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Post by snoggle on Mar 26, 2018 16:34:56 GMT
Seems that a Wrightbus Streetdeck with just 2 axles and full air con has turned up in Hong Kong for use with KMB. Also has the glass sided staircase and frog face design. Quite a surprising development. Not my photo - www.flickr.com/photos/km30192002/39195559330/in/photostream/Photo Credit - KM30192002 on Flickr |
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Post by ServerKing on Apr 8, 2018 20:23:54 GMT
There may not be further orders if they are as slow as the Brighton ones  hopefully it has the Citaro's 6 pot OM936, something they should also do for the UK deckers. Roads are quite fast in Hong Kong so it needs to be able to cope with traffic flow, plus hilly terrain. That extra glass could make it a mobile greenhouse if the aircon is not powerful  |
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Post by snoggle on Apr 10, 2018 10:47:29 GMT
There may not be further orders if they are as slow as the Brighton ones hopefully it has the Citaro's 6 pot OM936, something they should also do for the UK deckers. Roads are quite fast in Hong Kong so it needs to be able to cope with traffic flow, plus hilly terrain. That extra glass could make it a mobile greenhouse if the aircon is not powerful It is very much standard practice in HK that operators take one or two examples of a new design and then subject them to thorough testing and evaluation before any orders are placed. I'd expect this to apply to the Streetdeck. As the vehicle has two axles then the govt will also be interested because of the axle loading regs in HK. My guess is the Streetdeck was chosen as it's a lightweight design so that will be an important factor re fuel consumption, carrying capacity and general compliance with regulations. Of course there isn't a tri-axle Streetdeck design so Wrightbus will no doubt be trying *very* hard to make this a successful trial so they can win orders for integral vehicles not just bodies. |
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Post by SILENCED on Apr 10, 2018 12:24:59 GMT
There may not be further orders if they are as slow as the Brighton ones hopefully it has the Citaro's 6 pot OM936, something they should also do for the UK deckers. Roads are quite fast in Hong Kong so it needs to be able to cope with traffic flow, plus hilly terrain. That extra glass could make it a mobile greenhouse if the aircon is not powerful Brighton have made repeat orders for Streetdecks ... So can't be as bad as you are making out! |
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Post by sid on Apr 10, 2018 12:41:53 GMT
There may not be further orders if they are as slow as the Brighton ones hopefully it has the Citaro's 6 pot OM936, something they should also do for the UK deckers. Roads are quite fast in Hong Kong so it needs to be able to cope with traffic flow, plus hilly terrain. That extra glass could make it a mobile greenhouse if the aircon is not powerful Brighton have made repeat orders for Streetdecks ... So can't be as bad as you are making out! The B&H ones on coastal route 12 couldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding! |
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Post by vjaska on Apr 10, 2018 13:08:29 GMT
There may not be further orders if they are as slow as the Brighton ones hopefully it has the Citaro's 6 pot OM936, something they should also do for the UK deckers. Roads are quite fast in Hong Kong so it needs to be able to cope with traffic flow, plus hilly terrain. That extra glass could make it a mobile greenhouse if the aircon is not powerful Brighton have made repeat orders for Streetdecks ... So can't be as bad as you are making out! Having used the ones on the 12X myself, they are terrible and struggle with the hills of which there are a number of steep ones on the route. Various other people who have used them have also said the same thing - clearly Brighton & Hove have them as Go-Ahead outside of London have been buying Wrightbus Streetdecks & Streetlites over other types except in a city where your never far away from a hill, a bus with a small engine is quite clearly going to be woeful. |
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Post by ServerKing on Apr 10, 2018 16:30:37 GMT
