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Post by snowman on Dec 13, 2017 6:52:15 GMT
Great quiz! Thanks snowman. However, regarding question 12, I might be wrong but there aren't any N prefix night routes that are situated entirely outside the North and South Circulars, they all at least cross it for a short distance to their respective destinations. There is one route that doesn't cross it, but fails the "run along" exclusion. I'm out of ideas but got one for the the rest. I'm going to run with there being three N prefixed routes outside of Central London. Have modified question 12 so plenty to choose from now
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Post by galwhv69 on Dec 13, 2017 20:29:54 GMT
for question 17,does an overground station count?
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Post by snowman on Dec 13, 2017 21:21:43 GMT
for question 17,does an overground station count? Yes, any train, tube, Overground or DLR station
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Post by snowman on Dec 16, 2017 6:57:39 GMT
Reminder that the Christmas Quiz is open, still plenty of time to send in answers
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Post by snowman on Dec 19, 2017 16:21:49 GMT
Reminder to everyone Quiz is open Got until 31st Dec to enter
If a moderator can unpin the 2015 quiz to stop it appearing above, I would appreciate it.
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Post by snowman on Dec 25, 2017 8:29:25 GMT
Happy Christmas
And for those finding the LVF and Turns & observations thread thin today, why not do the Christmas Quiz at the start of this 5read.
If you don’t know some answers, can always try Mr Google
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Post by snowman on Dec 28, 2017 20:25:22 GMT
Reminder to all those that planned to enter the Christmas Quiz to PM their answers soon
Closes on Sunday
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Post by snowman on Dec 30, 2017 21:47:36 GMT
Reminder that Quiz closes tomorrow evening
Please PM answers if you want to enter
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Post by snowman on Jan 1, 2018 0:29:25 GMT
Thank you to all those who entered
Will announce results as soon as I can
Likely to be 2 or 3 days before I have enough time to fully summarise them. (Too tipsy tonight to start)
Happy 2018
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Post by snowman on Jan 3, 2018 11:32:23 GMT
Christmas Quiz 2017 Results (corrected)
29 Participants entered
Jackpot 17 points (low score of 1 per answer) no-one
1st Green Kitten 45 2nd TR* 46 3rd. 1tocanadawater 47 4th twobellstogo 48 5th vjaska 49 6th Hassaan 50 7= Alex 53 7= galwhv69 53 9th networker93 55 10= busocculation 56 10= Eastlondoner62 56 12= selondongal 57 12= snogged 57 14th kmkcheng 60 15th RandomBusesGirl 62 16th arj 66 17th TA1 68 18= enviroPB 69 18= rmz19 69 20th The Urbanite 71 21= ob1234 75 21= rgd975 75 23rd 725DYE 79 24th paulsw2 80 25th RT3062 83 26th Zubin434 84 27th DT 11 89 28th craigbus1982 90 29th John 94
Questions and Answers
1) A Wrightbus model name, currently on sale in UK or Ireland
Streetcar RTV : 1 point kmkcheng NRM new routemaster : 1 point enviroPB SRM : 2 points arj & RandomBusesGirl Streetlite Max : 3 points Green Kitten, TA1 & TR* Streetdeck : 3 points 725DYE, Alex & john Streetair EV : 3 points 1tocanadawater, networker93 & RT3062 Streetvibe : 3 points galwhv69, selondongal & snoggle Gemini 3 : 6 points craigbus1982, Eastlondoner62, ob1234, paulsw2, rmz19, & Zubin434 Streetlite : 7 points busocculation, DT11, Hassaan, rgd976, The Urbanite, twobellstogo & vjaska
2) An Underground station with “Park” as part of its name (must be served by a tube line. Rail only stations or DLR only stations don’t count)
Hyde Park Corner : 1 point rgd976 St James's Park : 1 point The Urbanite Upton Park : 1 point Eastlondoner62 Ravenscourt Park : 1 point 1tocanadawater Westbourne Park : 1 point Alex Tufnell Park : 1 point TR* Canons Park : 2 points arj & enviroPB Chiswick Park : 2 points networker93 & twobellstogo Park Royal : 2 points paulsw2 & snoggle Newbury Park : 2 points busocculation & Hassaan Wimbledon Park : 2 points 725DYE & Zubin434 Elm Park : 3 points john, selondongal, & RandomBusesGirl Moor Park : 3 points DT11, rmz19 & RT3062 Woodside Park : 3 points Green Kitten, kmkcheng & TA1 Green Park : 4 points craigbus1982, galwhv69, ob1234 & vjaska
