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Post by capitalomnibus on Jun 4, 2022 18:15:14 GMT
I imagine the Elizabeth Line will be very handy for those trying to avoid the tube strike on Monday! This will be a game changer for passengers and means the strike have even less impact. The same I was thinking. All those queues at Liverpool Street station on Bishopsgate would be hugely eliminated and would allow people to go through to some of the Circle and Central line destinations with just possibly a short walk.
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 5, 2022 8:05:23 GMT
I imagine the Elizabeth Line will be very handy for those trying to avoid the tube strike on Monday! This will be a game changer for passengers and means the strike have even less impact. Tottenham Court Road, Farringdon, Moorgate/Liverpool Street, Whitechapel could still be closed if insufficient LU staff are available
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Post by twobellstogo on Jun 5, 2022 11:00:12 GMT
I imagine the Elizabeth Line will be very handy for those trying to avoid the tube strike on Monday! This will be a game changer for passengers and means the strike have even less impact. Tottenham Court Road, Farringdon, Moorgate/Liverpool Street, Whitechapel could still be closed if insufficient LU staff are available And do correct me if I’m wrong, but am I right in saying that two or more stations closed in a row on an underground section of Elizabeth line would stop the service running at all over some of the line?
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Post by Dstock7080 on Jun 5, 2022 11:32:29 GMT
Tottenham Court Road, Farringdon, Moorgate/Liverpool Street, Whitechapel could still be closed if insufficient LU staff are available And do correct me if I’m wrong, but am I right in saying that two or more stations closed in a row on an underground section of Elizabeth line would stop the service running at all over some of the line? On LU (no known Elizabeth Line) it’s 3 consecutive un-staffed stations; stations can be closed with insufficient staff but remain available for emergency detrainment if staff in attendance.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 5, 2022 12:32:41 GMT
I imagine the Elizabeth Line will be very handy for those trying to avoid the tube strike on Monday! This will be a game changer for passengers and means the strike have even less impact. Tottenham Court Road, Farringdon, Moorgate/Liverpool Street, Whitechapel could still be closed if insufficient LU staff are available The TfL website, and TfL both seem to be continuously making it known on all their methods of communication the Elizabeth Line will be unaffected. I wonder if there's a plan to deploy staff that do turn up onto the Elizabeth Line sections of stations.
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Post by rif153 on Jun 5, 2022 21:51:00 GMT
Hopefully this time Crossrail will mean the overcrowding on buses isn't as hellish as it was last time, I vividly remember being one a 148 that was leaving passengers behind back when the March strikes were on.
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Post by Busboy105 on Jun 6, 2022 9:12:09 GMT
Will the Elizabeth line carry on to T5 when T4 reopens?
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Post by Busboy105 on Jun 6, 2022 9:12:35 GMT
Will the Elizabeth line carry on to T5 when T4 reopens?
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Post by kmkcheng on Jun 6, 2022 11:06:18 GMT
Will the Elizabeth line carry on to T5 when T4 reopens? Yes. The current services that are terminating at T2&3 should be extended to T4 when it reopens
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Post by busman on Jun 6, 2022 23:14:13 GMT
On Sunday, I took my first trip on the Lizzie line from Abbey Wood to Tottenham Court Road. The direct route and frequency of the service cut around 30 minutes from the usual travel time. Also the sweeping corners and aesthetics at Tottenham Court Road are really pleasing to the eye - the designers have really made concrete loveable in my eyes.
But…and I’m going to say something controversial here, because it is at odds with what people on here and on social media are saying - I was not really wowed by the actual speed of the trains, quietness or even the trains themselves (yes it was my first ride on a class 345). It just felt like a trip on the RER, the Munich rail network or a modern line in SE Asia. I was a little underwhelmed if I’m honest. Don’t get me wrong, the Lizzie line is a fantastic and much needed addition to the London network but to me it just felt like we are finally playing catching up with countries with more modern infrastructure. Overall I was pretty glad that I decided not to wake up in the middle of the night to queue for the first train to Paddington!
