Post by twobellstogo on Jul 8, 2017 20:34:22 GMT
To put my point into context, I think we're all pretty much agreed that the key route is going to be the 301, which will run with single deckers every 15 minutes. By contrast, the 180 extension will use double deckers on a ten minute frequency through an industrial estate.
If we look at similar estates in the area, Nathan Way is coming down to a x15 frequency using single deckers. Fishers Way, which has a food distribution centre of the kind cited in the technical note, is losing its service altogether. That's why it feels like overkill to me. Yes, the 180 will create new links, but most of those (Erith, Abbey Wood, Plumstead, Woolwich) would also be created by sending the 469 that way. I'd rather use the resource elsewhere, perhaps even on the aforementioned 301.
As for Erith Quarry, are residents likely to look towards Abbey Wood and Woolwich? Or south towards Bexleyheath? And realistically, won't they start a Crossrail journey by walking to Erith station and connecting at Abbey Wood? The Jubilee Line was different as you had to go out of your way to get there - Crossrail is connected in to existing rail services to a much greater extent.
I see 180 more as improving the lot of people along the east end of Lower Road and West Street. Erith Quarry seems to me to be somewhere to plonk the 180 to avoid terminating it in Erith. Which is why I think the 469 could be more imaginatively used : if 180 is extended to Erith, which in itself is good, the 469 really is too much extra, IMO.
My personal preference for the Quarry is a westward extension of the 428, as I know someone will ask!