3) A bus garage that currently operates more than 10 routes (not including school routes or night routes), for clarity a 24hour route without N prefix is valid
HT Holloway : 1 point TR* MB Orpington : 1 point galwhv69 QB Battersea : 1 point vjaska PB Potters Bar : 1 point (I have allowed the 2 non TfL routes) craigbus1982 EB Epsom : 2 points 1tocanadawater & snoggle NP Northumberland Park : 2 points Alex & Green Kitten W Cricklewood : 2 points arj & TA1 UX Uxbridge : 2 points kmkcheng & RT3062 TB Bromley : 2 points paulsw2 & rgd976 WH West Ham : 2 points enviroPB & RandomBusesGirl SW Stockwell : 2 points 725DYE & rmz19 TL Catford : 2 points Eastlondoner62 & twobellstogo RR River Road : 3 points busocculation, DT11 & john TF Fulwell : 5 points Hassaan, networker93, ob1234, selondongal & Zubin434 WL Walworth : 20 points (only has 9 routes) The Urbanite
4) A bus route that travels along (all or part of) Regent Street (must have at least one stop in Regent Street). Routes that just cross it, or use very short length but don’t have a stop don’t count.
N3 : 1 point john N113 : 1 point sellondongal N136 : 1 point The Urbanite 94 : 2 points kmkcheng & networker93 453 : 2 points busocculation & RT3062 C2 : 2 points Hassaan & vjaska N15 : 2 points arj & RandomBusesGirl 22 : 3 points 1tocanadawater, paulsw2 & TA1 23 : 3 points Green Kitten, rmz19 & TR* 88 : 3 points alex, DT11 & twobellstogo 139 : 3 points craigbus1982, EastLondoner62 & ob1234 159 : 3 points 725DYE, galwhv69 & Zubin434 N18 : 3 points enviroPB, rgd976 & snoggle
5) A Tramlink stop which also serves a rail station (has a BR double arrow symbol on the map).
East Croydon : 2 points 725DYE & twobellstogo Mitcham Junction : 3 points enviroPB, Hassaan & selondongal Wimbledon : 3 points arj, craigbus1982 & TR* Beckenham Junction : 4 points Alex, EastLondoner62, networker93 & ob1234 Elmers End : 4 points busocculation, Green Kitten, The Urbanite & vjaska Birkbeck : 13 points 1tocanadawater, DT11, galwhv69, john, kmkcheng, paulsw2, RandomBusesGirl, rgd976, rmz19, RT3062, snoggle, TA1, & Zubin434
6) A current bus route in 400 series (400-499) that is operated by double deck vehicles (normally 100% double deck, not a route where double decks occasionally work)
403 : 1 point rmz19 412 : 1 point EastLondoner62 414 : 1 point TR* 418 : 1 point greenkitten 427 : 1 point arj 482 : 1 point Hassaan 483 : 1 point DT11 492 : 1 point snoggle 498 : 1 point RT3062 401 : 2 points selondongal & twobellstogo 405 : 2 points craigbus1982 & Zubin434 417 : 2 points galwhv69 & kmkcheng 422 : 2 points Alex &enviroPB 460 : 2 points 1tocanadawater & TA1 468 : 2 points 725DYE & ob1234 496 : 2 points busocculation & john 432 : 3 points networker93, paulsw2 & vjaska 467 : 3 points RandomBusesGirl, rgd976 & The Urbanite
7) An Operator name and the bus code (or numeric series if no letter code) who use hybrid Enviro 400s (classic, MMC or City style)
Abellio - 25xx : 1 point enviroPB GoAhead – EHV : 1 point galwhv69 RATP – ADH : 1 point RandomBusesGirl Tower Transit – DNH : 1 point TR* Arriva – HA : 3 points 725DYE, 1tocanadawater & paulsw2 CT Plus – HEA / 2500 : 3 points networker93, RT3062 & snoggle Stagecoach - 12xxx : 3 points busoculation, Green Kitten & twobellstogo CT Plus - 25xx : 4 points DT11, ob1234, The Urbanite & vjaska GoAhead – EH : 4 points Alex, rgd976, selondongal & Zubin434 Metroline – TEH : 6 points arj, EastLondoner62, Hassaan, kmkcheng, rmz19 & TA1 Arriva 133 : 20 points (not a type code) craigbus1982 N205 : 20 points (not a type code) john
8) A bus route that crosses Blackfriars bridge
N89 : 3 points 1tocanadawater, paulsw2 & snoggle N63 : 4 points Green Kitten, RandomBusesGirl & rgd976 45 : 5 points 725DYE, craigbus1982, Hassaan, ob1234 & vjaska 63 : 7 points galwhv69, kmkcheng, Networker93, rmz19, TR*, twobellstogo & Zubin434 388 : 10 points Alex, arj, busocculation, DT11, EastLondoner62, john, RT3062, selondongal, TA1, & The Urbanite
9) Any Rail station (Overground, TfL or ex British Rail, but not a tube only or DLR station), that is on a travelcard zone boundary and officially in 2 fare zones. Answer should include station name and the 2 zones.
