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Post by mondraker275 on Jun 28, 2017 17:26:13 GMT
The problem I have with this and some of the other similar plans is they are pro cycling and not really pro anything else. Not even really all that pro pedestrian. Cycling is still relatively niche, and will probably remain thus. A bit more pro pedestrian and bus stuff would be most welcome. Most of the time I carry far too much to cycle, but bus travel remains a viable option until they slow me down to a point where I will add to congestion by buying myself a little car, because it sure won't be a bicycle!... I think it is strategic plan of TfL and councils to advertise any scheme as pro pedestrian when clearly its about pro cycling 99%. I have nothing against improving cycling, but I dont need to be lied to about pedestrian improvement. I genuinely have not been anywhere and thought, oh this is better for me as a pedestrian. Like hell in some places its worse, like the Copenhagen crossings or crossing at Elephant and Castle, or crossing cycle lane to get to a bus stop.
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Post by sid on Jun 28, 2017 17:41:35 GMT
The problem I have with this and some of the other similar plans is they are pro cycling and not really pro anything else. Not even really all that pro pedestrian. Cycling is still relatively niche, and will probably remain thus. A bit more pro pedestrian and bus stuff would be most welcome. Most of the time I carry far too much to cycle, but bus travel remains a viable option until they slow me down to a point where I will add to congestion by buying myself a little car, because it sure won't be a bicycle!... I think it is strategic plan of TfL and councils to advertise any scheme as pro pedestrian when clearly its about pro cycling 99%. I have nothing against improving cycling, but I dont need to be lied to about pedestrian improvement. I genuinely have not been anywhere and thought, oh this is better for me as a pedestrian. Like hell in some places its worse, like the Copenhagen crossings or crossing at Elephant and Castle, or crossing cycle lane to get to a bus stop. Well it's all subjective, personally I think Elephant & Castle is much better now from a pedestrian perspective and those horrible subways are a thing of the past. This incident in Croydon highlights the dangers of subways m.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/demand-for-safety-in-london-s-rape-capital-as-no-arrest-made-months-after-croydon-underpass-assault/story-30406700-detail/story.html
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