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Post by SILENCED on Feb 11, 2020 14:24:30 GMT
Compare that to a London MMC ... #London3rdRateBuses! Electric buses are not so great if they are as basic as a London bus inside. Fact is London buses are some of the most basically spec'ed vehicles coming of the UK production lines. Have something like that in London and it will be completely ruined in two weeks. A fight will probably soon break out over who gets to use the air charge docks as well. That said you probably don't need all this luxury in London for most routes, many people don't ride really long distances like they do outside of London. The issue in London is the service is too slow and there's too much traffic which puts people off. London buses are functional and it makes sense to attract people back with a usable service rather than wasting it on unnecessary bells and whistles. Agree to a certain extent, but a pleasant travelling environment will also attract customers ... it is more akin to the interior of a car than a London Bus ... is that the kind of person we want to attract to buses, or are you saying London's buses should just be targeted at the dross of society? To be honest, only time I normally use buses now is when going out and expecting to drink ... maybe if not travelling at peak time, if they offered similar standards, I might use the bus more ... and I am just a single person. Depends how serious TfL are about wanting to increase ridership. There current policy seems to be doing everything to deter it. London is so covered by 4&5G ... WiFi in London is not needed and can be omitted, as that is an ongoing (revenue) cost, whilst everything else will be an upfront (capital) cost.
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Post by snowman on Feb 11, 2020 14:33:25 GMT
Compare that to a London MMC ... #London3rdRateBuses! Electric buses are not so great if they are as basic as a London bus inside. Fact is London buses are some of the most basically spec'ed vehicles coming of the UK production lines. Have something like that in London and it will be completely ruined in two weeks. A fight will probably soon break out over who gets to use the air charge docks as well. That said you probably don't need all this luxury in London for most routes, many people don't ride really long distances like they do outside of London. The issue in London is the service is too slow and there's too much traffic which puts people off. London buses are functional and it makes sense to attract people back with a usable service rather than wasting it on unnecessary bells and whistles. Agree London buses are bit sparse on gimmicks, like seats Easy decision, shall I take car, or uncomfortably stand on a bus in London, are they serious about attracting passengers, its not 1920 anymore
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 11, 2020 18:30:52 GMT
YY69 TNF will be the new dedicated vehicle for the Lower Caversham Shuttle 27/29 which is to be rebanded as "little berry" - it's colours mirror those used on the berry routes 23/24 (Caversham circulars). YY69 TNE is in generic livery aa the back up vehicle and can be used on other routes such as the "little oranges" 19a/b/c
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Post by vjaska on Feb 11, 2020 19:09:07 GMT
Have something like that in London and it will be completely ruined in two weeks. A fight will probably soon break out over who gets to use the air charge docks as well. That said you probably don't need all this luxury in London for most routes, many people don't ride really long distances like they do outside of London. The issue in London is the service is too slow and there's too much traffic which puts people off. London buses are functional and it makes sense to attract people back with a usable service rather than wasting it on unnecessary bells and whistles. Agree London buses are bit sparse on gimmicks, like seats Easy decision, shall I take car, or uncomfortably stand on a bus in London, are they serious about attracting passengers, its not 1920 anymore The difference between London & places like Reading is the returns - operators have to offer this stuff to grow their ridership whereas in London, it is not as necessary to do so because the bus in London has long been far more a necessity for people than outside where the car was allowed to take over greatly. London’s current problems are mainly congestion & regulation - there are others such as the barmy ban on tip up seats but if you solve those two main ones along with starting up proper investment, ridership would increase again.
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Post by greenboy on Feb 11, 2020 20:57:37 GMT
Have something like that in London and it will be completely ruined in two weeks. A fight will probably soon break out over who gets to use the air charge docks as well. That said you probably don't need all this luxury in London for most routes, many people don't ride really long distances like they do outside of London. The issue in London is the service is too slow and there's too much traffic which puts people off. London buses are functional and it makes sense to attract people back with a usable service rather than wasting it on unnecessary bells and whistles. Agree London buses are bit sparse on gimmicks, like seats Easy decision, shall I take car, or uncomfortably stand on a bus in London, are they serious about attracting passengers, its not 1920 anymore Exactly, absolutely nothing to encourage anybody to switch to bus travel in fact if TfL are trying to discourage bus travel they couldn't be doing a better job.