Elephant & Castle (zones 1-2) : 1 point paulsw2 Hendon (zone 3-4) : 1 point kmkcheng Herne Hill (zones 2-3) : 1 point vjaska Hoxton (zone 1-2) : 1 point galwhv69 Kew Gardens (zone 3-4) : 1 point 1tocanadawater Putney (zones 2-3) : 1 point rgd976 Vauxhall (zones 1-2) : 1 point networker93 Willesden Junction (zones 2-3) : 1 point arj Clapton (zone 2-3) : 2 points ob1234 & rmz19 Lewisham (zone 2-3) : 2 points craigbus1982 & The Urbanite North Dulwich (zones 2-3) : 2 points 725DYE & Green Kitten Stratford (zones 2-3) : 2 points john & twobellstogo Woodgrange Park (zone3-4) : 2 points Alex & sellondogal Bowes Park (zone 3-4) : 3 points Hassaan, snoggle & TA1 Manor Park (zones 3-4) : 3 points busocculation, enviroPB & RandomBusesGirl Crystal Palace (zone 3-4) : 4 points DT11, EastLondon62, TR* & Zubin434 Canning Town (zones 2-3) : 20 points (no rail service anymore) RT3062
10) A route which changed Operator during 2017 at expiry of contract (so excludes novated contracts, surrendered contracts, renamed operators etc), state the route, old operator name and new operator name.
15 Stagecoach – Go Ahead : 1 point twobellstogo 64 Go Ahead – Arriva : 1 point vjaska 70 Tower Transit – RATP : 1 point networker93 101 Stagecoach – Go Ahead : 1 point TA1 103 Stagecoach – Arriva : 1 point john 115 Stagecoach – Go Ahead : 1 point Alex 120 RATP – Metroline : 1 point Hassaan 167 : GoAhead – Stagecoach : 1 point EastLondoner62 176 Arriva – Go Ahead : 1 point craigbus1982 195 Metroline – Abellio : 1 point rgd976 222 RATP – Metroline : 1 point rmz19 258 Arriva – RATP : 1 point kmkcheng 397 Arriva – CT Plus : 1 point snoggle 605 RATP – Sullivan : 1 point 1tocanadawater N19 Go Ahead – Arriva : 1 point Green Kitten W9 Metroline – Sullivans : 1 point RT3062 45 Go Ahead – Abellio : 2 points galwhv69 & The Urbanite 131 RATP – Go Ahead : 2 points paulsw2 & TR* 382 Arriva – Metroline : 2 points arj & RandomBusesGirl 455 Abellio – Go Ahead : 2 points 725DYE & Zubin434 462 Go Ahead – Stagecoach : 2 points busocculation & enviroPB 188 Abellio – Go Ahead : 3 points DT11, ob1234 & selondongal
11) A bus route operated by New Bus for London (LT) that crosses the Thames, requires both the route number, and name of bridge.
