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Post by snowman on Feb 25, 2018 7:14:40 GMT
I heard the dreaded word blizzard for Thursday in the latest long term outlook from the BBC. Never heard that before in recent times. Yes I heard that too. Getting mightly fed up now and it hasn't even turned up yet. If we do get a lot of snow then it's going to be very interesting to see how TfL, Network Rail / TOCs and local councils cope. London is not good at coping with severe prolonged snowfall and ice. Will be fascinating to see how cycle lanes / CSHs are cleared of snow. We have new cycle lanes adjacent to footpaths locally and Waltham Forest are notoriously useless at gritting / clearing pavements so if they remain as bad as before then all the cycle paths will be impassable which will bring the pains on I am sure. And remember how bus services fell to bits a few weeks ago when we got some fleeting snow? If we get days and days of it and ongoing freezing temperatures then a lot of people are going to struggle to get anywhere if we replicate the mess that happened a few weeks back. Thameslink's new GN to Southern area services probably won't run after Tuesday either as GTR are already warning of reduced timetables from Tuesday onwards! I know 14 day forecasts are unreliable but this cr*p weather is forecast to last nigh on a fortnight with no sign of any relief at all. Kingston also has some of those cycle lanes but they also have a mini gritter, normally used in the town centre (it’s a quad bike with a gritting trailer) Latest appears to suggest the heaviest snow will be Thursday-Friday (becoming more sleety Friday), before turning back icy next weekend. The wet sleety snow will probably be more disruptive than powder snow during the week Didn’t the railway use coffee filters or ladies tights when there is powder snow (stops it entering motor vents, then thawing and later re-freezing as the ice inside then damages the motor). I remember the Southen region running 2 car de icing trains, formed of HAL ? motor cars (2HALs were 1930s trains built for Sussex Coast electrification schemes), Aren’t Network Rail GP Tramms used nowadays
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 25, 2018 7:26:35 GMT
Looks like from Monday London will see snow on and off all week. I would fully expect the rural Orpington and Biggin Hill routes to be the first to be suspended from Monday early evening if the forecast is accurate. 144 and W3 will suffer... or basically any route with hills like the 174 or 258 we know the bad weather is coming, usually there's tons of sand and grit when there is no snow, then none when it actually does snow... papers unsure if it will hit tonight, or 4pm Monday. Hopefully they will grit outside bus garage entrances, they failed to do so in 2010 when we had the last major snow. www.metcheck.com is a site I've used which is fairly accurate. It thinks from tonight, through Monday onwards The Beast from the East will reach us. Work will be interesting in the van tomorrow as even a dusting throws us into chaos
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Post by capitalomnibus on Feb 25, 2018 11:31:49 GMT
Looks like from Monday London will see snow on and off all week. I would fully expect the rural Orpington and Biggin Hill routes to be the first to be suspended from Monday early evening if the forecast is accurate. 144 and W3 will suffer... or basically any route with hills like the 174 or 258 we know the bad weather is coming, usually there's tons of sand and grit when there is no snow, then none when it actually does snow... papers unsure if it will hit tonight, or 4pm Monday. Hopefully they will grit outside bus garage entrances, they failed to do so in 2010 when we had the last major snow. www.metcheck.com is a site I've used which is fairly accurate. It thinks from tonight, through Monday onwards The Beast from the East will reach us. Work will be interesting in the van tomorrow as even a dusting throws us into chaos Well we were meant o be having snow today as been said earlier in the week and now we have clear blue skies and bright sunshine. Got more snow and frost in my freezer. What a load of bullocks. What next they would tell us a tornado is on the way.
Fit winter tyres to your van then.
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Post by sid on Feb 25, 2018 11:38:30 GMT
144 and W3 will suffer... or basically any route with hills like the 174 or 258 we know the bad weather is coming, usually there's tons of sand and grit when there is no snow, then none when it actually does snow... papers unsure if it will hit tonight, or 4pm Monday. Hopefully they will grit outside bus garage entrances, they failed to do so in 2010 when we had the last major snow. www.metcheck.com is a site I've used which is fairly accurate. It thinks from tonight, through Monday onwards The Beast from the East will reach us. Work will be interesting in the van tomorrow as even a dusting throws us into chaos Well we were meant o be having snow today as been said earlier in the week and now we have clear blue skies and bright sunshine. Got more snow and frost in my freezer. What a load of bullocks. What next they would tell us a tornado is on the way.
Fit winter tyres to your van then.
Well you've been listening to different forecasts to me because I haven't heard any forecast for snow today, just cold which (shock horror!) is exactly what we've got. Maybe snow late tomorrow or Tuesday but no guarantees. What were you saying about a load of bullocks?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 13:08:40 GMT
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 25, 2018 14:20:42 GMT
Not too sure who Amber is but she and her mates at the Met Office have got it wrong so far Though perhaps this slightly milder feeling, gorgeous day is to lull us into a false sense of security? As for snow tyres, capitalomnibus no, it means they will give me more work. I've seen the bedlam when it snows and we've apparently got 72 hours of the stuff falling light at first before blizzards on Thursday. Being "snowed in" puts me on online training modules in my nice warm house because it's too treacherous outside
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 14:32:15 GMT
Not too sure who Amber is but she and her mates at the Met Office have got it wrong so far Though perhaps this slightly milder feeling, gorgeous day is to lull us into a false sense of security? As for snow tyres, capitalomnibus no, it means they will give me more work. I've seen the bedlam when it snows and we've apparently got 72 hours of the stuff falling light at first before blizzards on Thursday. Being "snowed in" puts me on online training modules in my nice warm house because it's too treacherous outside so it's not Just me , I am surprised it's not that cold out. Its so nice and sunny with not a cloud in sight.
