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Post by buspete on Dec 22, 2021 1:03:08 GMT
The next train from Abbey Wood to Paddington has been delayed by approximately 3 years and counting. This is so dreadful that there is still no clue when this is going to open. Crossrail is at the 3 year late mark now. as you've said (many) times now Until then, the whole Crossrail project was incredibly complicated even before construction started with trains having to work with 3 types of signalling system, new rolling stock with new software etc etc Likewise, the JLE was a complicated project with the introduction of Platform Edge Doors and some of the delays were due to construction of a tunnel in Heathrow collapsing in 1994 I have said it many times as it has been appallingly project managed and is now 3 years late, because of this and other reasons it means Crossrail 2 will not happen, which would take enormous pressure off Victoria, which is underserved by Underground services.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Dec 22, 2021 9:57:51 GMT
as you've said (many) times now Until then, the whole Crossrail project was incredibly complicated even before construction started with trains having to work with 3 types of signalling system, new rolling stock with new software etc etc Likewise, the JLE was a complicated project with the introduction of Platform Edge Doors and some of the delays were due to construction of a tunnel in Heathrow collapsing in 1994 I have said it many times as it has been appallingly project managed and is now 3 years late, because of this and other reasons it means Crossrail 2 will not happen, which would take enormous pressure off Victoria, which is underserved by Underground services. It is also an under-sight that the Elizabeth line did not serve Oxford Circus instead of Bond St. That way it would have connect with the Victoria instead of meeting up again with the Central and Jubilee at Bond St.
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Post by wirewiper on Dec 22, 2021 10:03:16 GMT
I have said it many times as it has been appallingly project managed and is now 3 years late, because of this and other reasons it means Crossrail 2 will not happen, which would take enormous pressure off Victoria, which is underserved by Underground services. It is also an under-sight that the Elizabeth line did not serve Oxford Circus instead of Bond St. That way it would have connect with the Victoria instead of meeting up again with the Central and Jubilee at Bond St. I think (although I could be wrong on this) that there were concerns about Oxford Circus being able to handle the numbers of passengers who would transfer there. The Hanover Square entrance/exit to Bond Street Elizabeth Line is close to Oxford Circus and I would expect it to be made an out-of-station interchange for ticketing purposes.
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Post by MartyJ on Dec 22, 2021 13:34:02 GMT
The main reason that it wasn't an interchange with Oxford Circus was capacity issues and overwhelming the station, it's also why they did not construct a connection with the Bakerloo and Victoria. With the nearby proximity of Hannover Square it does make interchange between the stations fairly easy and it would be helpful if this was advertised as an out-of-station connection on the tube map.
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Post by Busboy105 on Jan 1, 2022 13:59:54 GMT
This is so dreadful that there is still no clue when this is going to open. First half of 2022. SeeĀ current plan. Noticed something interesting that I forgot to post regarding this article. So its says in the autumn the Heathrow/Reading services will extend past Paddington to Abbey Wood whilst the Shenfield services will be extended to Paddington. Will that mean they will no longer serve Liverpool Street?
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Post by wirewiper on Jan 1, 2022 14:26:13 GMT
Noticed something interesting that I forgot to post regarding this article. So its says in the autumn the Heathrow/Reading services will extend past Paddington to Abbey Wood whilst the Shenfield services will be extended to Paddington. Will that mean they will no longer serve Liverpool Street? If you mean the main line terminus (the Eizabeth Line will of course have its own platforms underground at Liverpool Street) the plan is to retain some peak-time trains, probably 4tph and most likely shorts to and from Gidea Park.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Jan 2, 2022 18:10:20 GMT
Noticed something interesting that I forgot to post regarding this article. So its says in the autumn the Heathrow/Reading services will extend past Paddington to Abbey Wood whilst the Shenfield services will be extended to Paddington. Will that mean they will no longer serve Liverpool Street? If you mean the main line terminus (the Eizabeth Line will of course have its own platforms underground at Liverpool Street) the plan is to retain some peak-time trains, probably 4tph and most likely shorts to and from Gidea Park. If I'm correct, the new platforms use the section of track via Whitechapel whereas any peak shorts will miss Whitechapel. Interestingly, no Shenfield services will run to Reading/Maidenhead. Will this happen in the future?
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Post by richard on Jan 2, 2022 18:13:20 GMT
If you mean the main line terminus (the Eizabeth Line will of course have its own platforms underground at Liverpool Street) the plan is to retain some peak-time trains, probably 4tph and most likely shorts to and from Gidea Park. If I'm correct, the new platforms use the section of track via Whitechapel whereas any peak shorts will miss Whitechapel. Interestingly, no Shenfield services will run to Reading/Maidenhead. Will this happen in the future? That's correct the two middle platforms are now in the history books.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Jan 2, 2022 18:15:36 GMT
If I'm correct, the new platforms use the section of track via Whitechapel whereas any peak shorts will miss Whitechapel. Interestingly, no Shenfield services will run to Reading/Maidenhead. Will this happen in the future? That's correct the two middle platforms are now in the history books. Will the Elizabeth Line platforms at Whitechapel be numbered 3 and 4 to fill the void?
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Post by wirewiper on Jan 2, 2022 18:17:02 GMT
If you mean the main line terminus (the Eizabeth Line will of course have its own platforms underground at Liverpool Street) the plan is to retain some peak-time trains, probably 4tph and most likely shorts to and from Gidea Park. If I'm correct, the new platforms use the section of track via Whitechapel whereas any peak shorts will miss Whitechapel. Interestingly, no Shenfield services will run to Reading/Maidenhead. Will this happen in the future? Yes the peak shorts will stick to the current main lines and will run non-stop between Stratford and Liverpool Street. The Elizabeth Line tunnels diverge from the main lines to the west of Stratford and there is no loop back onto the main lines. Before electrification, GER suburban trains towards Shenfield used to stop at Bethnal Green Junction (now just plain Bethnal Green) which is only a few minutes walk from Whitechapel. However these platforms were closed after the Central Line Extension was opened in 1946 and were demolished to allow the lines to be realigned for faster running and electrification. The station was much simplified in the 1980s and it would be very difficult and expensive to restore those platforms today, especially for just a handful of peak trains. Shenfield to Reading services are still planned for the final stage of opening.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 2, 2022 19:47:00 GMT
If I'm correct, the new platforms use the section of track via Whitechapel whereas any peak shorts will miss Whitechapel. Interestingly, no Shenfield services will run to Reading/Maidenhead. Will this happen in the future? That's correct the two middle platforms are now in the history books. Middle platforms? I think you are confusing it for the District line. The Elizabeth line has yet to serve Whitechapel yet.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jan 2, 2022 21:12:30 GMT
Will the Elizabeth Line platforms at Whitechapel be numbered 3 and 4 to fill the void? All core platforms Paddington-Whitechapel will be lettered; A B etc
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Post by wirewiper on Jan 10, 2022 17:12:08 GMT
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jan 12, 2022 0:21:08 GMT
The 315's still solder on, saw one this evening giving sterling service.
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Post by wirewiper on Jan 12, 2022 10:41:24 GMT
Berkeley Homes has proposed a new Elizabeth Line station near Twyford, if their proposal for a new 2,500 home development to the east of the town goes ahead. If built, the station, provisionally named "Twyford Gardens", would be immediately to the south of the new development and would incorporate an interchange for local buses. Although the developer claims there is a "positive business case" for the new station, it is likely to be several years before it is built - if it materialises at all. Source: www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/plans-for-an-additional-elizabeth-line-station-in-berkshire-50706/
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