48 – London Bridge : 1 point Green Kitten 59 – Waterloo Bridge : 1 point TR* 68 - Waterloo Bridge : 1 point The Urbanite 148 – Westminster Bridge : 1 point arj 159- Westminster Bridge : 1 point john 168 – Waterloo Bridge 1 point 1tocanadawater 453 – Westminster Bridge : 1 point selondongal N3 – Lambeth Bridge : 1 point ob1234 3 – Lambeth Bridge : 2 points DT11 & vjaska 12 – Westminster Bridge : 2 points TA1 & twobellstogo 21 – London Bridge : 2 points Alex & Eastlondoner62 76 – Waterloo Bridge : 2 points craigbus1982 & RT3062 88 – Vauxhall Bridge : 2 points galwhv69 & snoggle 149 – London Bridge : 2 points busocculation & networker93 137- Chelsea Bridge : 3 points enviroPB, Hassaan &kmkcheng 211 – Westminster Bridge : 3 points RandomBusesGirl, rgd976 & rmz19 88 - Westminster Bridge : 20 points (wrong bridge) Zubin434 159 – Lambeth Bridge : 20 points (wrong bridge) 725DYE 448 – London Bridge : 20 points (wrong type, correct bridge) paulsw2
12) A night bus route (including 24 hour routes) that is exclusively outside the North and South Circular roads. TfL services only (so services in other cities excluded). Must not cross, or run along part of North or South Circular, must not be central London as that’s not exclusively outside.
64 : 1 point The Urbanite 128 : 1 point busocculation 264 : 1 point vjaska 296 : 1 point TA1 E1 : 1 point 1tocanadawater EL1 : 1 point Eastlondoner62 N213 : 1 point galwhv69 N264 : 1 point Zubin434 105 : 2 points Hassaan & Green Kitten 140 : 2 points arj & kmkcheng 281 : 2 points selondongal & TR* 119 : 3 points RandomBusesGirl, paulsw2 & twobellstogo 111 : 4 points craigbus1982, enviroPB, Networker93 & rgd976 365 : 5 points Alex, john, rmz19, RT3062 & snoggle N86 : 20 points (Stratford inside North Circular) 725DYE & ob1234 N199 : 20 points (Trafalgar Square inside North Circular) DT11
13) A (day) bus route that serves Euston bus station
18 : 1 point twobellstogo 30 : 1 point Hassaan 73 : 1 point Alex 59 : 2 points 1tocanadawater & snoggle 10 : 3 points enviroPB, ob1234 & RandomBusesGirl 91 : 3 points kmkcheng, rgd976 & TR* 205 : 4 points DT11, Green Kitten, Networker93 & RT3062 476 : 4 points john, paulsw2, rmz19 & vjaska 68 : 5 points 725DYE, galwhv69, selondongal, The Urbanite & Zubin434 253 : 5 points arj, busocculation , craigbus1982, Eastlondoner62 & TA1
14) A bus route that crosses a railway level crossing (not a tram line or works siding), answer requires route and location (or name) of level crossing
152 – Mitcham Eastfields : 2 points galwhv69 & twobellstogo 434 – Whyteleaf : 2 points DT11 & Zubin434 969 - Mortlake Station : 2 points The Urbanite & vjaska H28 – Wood Lane Isleworth : 3 points 1tocandawater, Eastlondoner62 & Hassaan 111 – Hampton station : 4 points craigbus1982, networker93, rgd976 & TR* 121 – Ordanance Rd Enfield Lock : 3points 725DYE, busocculation, kmkcheng 440 – Bollo Lane Acton : 4 points arj, ob1234, paulsw2 &rmz19 K5 – West Barnes Lane Motspur Park : 7 points Alex, craigbus1982, RandomBusesGirl, RT3062, snogged, selondongal & TA1 275 - Highams Park 20 points (doesn’t cross it) John No answer 20 points enviroPB
15) A bus route that has “Hospital” as part of the destination name (last stop must be at a stop which includes word hospital in its location description. Please include both route and hospital name in your answer
92 - Ealing Hospital : 1 point 1tocanadawater 116 – Ashford Hospital : 1 point rgd976 166- Epsom Hospital : 1 point 725DYE 173 – King George Hospital : 1 point ob1234 186 – Northwick Park Hospital : 1 point enviroPB 187 - Central Middlesex Hospital : 1 point TA1 193 – Romford Queens Hospital : 1 point john 228 – Central Middlesex Hospital : 1 point rmz19 229 - Queen Mary’s Hospital : 1 point DT11 261 – Princess Royal University Hospital : 1 point paulsw2 264 - Tooting, St George's Hospital : 1 point The Urbanite 280 - St Georges Hospital : 1 point galwhv69 282 – Ealing Hospital : 1 point Hassaan 282 - Mount Vernon Hospital : 1 point Alex 286 - Queen Marys Hospital : 1 point selondongal 291 – Queen Elizabeth Hospital : 1 point twobellstogo 318 – North Middlesex Hospital : 1 point vjaska 396 - King George Hospital : 1 point Eastlondoner62 498 – Romford Queens Hospital : 1 point snoggle H11 – Mount Vernon Hospital : 1 point kmkcheng K2 – Kingston Hospital : 1 point TR* K4 - Kingston Hospital : 1 point networker93 N83 – Ealing Hospital : 1 point Green Kitten 293 – Epsom Hospital : 2 points RandomBusesGirl & Zubin434 362 - King Georges Hospital : 2 points arj & busocculation 491 – North Middlesex Hospital : 2 points craigbus1982 & RT3062
16) A bus route that terminates at Canning Town station (routes that serve it, but continue dont count).