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Post by vjaska on Feb 25, 2018 14:58:54 GMT
I’ve read elsewhere that potentially, London could see snow everyday from Monday to Friday - I so hope so and not because I want people to be disrupted or anything because I don’t but just so it can actually settle in Brixton for once.
TfL have apparently said they are ready for the possibility of snow between Monday to Friday and that the capital won’t grind to a halt so we shall see.
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Post by VWH1414 on Feb 25, 2018 15:56:40 GMT
I agree with vjaska about it snowing for the next week, will be nice to see snow around for once Hopefully my school will close, although I'm doubtful of that if the 642 continues, although if it doesn't and theres disruption on the 107 & 142 aswell then I might get lucky (Considering the trouble the 107 & 142 had from the last lot of snow, it seems likely there will be disruption on them routes if we get any snow) Overall though it would be nice to see a bit of snow around, haven't had any long lasting snow for a while
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Feb 25, 2018 16:11:41 GMT
Hopefully my school will close, Not the best attitude is it
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Post by ServerKing on Feb 25, 2018 16:53:42 GMT
I’ve read elsewhere that potentially, London could see snow everyday from Monday to Friday - I so hope so and not because I want people to be disrupted or anything because I don’t but just so it can actually settle in Brixton for once. TfL have apparently said they are ready for the possibility of snow between Monday to Friday and that the capital won’t grind to a halt so we shall see. Scenes from Brent and Harrow tomorrow afternoon Sadiq resigns after not being prepared enough as nearly every bus service is impacted by the weather which "took them by surprise". Having blown the cash on diesel tax schemes, he announces there is no money to buy extra grit. Diane Abbott takes over as Interim Mayor before hasty elections in April.
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Post by VWH1414 on Feb 25, 2018 16:57:35 GMT
Hopefully my school will close, Not the best attitude is it Probably not, but you know gotta hope for it
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Post by snoggle on Feb 25, 2018 17:05:41 GMT
I’ve read elsewhere that potentially, London could see snow everyday from Monday to Friday - I so hope so and not because I want people to be disrupted or anything because I don’t but just so it can actually settle in Brixton for once. TfL have apparently said they are ready for the possibility of snow between Monday to Friday and that the capital won’t grind to a halt so we shall see.Famous last words but I suspect they have been "leant on" by City Hall to say this after the frankly ludicrous non performance when we had a little bit of snow north of the Thames a few weeks back. That amply demonstrated that people weren't ready and that because it happened on a Sunday people were not in place to deal with gritting etc. The simple fact is that if we get 2-4 days of snow as is being widely forecast then London will grind to a halt. It will do so largely because a lot of people will try to drive and they have very little experience of driving in snow which means they crash or drive so slowly that all the traffic crawls at 1/4 mph. If the snow also affects bordering counties then transport services will be affected because a fair proportion of transport staff have to drive to work and may well be snowed in themselves. We are long past the days when people could walk in the snow to work at the bus garage or rail depot. Ditto for the people who clear the snow and fix asset breakdowns. We are simply not properly equipped to deal with lots of snow in this country despite the fact the stuff falls out of the sky every year. Heck people are so daft they don't even get a shovel out and clear their paths and the pavement in front of their houses as a courtesy. Us boring gits from the North do this as a matter of habit because it helps things go a little bit more smoothly for people and because we were used to snow year after year. It also stops pavements becoming ice rinks if snow is moved out of the way.
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Post by twobellstogo on Feb 25, 2018 17:30:08 GMT
Obviously a fast moving weather story, but a look at my various favourite weather apps and websites suggest we’ll get away with a very cold but mostly dry Monday. The main snow periods currently forecast are about as disastrous and disruptive as we could possibly get : late afternoon and through the evening rush hour on both Tuesday and Thursday - am particularly looking forward to commuting from Molesey to Bexleyheath on the latter day... Friday probably snowy early and through much of the morning and early afternoon, but that’s on a warm front and temperatures at the weekend will recover slightly to 6 or 7 Celsius.
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Post by arj on Feb 25, 2018 18:52:05 GMT
I agree with vjaska about it snowing for the next week, will be nice to see snow around for once Hopefully my school will close, although I'm doubtful of that if the 642 continues, although if it doesn't and theres disruption on the 107 & 142 aswell then I might get lucky (Considering the trouble the 107 & 142 had from the last lot of snow, it seems likely there will be disruption on them routes if we get any snow) Overall though it would be nice to see a bit of snow around, haven't had any long lasting snow for a while Stanmore and Bushey always seem to see snow pretty heavily due to being so high above sea level. That normally sees off 142/258 as well as the 107.
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