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Post by vjaska on Feb 11, 2020 23:24:59 GMT
Agree London buses are bit sparse on gimmicks, like seats Easy decision, shall I take car, or uncomfortably stand on a bus in London, are they serious about attracting passengers, its not 1920 anymore Exactly, absolutely nothing to encourage anybody to switch to bus travel in fact if TfL are trying to discourage bus travel they couldn't be doing a better job. Whilst I agree with the fact TfL look like they are actively discouraging people away from the network and like these 'mod cons', just sorting out congestion & the frequent regulation of services would help ridership increase as these seem to the two biggest factors at play here. Longer buses on a number of routes would go a long way to help as well.
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Post by greenboy on Feb 11, 2020 23:32:21 GMT
Exactly, absolutely nothing to encourage anybody to switch to bus travel in fact if TfL are trying to discourage bus travel they couldn't be doing a better job. Whilst I agree with the fact TfL look like they are actively discouraging people away from the network and like these 'mod cons', just sorting out congestion & the frequent regulation of services would help ridership increase as these seem to the two biggest factors at play here. Longer buses on a number of routes would go a long way to help as well. They're not mod cons they are pretty much bog standard nowadays.
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Post by vjaska on Feb 11, 2020 23:45:34 GMT
Whilst I agree with the fact TfL look like they are actively discouraging people away from the network and like these 'mod cons', just sorting out congestion & the frequent regulation of services would help ridership increase as these seem to the two biggest factors at play here. Longer buses on a number of routes would go a long way to help as well. They're not mod cons they are pretty much bog standard nowadays. Hence why I put special emphasis on the words
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 16, 2020 10:52:16 GMT
YY69 TNF will be the new dedicated vehicle for the Lower Caversham Shuttle 27/29 which is to be rebanded as "little berry" - it's colours mirror those used on the berry routes 23/24 (Caversham circulars). YY69 TNE is in generic livery aa the back up vehicle and can be used on other routes such as the "little oranges" 19a/b/c Just to confirm - fleetnumbers are 679 (YY69TNF in little berry livery) and 680 (YY69 TNE in generic livery). 680 has the new mirrorless "SmartVision" CCTV technology and will be assessed against 679 which has conventional mirrors. It is reported that regular drivers on the "little oranges" and Winnersh Triangle Park & Ride services will receive formal training in its use, but any driver that wishes to familiarise themselves with the system can ask to do so. Source: Bus News - Week 15/02/20, LondonsTransport - Google Groups
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Post by wirewiper on Apr 2, 2020 11:15:23 GMT
Coronavirus update:
Reading Buses introduced Saturday timetables across its network on Mondays to Fridays from Monday 23rd March. Additional journeys operated on Greenwave as route 61r about every 30 minutes, serving Green Park, Reading International Business Park and Mereoak Park & Ride. Route 1 operated via Arlington Business Park in Theale. There were no journeys to and from Tadley AWE and route X3 to Shinfield Park was suspended.
Winnersh Triangle Park & Ride 500 was suspended after Friday 27th March. The car park remains open and "Parksaver" tickets are valid on routes 4/X4 which stop nearby on the A329 Reading Road.
From Monday 30th March Reading Buses introduced emergency timetables across its network. In general routes operate to Sunday frequencies on Mondays to Saturdays, but start and finish at Monday-Saturday times. There are some other items of interest: - Routes which do not operate on a Sunday generally operate to the Saturday timetable on Mondays to Saturdays. - Greenwave continues to operate to the "enhanced Saturday" timetable that was introduced on Mondays to Fridays, including the additional 61r journeys. - The emergency timetable for routes 2/2a reintroduces peak-time journeys for Tadley AWE. - Sunday services continue to the usual timetable, except routes 17, 21 and 26 which have a reduced Sunday daytime frequency. n - Night journeys on routes 5, 6, 17, 21 and 26 have been suspended with these routes finishing around 23.00-24.00 and recommencing from 04.00 (03.50 on route 26). - Route X3 remains suspended. Routes 15a and 27 are also suspended and routes 15 and 26 terminate at Calcot Sainsbury's as IKEA is closed. - Green Line 702 only operates between Slough and London Victoria, apart from a handful of journeys to and from Reading. Green Line 703 and Thames Valley Buses 2 provide partial alternatives between Slough and Windsor/Legoland. - Of interest is that on Sunday morning, the 05.13 route 6a journey from Reading Station to Whitley Wood is duplicated as far as Tesco Distribution Depot, to provide extra capacity so that staff travelling to work there (who are of course essential workers) can social distance. This is not an issue for shift changes at other times as there are two or three journeys via Tesco Depot.
