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Post by busman on Jul 24, 2020 1:58:26 GMT
I guess the 301 will continue to carry fresh air for at least another 12 months then 😂
Joking aside, it’s embarrassing for this country to deliver this project so late. December 2018 was the original date. COVID is just the latest in a long line of sorry excuses. Shambles.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jul 24, 2020 9:25:59 GMT
Further delays to the Elizabeth Line Summer 2021 date is now not achievable for the central core section — linkMay 2022 at the earliest according to one of the news channels - sorry I can’t remember which : and that of course assumes covid continues its decline. looks like 20never now
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2020 9:46:07 GMT
I guess the 301 will continue to carry fresh air for at least another 12 months then 😂 Joking aside, it’s embarrassing for this country to deliver this project so late. December 2018 was the original date. COVID is just the latest in a long line of sorry excuses. Shambles. And looking more and more likely the 304 might not start under the current 104 tender. I wonder if they will do a whole new set of consultations for the bus changes as things will have changed in the 4 years since the original proposals.
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Post by greenboy on Jul 24, 2020 10:07:24 GMT
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Post by routew15 on Jul 24, 2020 11:23:22 GMT
link to tweet from Crossrail CEOI dont understand how it can be taken seriously when he says “now more than ever with the crisis we face London needs this railway”, this is the same railway that is not due for completion for another 2 years!
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Post by redbus on Jul 24, 2020 19:48:42 GMT
link to tweet from Crossrail CEOI dont understand how it can be taken seriously when he says “now more than ever with the crisis we face London needs this railway”, this is the same railway that is not due for completion for another 2 years! Agreed, and unless the economy gets going and people go back to public transport, London will have spare capacity on existing lines, never mind needing the central section of Crossrail.
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Post by greenboy on Jul 24, 2020 21:44:02 GMT
link to tweet from Crossrail CEOI dont understand how it can be taken seriously when he says “now more than ever with the crisis we face London needs this railway”, this is the same railway that is not due for completion for another 2 years! Agreed, and unless the economy gets going and people go back to public transport, London will have spare capacity on existing lines, never mind needing the central section of Crossrail. Exactly and as it's turned out the Crossrail delays don't really matter too much....... there are 12 coach Thameslink trains with a capacity of more than 1,500 carrying about 50 people at peak times.
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Post by LondonNorthern on Jul 25, 2020 7:55:28 GMT
Agreed, and unless the economy gets going and people go back to public transport, London will have spare capacity on existing lines, never mind needing the central section of Crossrail. Exactly and as it's turned out the Crossrail delays don't really matter too much....... there are 12 coach Thameslink trains with a capacity of more than 1,500 carrying about 50 people at peak times. One argument could be it could relieve the current TFL Rail crowds which are immense due to how densely populated areas are between Stratford and Romford, it probably picked up some passengers from the 25 as well. What will be interesting to see is if the Elizabeth Line will relieve capacity from the Central Line as well
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2020 11:29:41 GMT
Agreed, and unless the economy gets going and people go back to public transport, London will have spare capacity on existing lines, never mind needing the central section of Crossrail. Exactly and as it's turned out the Crossrail delays don't really matter too much....... there are 12 coach Thameslink trains with a capacity of more than 1,500 carrying about 50 people at peak times. Peaks must be very different in my part of east London. Passed Canning Town station at 6pm last night and it was pretty much back to how it was pre pandemic, no social distancing possible at the bus stops towards East Ham / Barking! seen pictures of packed Jubilee Lines too both during and outside peaks.
Things going back to normal slowly but surely. Still think we will see a big return in September once schools open and people return to work from staycations.
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Post by greenboy on Jul 25, 2020 11:43:25 GMT
Exactly and as it's turned out the Crossrail delays don't really matter too much....... there are 12 coach Thameslink trains with a capacity of more than 1,500 carrying about 50 people at peak times. Peaks must be very different in my part of east London. Passed Canning Town station at 6pm last night and it was pretty much back to how it was pre pandemic, no social distancing possible at the bus stops towards East Ham / Barking! seen pictures of packed Jubilee Lines too both during and outside peaks.
Things going back to normal slowly but surely. Still think we will see a big return in September once schools open and people return to work from staycations.
I can't comment on East London but Waterloo and London Bridge are very quiet even at peak times although there probably has been a very slight increase in people travelling.
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Post by M1104 on Aug 21, 2020 11:35:47 GMT
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Post by richard on Aug 21, 2020 14:28:45 GMT
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Post by ronnie on Aug 21, 2020 19:55:28 GMT
The queen will be embarrassed to have her name enshrined with this massively delayed project .... So till Aug 2018 people were sure it was going to open in Dec 2018 - and now 2022 wil ve taken with a pinch of salt. I will believe it when the line opens
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Post by richard on Aug 21, 2020 20:04:04 GMT
The queen will be embarrassed to have her name enshrined with this massively delayed project .... So till Aug 2018 people were sure it was going to open in Dec 2018 - and now 2022 wil ve taken with a pinch of salt. I will believe it when the line opens I agree not forgetting the Jubilee opened two years later . But like the Jubilee people have forgotten that it did is this history repeating itself?
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Post by John tuthill on Aug 21, 2020 20:19:22 GMT
The queen will be embarrassed to have her name enshrined with this massively delayed project .... So till Aug 2018 people were sure it was going to open in Dec 2018 - and now 2022 wil ve taken with a pinch of salt. I will believe it when the line opens By the time it opens it will probably be called 'The William Line', or worse. (What's his sons name?)
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