N550 : 1 point Hassaan 69 : 2 points 725DYE & Eastlondon62 147 : 2 points busocculation & john 300 : 3 points 1tocanadawater, galwhv69 & selondongal 5 : 4 points craigbus1982, ob1234, twobellstogo & Zubin 434 330 : 4 points Alex, Green Kitten, TA1& The Urbanite 309 : 5 points enviroPB, RT3062, snoggle, TR* & vjaska 323 : 7 points arj, DT11, kmkcheng, networker93, RandomBusesGirl, rmz19 & paulsw2 N551 : 20 points (Gallions reach) rgd976
17) Any (tube, rail, Overground, DLR) station (within the 6 fare zones) with “Green” as part of its name.
Cutty Sark for Maritime Greenwich : 1 point john Green Park : 1 point 725DYE Parsons Green : 1 point RT3062 Slade Green : 1 point rgd976 Bounds Green : 2 points networker 93 & rmz19 Harringay Green Lanes : 2 points galwhv69 & kmkcheng Hither Green : 2 points DT11 & Zubin434 Palmers Green : 2 points snoggle & vjaska Stepney Green : 2 points Alex & busocculation Kensal Green : 3 points RandomBusesGirl, selondongal & The Urbanite South Greenford : 3 points Green Kitten, paulsw2 & TA1 Drayton Green : 4 points 1tocandawater, Eastlondoner62, Hassaan & twobellstogo Willesden Green : 4 points arj, enviroPB, ob1234 & TR* Newbury Park : 20 points (doesn’t contain Green) craigbus1982
Hopefully I have scored it correctly
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jan 3, 2018 11:50:13 GMT
Thank You snowman for the wonderful quiz, a few of them certainly made me think quite hard. Congratulations to Green Kitten for winning! I'm also very sorry to be the person to do this but the N551 doesn't terminate at Canning Town, it terminates at Gallions Reach
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 3, 2018 12:24:20 GMT
snowman I did ammend my answer to Question 12 as you sent me a PM asking me to do so. In regards to the operator changes 2017 Question the 64 changed operator in 2016.
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Post by snoggle on Jan 3, 2018 12:26:50 GMT
I think you have put my answer for Q14 in the wrong list. I put forward the K5. I would argue that the 275 does NOT cross a level crossing. It turns just before the crossing at Highams Park. Not aware there is another level crossing on the route. No TfL routes in Highams Park actually cross the rail lines - they all turn just before it. Sorry if that alters the scores for people - I think it gives me a worse score. I'd have done much better if I hadn't gone for Birkbeck (tramlink qtn) or the N18 for the Regent St bus route.
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Post by enviroPB on Jan 3, 2018 12:44:14 GMT
I would also like to point out that the N551 does not terminate at Canning Town; its final eastbound destination is Gallions Reach, Shopping Park. The N550 is the only N-prefix night route to terminate at Canning Town station.
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Post by twobellstogo on Jan 3, 2018 14:12:29 GMT
I’ll take a podium place all day long! Well done Green Kitten for the win, and thanks for organising, snowman. Thank goodness I went for East Croydon rather than Birkbeck which I so nearly went for instead! 😂
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