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Post by wirewiper on Apr 2, 2020 17:32:00 GMT
Coronavirus update: Reading Buses introduced Saturday timetables across its network on Mondays to Fridays from Monday 23rd March. Additional journeys operated on Greenwave as route 61r about every 30 minutes, serving Green Park, Reading International Business Park and Mereoak Park & Ride. Route 1 operated via Arlington Business Park in Theale. There were no journeys to and from Tadley AWE and route X3 to Shinfield Park was suspended. Winnersh Triangle Park & Ride 500 was suspended after Friday 27th March. The car park remains open and "Parksaver" tickets are valid on routes 4/X4 which stop nearby on the A329 Reading Road. From Monday 30th March Reading Buses introduced emergency timetables across its network. In general routes operate to Sunday frequencies on Mondays to Saturdays, but start and finish at Monday-Saturday times. There are some other items of interest: - Routes which do not operate on a Sunday generally operate to the Saturday timetable on Mondays to Saturdays. - Greenwave continues to operate to the "enhanced Saturday" timetable that was introduced on Mondays to Fridays, including the additional 61r journeys. - The emergency timetable for routes 2/2a reintroduces peak-time journeys for Tadley AWE. - Sunday services continue to the usual timetable, except routes 17, 21 and 26 which have a reduced Sunday daytime frequency. n - Night journeys on routes 5, 6, 17, 21 and 26 have been suspended with these routes finishing around 23.00-24.00 and recommencing from 04.00 (03.50 on route 26). - Route X3 remains suspended. Routes 15a and 27 are also suspended and routes 15 and 26 terminate at Calcot Sainsbury's as IKEA is closed. - Green Line 702 only operates between Slough and London Victoria, apart from a handful of journeys to and from Reading. Green Line 703 and Thames Valley Buses 2 provide partial alternatives between Slough and Windsor/Legoland. - Of interest is that on Sunday morning, the 05.13 route 6a journey from Reading Station to Whitley Wood is duplicated as far as Tesco Distribution Depot, to provide extra capacity so that staff travelling to work there (who are of course essential workers) can social distance. This is not an issue for shift changes at other times as there are two or three journeys via Tesco Depot. Reading Buses is following this up with even more severe service reductions from Monday 6th April, it is citing "no funding immediately available from Government or local authorities to support services". Routes 5, 6, 17 and 26 go down to half-hourly (with extra 6a journeys for Tesco Distribution Depot workers) with most other routes reducing to hourly if they have not already done so. Routes 1 (Newbury) and 2/2a (Mortimer Common) reduce to every 80-90 minutes although a morning and afternoon journey to Tadley AWE are retained. Route 4 (Bracknell) will not operate but route X4 will continue to operate hourly and Courtney Buses 171/172 will provide a partial alternative for Bracknell's Southern Estates.Route 7 (Fleet) is suspended apart from three return journeys a day between Reading and Riseley only (no service to Fleet). Green Line 702 is suspended. Connect Henley will continue until Thursday 9th April then will be suspended. There are also drastic reductions to evening and Sunday services. www.reading-buses.co.uk/coronavirus
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Post by wirewiper on Apr 3, 2020 14:56:41 GMT
Coronavirus update: Reading Buses introduced Saturday timetables across its network on Mondays to Fridays from Monday 23rd March. Additional journeys operated on Greenwave as route 61r about every 30 minutes, serving Green Park, Reading International Business Park and Mereoak Park & Ride. Route 1 operated via Arlington Business Park in Theale. There were no journeys to and from Tadley AWE and route X3 to Shinfield Park was suspended. Winnersh Triangle Park & Ride 500 was suspended after Friday 27th March. The car park remains open and "Parksaver" tickets are valid on routes 4/X4 which stop nearby on the A329 Reading Road. From Monday 30th March Reading Buses introduced emergency timetables across its network. In general routes operate to Sunday frequencies on Mondays to Saturdays, but start and finish at Monday-Saturday times. There are some other items of interest: - Routes which do not operate on a Sunday generally operate to the Saturday timetable on Mondays to Saturdays. - Greenwave continues to operate to the "enhanced Saturday" timetable that was introduced on Mondays to Fridays, including the additional 61r journeys. - The emergency timetable for routes 2/2a reintroduces peak-time journeys for Tadley AWE. - Sunday services continue to the usual timetable, except routes 17, 21 and 26 which have a reduced Sunday daytime frequency. n - Night journeys on routes 5, 6, 17, 21 and 26 