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Post by snoggle on Mar 8, 2019 13:32:40 GMT
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Post by snowman on Mar 8, 2019 15:06:07 GMT
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Post by MoEnviro on Mar 8, 2019 15:22:49 GMT
Still awaiting new livery I assume?
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Post by vjaska on Mar 8, 2019 15:53:52 GMT
Still awaiting new livery I assume? The description states it's still awaiting a final livery from TfL. Anyone notice the Stagecoach esque interior despite being a now former Evobus demonstrator - it & BN17JFX were used by Stagecoach as shuttles due to numerous roads works in the Cockermouth area.
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Post by snoggle on Mar 8, 2019 18:33:40 GMT
Still awaiting new livery I assume? Interesting to see if they keep the non compliant blind displays.
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Post by snoggle on May 25, 2019 17:27:36 GMT
Looks like the Sutton area demand responsive bus service launches next week - 28th May. It will be called "Go Sutton". www.metro-report.com/news/technology/single-view/view/gosutton-on-demand-bus-service-ready-to-launch-in-south-london.htmlThe fare will be £3.50 and only payable via a bank account linked to the App to book the service. If you decide to cancel your booking after more than 1 minute of making it you'll be whacked with a £2 cancellation fee. I really can't see this trial working at all at those sorts of fares and no Oyster / Contactless acceptance. Even though Concessionary permits are valid I wonder how many seniors or those with disabilities will be willing to use an app based service.
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Post by danorak on May 26, 2019 23:43:20 GMT
Looks like the Sutton area demand responsive bus service launches next week - 28th May. It will be called "Go Sutton". www.metro-report.com/news/technology/single-view/view/gosutton-on-demand-bus-service-ready-to-launch-in-south-london.htmlThe fare will be £3.50 and only payable via a bank account linked to the App to book the service. If you decide to cancel your booking after more than 1 minute of making it you'll be whacked with a £2 cancellation fee. I really can't see this trial working at all at those sorts of fares and no Oyster / Contactless acceptance. Even though Concessionary permits are valid I wonder how many seniors or those with disabilities will be willing to use an app based service. Wasn't expecting it to be that pricey. I assume it won't count towards a daily cap or allow an onwards 'hop'.
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Post by busaholic on May 27, 2019 22:57:36 GMT
Got to say £3.50 would be about the level I'd have expected on this sort of service, and isn't unreasonable. I've looked up what Arriva charge on their demand responsive services in Sittingbourne and Liverpool and note the weekly ticket, available for max two journeys per day, is (or was last year, as the websites don't appear up to date) £22 in the former and £25 in the latter, so single tickets are almost certainly around £3 to £3.50. You can only find out when you try to book! I'd doubt that pricing will see the downfall of this experiment: much more likely to be other factors if it doesn't work out.
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Post by planesandtrains on May 27, 2019 23:30:38 GMT
Looks like the Sutton area demand responsive bus service launches next week - 28th May. It will be called "Go Sutton". www.metro-report.com/news/technology/single-view/view/gosutton-on-demand-bus-service-ready-to-launch-in-south-london.htmlThe fare will be £3.50 and only payable via a bank account linked to the App to book the service. If you decide to cancel your booking after more than 1 minute of making it you'll be whacked with a £2 cancellation fee. I really can't see this trial working at all at those sorts of fares and no Oyster / Contactless acceptance. Even though Concessionary permits are valid I wonder how many seniors or those with disabilities will be willing to use an app based service. lack of integration with the rest of the network (and the travelcard zones) will kill this trial. I can't see why someone would book this bus over a bus that will take roughly the same amount of time for £1.50. These kind of schemes should complement the network, such as call buses or taxis where it's not financially viable to run a full size bus and not compete with it.
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Post by ServerKing on May 28, 2019 4:34:21 GMT
Looks like the Sutton area demand responsive bus service launches next week - 28th May. It will be called "Go Sutton". www.metro-report.com/news/technology/single-view/view/gosutton-on-demand-bus-service-ready-to-launch-in-south-london.htmlThe fare will be £3.50 and only payable via a bank account linked to the App to book the service. If you decide to cancel your booking after more than 1 minute of making it you'll be whacked with a £2 cancellation fee. I really can't see this trial working at all at those sorts of fares and no Oyster / Contactless acceptance. Even though Concessionary permits are valid I wonder how many seniors or those with disabilities will be willing to use an app based service. At that rate, people would just Go Uber...
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Post by redexpress on May 28, 2019 6:18:45 GMT
Got to say £3.50 would be about the level I'd have expected on this sort of service, and isn't unreasonable. I've looked up what Arriva charge on their demand responsive services in Sittingbourne and Liverpool and note the weekly ticket, available for max two journeys per day, is (or was last year, as the websites don't appear up to date) £22 in the former and £25 in the latter, so single tickets are almost certainly around £3 to £3.50. You can only find out when you try to book! I'd doubt that pricing will see the downfall of this experiment: much more likely to be other factors if it doesn't work out. In deregulationland it may seem a perfectly reasonable price, but in London people will always compare it with the standard fare of £1.50. £3.50 is more than double that, which crosses a psychological barrier even if it isn't very expensive compared with minicabs or other alternatives.
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Post by snoggle on May 28, 2019 10:56:26 GMT
TfL have put out a press release given the service launches today. Hidden away at the bottom of the release is this new bit of information. Interesting that Ealing will get a trial service too. The FAQs for the Sutton trial are interesting. gosutton.co.uk/faq/You may to walk 200m to be able to get on the vehicle. If you're not at the stop when the bus arrives it'll just drive past and not wait! Heaven help you if you're running late or a bit slow on your feet or your child is playing up on the way to catch the bus. If you carry too much luggage you may not be allowed on board because the buses are small! Don't go shopping then - only one reasonably sized bag allowed.
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Post by redbus on May 28, 2019 10:58:24 GMT
Got to say £3.50 would be about the level I'd have expected on this sort of service, and isn't unreasonable. I've looked up what Arriva charge on their demand responsive services in Sittingbourne and Liverpool and note the weekly ticket, available for max two journeys per day, is (or was last year, as the websites don't appear up to date) £22 in the former and £25 in the latter, so single tickets are almost certainly around £3 to £3.50. You can only find out when you try to book! I'd doubt that pricing will see the downfall of this experiment: much more likely to be other factors if it doesn't work out. In deregulationland it may seem a perfectly reasonable price, but in London people will always compare it with the standard fare of £1.50. £3.50 is more than double that, which crosses a psychological barrier even if it isn't very expensive compared with minicabs or other alternatives. The fare question is an interesting one. For those on a tight it is a non-starter, they simply won't pay £3.50 when they can get an ordinary bus for £1.50. For those who are more cash rich, particularly the younger cash rich and time poor, this could well be just the number. I am none too sure of the demographics in Sutton, but for me it will be very interesting to see how this progresses. I do agree with snoggle that fewer senior citizens will use an app based bus. For comparison it is interesting to look at the Citymapper bus. You see relatively few senior citizens on it, and the busier times very much match when the younger are out and about.
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Post by vjaska on May 28, 2019 11:11:46 GMT
Does anyone know the identities of the vehicles to be used. MB1 is meant to be an ex 17 reg secondhand demonstrator whilst MB7-8 have appeared on bus lists.
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Post by daveshah on May 28, 2019 11:39:14 GMT
The GoSutton app charges your credit/debit card automatically per ride. Fair enough. In which case I don't understand is why "the best way to pay for GoSutton" is to pay upfront.
Perhaps because it saves them transaction fees if you make fewer larger card payments...
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