Hopefully the Lizzie line whets the nation’s appetite for high quality modern infrastructure projects built for the long term, replacing reluctance and short-term thinking about such matters. Yes HS2, I’m looking at you.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 7, 2022 0:33:23 GMT
But…and I’m going to say something controversial here, because it is at odds with what people on here and on social media are saying - I was not really wowed by the actual speed of the trains, quietness or even the trains themselves (yes it was my first ride on a class 345). It just felt like a trip on the RER, the Munich rail network or a modern line in SE Asia. I was a little underwhelmed if I’m honest. Don’t get me wrong, the Lizzie line is a fantastic and much needed addition to the London network but to me it just felt like we are finally playing catching up with countries with more modern infrastructure. I actually think the above plus everyone else being wowed actually ties into each other - we are playing catch up to countries as you rightly say but because this is relatively new stuff here, people like me and others are wowed by it so I don't think it's controversial at all TBH. The only countries I've used a train outside of England is Scotland whilst I've rode the LUAS In Dublin which is a tram so that's my excuse
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 7, 2022 7:26:34 GMT
On Sunday, I took my first trip on the Lizzie line from Abbey Wood to Tottenham Court Road. The direct route and frequency of the service cut around 30 minutes from the usual travel time. Also the sweeping corners and aesthetics at Tottenham Court Road are really pleasing to the eye - the designers have really made concrete loveable in my eyes. But…and I’m going to say something controversial here, because it is at odds with what people on here and on social media are saying - I was not really wowed by the actual speed of the trains, quietness or even the trains themselves (yes it was my first ride on a class 345). It just felt like a trip on the RER, the Munich rail network or a modern line in SE Asia. I was a little underwhelmed if I’m honest. Don’t get me wrong, the Lizzie line is a fantastic and much needed addition to the London network but to me it just felt like we are finally playing catching up with countries with more modern infrastructure. Overall I was pretty glad that I decided not to wake up in the middle of the night to queue for the first train to Paddington! Hopefully the Lizzie line whets the nation’s appetite for high quality modern infrastructure projects built for the long term, replacing reluctance and short-term thinking about such matters. Yes HS2, I’m looking at you. Completely agree here. The Lizzie Line is nothing special compared to what has now been the standard for tens of years. If anything it also makes you appreciate how much of a cut price scheme projects like the Northern Line extension have been. If someone who is used to vastly better networks sees the state of them they'd assume it was built in the 80s. The Dubai metro I think is a good example of how things should be done, obviously adjusting for scale. All stations are air conditioned and in complete shelter with PSDs found on every platform. The stations all look like well thought out buildings as opposed to bare concrete walls, and they're all air conditioned too.
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 7, 2022 8:45:12 GMT
Heathrow Terminal 4 reopens on 14th June, Elizabeth Line trains will operate to and from the Terminal in passenger service from the same date. The trains currently shown as terminating/starting at Terminals 2/3 will be extended to and from Terminal 4.
Some Piccadilly Line trains will also serve Terminal 4 in passenger service from the same date.
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Post by rif153 on Jun 9, 2022 7:47:39 GMT
But…and I’m going to say something controversial here, because it is at odds with what people on here and on social media are saying - I was not really wowed by the actual speed of the trains, quietness or even the trains themselves (yes it was my first ride on a class 345). It just felt like a trip on the RER, the Munich rail network or a modern line in SE Asia. I was a little underwhelmed if I’m honest. Don’t get me wrong, the Lizzie line is a fantastic and much needed addition to the London network but to me it just felt like we are finally playing catching up with countries with more modern infrastructure. Overall I was pretty glad that I decided not to wake up in the middle of the night to queue for the first train to Paddington! I have to say in places I’ve found the stations are a little underwhelming. I know there are space constraints but I’m concerned the new walkway at Whitechapel might not be wide enough to handle future passengers volumes especially as it’s also the route down to the Overground platforms. There’s doubtless good reasons why there isn’t one but I think Whitechapel would’ve benefited from an entrance at the eastern end, the gateline didn’t look very wide. Paddington is an impressive station but the platform seems a bit on the narrow side especially for when the railway is fully up and running.
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 9, 2022 8:00:26 GMT
But…and I’m going to say something controversial here, because it is at odds with what people on here and on social media are saying - I was not really wowed by the actual speed of the trains, quietness or even the trains themselves (yes it was my first ride on a class 345). It just felt like a trip on the RER, the Munich rail network or a modern line in SE Asia. I was a little underwhelmed if I’m honest. Don’t get me wrong, the Lizzie line is a fantastic and much needed addition to the London network but to me it just felt like we are finally playing catching up with countries with more modern infrastructure. Overall I was pretty glad that I decided not to wake up in the middle of the night to queue for the first train to Paddington! I have to say in places I’ve found the stations are a little underwhelming. I know there are space constraints but I’m concerned the new walkway at Whitechapel might not be wide enough to handle future passengers volumes especially as it’s also the route down to the Overground platforms. There’s doubtless good reasons why there isn’t one but I think Whitechapel would’ve benefited from an entrance at the eastern end, the gateline didn’t look very wide. Paddington is an impressive station but the platform seems a bit on the narrow side especially for when the railway is fully up and running. Whitechapel was a very difficult and constrained site. Having an entrance at the eastern end (I presume you mean off Cambridge Heath Road, where the ventilator shaft is located) would have added extra construction and operating expense (staffing two seperate entrances instead of one) to the project without bringing any tangible economic benefit.
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