have been suspended with these routes finishing around 23.00-24.00 and recommencing from 04.00 (03.50 on route 26). - Route X3 remains suspended. Routes 15a and 27 are also suspended and routes 15 and 26 terminate at Calcot Sainsbury's as IKEA is closed. - Green Line 702 only operates between Slough and London Victoria, apart from a handful of journeys to and from Reading. Green Line 703 and Thames Valley Buses 2 provide partial alternatives between Slough and Windsor/Legoland. - Of interest is that on Sunday morning, the 05.13 route 6a journey from Reading Station to Whitley Wood is duplicated as far as Tesco Distribution Depot, to provide extra capacity so that staff travelling to work there (who are of course essential workers) can social distance. This is not an issue for shift changes at other times as there are two or three journeys via Tesco Depot. Reading Buses is following this up with even more severe service reductions from Monday 6th April, it is citing "no funding immediately available from Government or local authorities to support services". Routes 5, 6, 17 and 26 go down to half-hourly (with extra 6a journeys for Tesco Distribution Depot workers) with most other routes reducing to hourly if they have not already done so. Routes 1 (Newbury) and 2/2a (Mortimer Common) reduce to every 80-90 minutes although a morning and afternoon journey to Tadley AWE are retained. Route 4 (Bracknell) will not operate but route X4 will continue to operate hourly and Courtney Buses 171/172 will provide a partial alternative for Bracknell's Southern Estates.Route 7 (Fleet) is suspended apart from three return journeys a day between Reading and Riseley only (no service to Fleet). Green Line 702 is suspended. Connect Henley will continue until Thursday 9th April then will be suspended. There are also drastic reductions to evening and Sunday services. www.reading-buses.co.uk/coronavirusGiven today's announcement that £167million is to be made available to support the bus industry for three months, there may be some last-minute changes to the planned services from 6th April with some journeys reinstated.
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Post by wirewiper on Apr 6, 2020 10:34:49 GMT
Reading Buses is following this up with even more severe service reductions from Monday 6th April, it is citing "no funding immediately available from Government or local authorities to support services". Routes 5, 6, 17 and 26 go down to half-hourly (with extra 6a journeys for Tesco Distribution Depot workers) with most other routes reducing to hourly if they have not already done so. Routes 1 (Newbury) and 2/2a (Mortimer Common) reduce to every 80-90 minutes although a morning and afternoon journey to Tadley AWE are retained. Route 4 (Bracknell) will not operate but route X4 will continue to operate hourly and Courtney Buses 171/172 will provide a partial alternative for Bracknell's Southern Estates.Route 7 (Fleet) is suspended apart from three return journeys a day between Reading and Riseley only (no service to Fleet). Green Line 702 is suspended. Connect Henley will continue until Thursday 9th April then will be suspended. There are also drastic reductions to evening and Sunday services. www.reading-buses.co.uk/coronavirus Given today's announcement that £167million is to be made available to support the bus industry for three months, there may be some last-minute changes to the planned services from 6th April with some journeys reinstated. It looks like the reductions went ahead after all. Newbury & District routes 1a/1c between Thatcham and Newbury were also suspended. Other Kennections and Newbury & District services continue to operate as normal as they are supported by West Berkshire Council. The routes of the "little oranges" 19a/19b/19c have been revised to provide additional links between Woodley and Lower Earley ASDA, presumably this is at the behest of Wokingham Borough Council which supports these services.
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Post by wirewiper on Apr 10, 2020 17:00:21 GMT
Newbury & District routes 1a/1c between Newbury and Thatcham are being reinstated on temporary timetables from Tuesday 14th April, now that the Government has come up with additional funding to support vital bus services. There will also be some minor changes to the 103 timetable.
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Post by wirewiper on May 7, 2020 16:49:44 GMT
Reading Buses is making a few changes to its covid-19 temporary timetables from Monday 11th May. There are changes to the times for routes 15, 16 and 17 and extra daytime short journeys on route 17 between the Town Centre and Norcot Junction to give a coordinated ten-minute frequency along Oxford Road on all three routes.
The Sunday covid-19 temporary timetables will operate on Holiday Friday 8th May.
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