weigh over 100 tonnes (about 30%) more which might cut the acceleration. I think there is option to lengthen to 10 or 11 cars if required, which might reduce power/weight ratio if trailers get added. |
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Post by mondraker275 on Jun 30, 2017 7:48:47 GMT
Managed to catch the 345 this morning at Ilford for a ride to Shenfield. It was running a little late because of congestion elsewhere on the line. Not overly crowded as it's an extra working but there were some obvious "railway" people trying it out plus a smattering of enthusiasts. Even a TfL Rail employee got in position to snap it as it arrived at Ilford. Initial impression is that it looks quite sleek and different "in the metal". Having seem loads of photos from the first run I was not surprised by the interior finish. The doors slide quietly but close with a reassuring clunk. Nice and cool inside and plenty of space. The overall decor is fairly subdued in terms of floor, panel and ceiling colours. The seat moquette is fairly bright but I expect it will be a dog to keep clean. The bay transverse seats are reasonably comfortable but nothing to write home about but then no modern train seats are exactly wonderful. I had a quick sit on the longitudinal seats and thankfully there are some that are more generously proportioned for us fat lumps. Again nothing thrilling but quite as hard as concrete as the 378s and the arm rests seem better designed that the metal sticks that have plagued tube refurbs and new stocks of late. The train is exceptionally quiet so if you like your trains to hum and throb and to "talk" you'll be disappointed. No space invader noises like a class 700. Very spritely acceleration for what is a commuter train so there is clear potential there for the trains to make up time if they need to and also to exploit what I assume will be fairly quick inter station run times on the new sections of Crossrail. I took it to Shenfield where I availed myself of Greater Anglia and headed to the land of old and deregulated buses called Chelmsford, Colchester and Ipswich courtesy of class 360s and main line loco hauled trains. Regarding the spritely acceleration, the design specs are for an acceleration rate of 1m/s/s Not sure which 2 coaches are currently missing, but the 9 car version has 8 motor cars and a trailer in middle. A fully loaded (nominal 1500 passenger) train will weigh over 100 tonnes (about 30%) more which might cut the acceleration. I think there is option to lengthen to 10 or 11 cars if required, which might reduce power/weight ratio if trailers get added. The new stations can hold up to 12 carriages. |
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Post by snowman on Jun 30, 2017 8:01:10 GMT
Regarding the spritely acceleration, the design specs are for an acceleration rate of 1m/s/s Not sure which 2 coaches are currently missing, but the 9 car version has 8 motor cars and a trailer in middle. A fully loaded (nominal 1500 passenger) train will weigh over 100 tonnes (about 30%) more which might cut the acceleration. I think there is option to lengthen to 10 or 11 cars if required, which might reduce power/weight ratio if trailers get added. The new stations can hold up to 12 carriages. Yes and no. The 345s use longer 23m vehicles, instead of 20.5m so would be about 250m in 11 car formations, but standard platforms for 12 car are 245m I think some platforms at Liverpool Street are currently only 165m, hence the temporary short 7 car versions. The new stations are not initially being fitted with platform edge doors for cars 10 and 11, just have fixed blanks. The Heathrow stations are only about 210m so restricted to 9 cars (maybe could have selective door operation) |
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Post by MoEnviro on Jul 1, 2017 17:03:02 GMT
2Z04 London Liverpool Street 10:35 to Shenfield 11:18 2Z05 Shenfield 11:39 to London Liverpool Street 12:25 Note: Weekend workings are sporadic at the moment due to engineering work. Same again next week, for anyone who is yet to experience one. |
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Post by routew15 on Feb 3, 2018 20:04:23 GMT
Of recent a lot of new rolling stock have lights directed at the pantograph arm but the CLASS 345 does not appear to have this.
Is there a particular reason why?
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Again nothing thrilling but quite as hard as concrete as the 378s and the arm rests seem better designed that the metal sticks that have plagued tube refurbs and new stocks of late. The train is exceptionally quiet so if you like your trains to hum and throb and to "talk" you'll be disappointed. No space invader noises like a class 700. 
Very spritely acceleration for what is a commuter train so there is clear potential there for the trains to make up time if they need to and also to exploit what I assume will be fairly quick inter station run times on the new sections of Crossrail. I took it to Shenfield where I availed myself of Greater Anglia and headed to the land of old and deregulated buses called Chelmsford, Colchester and Ipswich courtesy of class 360s and main line loco hauled trains. 