There may not be further orders if they are as slow as the Brighton ones hopefully it has the Citaro's 6 pot OM936, something they should also do for the UK deckers. Roads are quite fast in Hong Kong so it needs to be able to cope with traffic flow, plus hilly terrain. That extra glass could make it a mobile greenhouse if the aircon is not powerful Brighton have made repeat orders for Streetdecks ... So can't be as bad as you are making out! Wrightbus are crying out for new orders, especially as Arriva have gone ADL for large orders like everyone else. I like the design but that engine is woeful on any NSL road especially on the South Downs. So any repeat orders may be for the less demanding parts of the A259 or lower speeds in the City. A 6 cylinder lump or engine rated over 300 hp with more torque then the Streetlite engine wouldn't be such a ridiculous proposition in a double decker bus with tables as well  |
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on Apr 12, 2018 14:52:59 GMT
There may not be further orders if they are as slow as the Brighton ones hopefully it has the Citaro's 6 pot OM936, something they should also do for the UK deckers. Roads are quite fast in Hong Kong so it needs to be able to cope with traffic flow, plus hilly terrain. That extra glass could make it a mobile greenhouse if the aircon is not powerful Brighton have made repeat orders for Streetdecks ... So can't be as bad as you are making out! They ordered more because it's cheap 😶 |
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Post by SILENCED on Apr 12, 2018 21:43:19 GMT
Brighton have made repeat orders for Streetdecks ... So can't be as bad as you are making out! They ordered more because it's cheap 😶 😐 |
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Post by snowman on May 11, 2018 9:49:07 GMT
Wrightbus have won an order for Streetdecks in Mexico (lucky Mexicans ?) Link |
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Post by Lewis J.N. on May 17, 2018 0:14:19 GMT
Both the ones in HK and in Mexico have the 6-pot Daimler engine found in the Citaro (you can tell by the far larger grills) so they have the luxury of more power and torque. Curious to see if UK ops can specify that too, although with the way our industry's going no-one would want to 'fork out' for that anyway! I am (contrary to the majority) actually fairly partial to Streetdecks; I agree they're underpowered but they seem to have more grounding than a Streetlite and inside they're a very nice place to be. A 6cyl version would be ideal in my eyes, so Wright have obviously thought this through.
Even the B5TL is underpowered, it's fine on flat and downhill but uphill is woeful. The latest Volvo tri-axle is the B8L with the same 7.7L engine as the B8RLE so I'd be curious to see how that performs too.
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Post by ServerKing on May 17, 2018 18:04:35 GMT
Both the ones in HK and in Mexico have the 6-pot Daimler engine found in the Citaro (you can tell by the far larger grills) so they have the luxury of more power and torque. Curious to see if UK ops can specify that too, although with the way our industry's going no-one would want to 'fork out' for that anyway! I am (contrary to the majority) actually fairly partial to Streetdecks; I agree they're underpowered but they seem to have more grounding than a Streetlite and inside they're a very nice place to be. A 6cyl version would be ideal in my eyes, so Wright have obviously thought this through. Even the B5TL is underpowered, it's fine on flat and downhill but uphill is woeful. The latest Volvo tri-axle is the B8L with the same 7.7L engine as the B8RLE so I'd be curious to see how that performs too. They should retrofit UK StreetDecks with the bigger OM936. Perhaps someone from Wrightbus reads this Forum! Seeing the StreetDeck struggle to 50 was painful on the YouTube videos. Hopefully they can offer the bigger engine, especially as Euro6 for UK buyers  |
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Post by snowman on Oct 10, 2018 18:05:26 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Oct 10, 2018 19:53:03 GMT
That's a clever bit of technology. Given some HK air con buses are like fridges when you go inside I dread to think what they'd be like if 10c cooler - you'd need to wear an insulated coat. |
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Post by snowman on Jan 16, 2019 11:45:13 GMT
KMB has ordered 50 Streetdecks 10.65m 2-axle versions (already have 1 for evaluation) KMB has also ordered another 50 double decks on Volvo B8L tri axle chassis Buses Mag LinkThe Streetdecks will have the 6 cylinder OM936 engine (which is now also available in UK), until now UK Streetdecks have had the 4 cylinder OM934 without the more powerful option |
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hopefully it has the Citaro's 6 pot OM936, something they should also do for the UK deckers. Roads are quite fast in Hong Kong so it needs to be able to cope with traffic flow, plus hilly terrain. That extra glass could make it a mobile greenhouse if the aircon is not powerful 
