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Post by DE20106 on May 4, 2018 10:55:05 GMT
Sorry I should have been a bit more specific there, it’s secluded around the Tower Hill area, Tower Street etc. I got stuck there once and had no choice but to wait for the 15, with the next one being in 17 minutes (it was playing up), I was walking somewhere and I got lost lol. There must be loads of places on the bus network where only one bus runs along a road so wouldn't really single out the 15 as secluded and to be honest it's easier sometimes to walk in central London. No I guess not, but it just stood out to me because the nearest stop for another route was a really long walk away, made more difficult as the roads are difficult to cross. Obviously in the suburbs that’s pretty common but I can’t think of anywhere really in Central London where you’re stuck with just one route not in close proximity to another (possibly the C10 around Pimlico?) The 40 runs alone for a little of Fenchurch Street but a small walk up it connects you with other routes. |
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Post by RandomBusesGirl on May 4, 2018 11:08:37 GMT
The 360 has a ridiculous walk between stops in the Pimlico area, between Westmoreland Terrace and Lister Hospital - I know it does the double run via Bull Ring Gate towards Royal Albert in-between the two, but for there to not be any stops at Grosvenor Road is ridiculous.
And I've had to run between the two twice - do not recommend it!!!
I'd have thought this is a touristy route too.
The omission of the 11 is absurd as even the papers few years ago suggested it as the best and £1.50 cheap alternative to a tour bus...
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Post by busaholic on May 4, 2018 21:18:49 GMT
The 360 has a ridiculous walk between stops in the Pimlico area, between Westmoreland Terrace and Lister Hospital - I know it does the double run via Bull Ring Gate towards Royal Albert in-between the two, but for there to not be any stops at Grosvenor Road is ridiculous. And I've had to run between the two twice - do not recommend it!!! I'd have thought this is a touristy route too. The omission of the 11 is absurd as even the papers few years ago suggested it as the best and £1.50 cheap alternative to a tour bus... The 11 is now so infrequent that TfL probably don't want to encourage anyone to use it who doesn't absolutely need to. As a boy, I used to stand on the western side of Trafalgar Square to watch the RTW buses on the 11 and 24 come up Whitehall and swing round the square, and many's the time I'd have five 11s in sight, all going in this direction, and as many as seven on occasion, all going through to Aldwych and probably about half to Liverpool Street. |
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Post by mondraker275 on May 5, 2018 8:02:32 GMT
I got to give some credit here to TfL with this piece of work (it's been easy bashing them). A low budget, clever way of getting people to use the buses. I also love the leaflet design, very nice and the detail is good. Personally and probably most people here, use buses to site see rather than tour buses or anything else.
I wonder what TfL are doing to advertise this, where the leaflets are being distributed and whether there is some linked Ibus messages or displays.
All we need now is some open top buses.....
On the 11, it is the slowest route in London and maybe that had something to do with it. It's so slow, you probably have time to get off take some pictures and get back on the next stop.
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Post by DE20106 on May 5, 2018 9:35:15 GMT
I got to give some credit here to TfL with this piece of work (it's been easy bashing them). A low budget, clever way of getting people to use the buses. I also love the leaflet design, very nice and the detail is good. Personally and probably most people here, use buses to site see rather than tour buses or anything else. I wonder what TfL are doing to advertise this, where the leaflets are being distributed and whether there is some linked Ibus messages or displays. All we need now is some open top buses..... On the 11, it is the slowest route in London and maybe that had something to do with it. It's so slow, you probably have time to get off take some pictures and get back on the next stop. I think it’s a good idea also, it is easy to bash it as a blatant way to recover lost patronage, but I can completely empathise. Even though they’re in difficulty financially they’re determined to not screw passengers over with sky high fares which is very commendable, they’re just looking for other ways to attract revenue. I just get cynical and don’t like it when a company (very general comment here because nearly every company does it) blatantly tries to pull the wool over its customers’ eyes (okay, lie to their customers). For example saying a company is committed to doing something and then going back on it, e.g. stop the purchasing of purely diesel double deckers, but then buying in the StreetDeck and “Smart” vehicles and then dressing them up as hybrids, which I just posted about in another thread. An iBus announcement would be a good idea, and I’d also say a good idea is to put these leaflets for all the ‘leisure’ routes on all the route TfL have singled out. E.g. they could go on the 139 to Abbey road and pick up a leaflet for the 17 and then go and take that later. Apparently there are some ‘convertible’ buses according to my bus handbooks, but I can’t imagine how they would work, but the concept of it is an extremely good idea. I would probably go as far as saying the 11 is the slowest route in London, RV1 probably matches it. Absolutely hate that route also, for some reason I really begrudge ‘touristy’ routes but I can’t really explain why. The 9, 10, 11, 15, 24, 38, 73, 88, 148, 205, RV1 I hate all of them. That said the 139 has been singled out by TfL is one of my favourite routes, and I do like the 23. I think it’s because the tourist routes are all really slow, because they all go through the busiest bits of Zone 1. |
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Post by vjaska on May 5, 2018 10:04:41 GMT
I got to give some credit here to TfL with this piece of work (it's been easy bashing them). A low budget, clever way of getting people to use the buses. I also love the leaflet design, very nice and the detail is good. Personally and probably most people here, use buses to site see rather than tour buses or anything else. I wonder what TfL are doing to advertise this, where the leaflets are being distributed and whether there is some linked Ibus messages or displays. All we need now is some open top buses..... On the 11, it is the slowest route in London and maybe that had something to do with it. It's so slow, you probably have time to get off take some pictures and get back on the next stop. I think it’s a good idea also, it is easy to bash it as a blatant way to recover lost patronage, but I can completely empathise. Even though they’re in difficulty financially they’re determined to not screw passengers over with sky high fares which is very commendable, they’re just looking for other ways to attract revenue. I just get cynical and don’t like it when a company (very general comment here because nearly every company does it) blatantly tries to pull the wool over its customers’ eyes (okay, lie to their customers). For example saying a company is committed to doing something and then going back on it, e.g. stop the purchasing of purely diesel double deckers, but then buying in the StreetDeck and “Smart” vehicles and then dressing them up as hybrids, which I just posted about in another thread. An iBus announcement would be a good idea, and I’d also say a good idea is to put these leaflets for all the ‘leisure’ routes on all the route TfL have singled out. E.g. they could go on the 139 to Abbey road and pick up a leaflet for the 17 and then go and take that later. Apparently there are some ‘convertible’ buses according to my bus handbooks, but I can’t imagine how they would work, but the concept of it is an extremely good idea. I would probably go as far as saying the 11 is the slowest route in London, RV1 probably matches it. Absolutely hate that route also, for some reason I really begrudge ‘touristy’ routes but I can’t really explain why. The 9, 10, 11, 15, 24, 38, 73, 88, 148, 205, RV1 I hate all of them. That said the 139 has been singled out by TfL is one of my favourite routes, and I do like the 23. I think it’s because the tourist routes are all really slow, because they all go through the busiest bits of Zone 1. Your confusing company & mayor - it is the mayor who dictates the fares set & it was also the mayor who said no more diesel double deckers would be ordered though it wasn't the first time they went back on this pledge (it happened under Boris as well). Convertible open tops are generally used on routes who have an open top element during the summer but who need their roof outside of that period - for example, the 77 to Devils d**e in Brighton used convertible East Lancs Lolynes which outside of the summer season would run on the non open top routes. |
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Post by snoggle on May 5, 2018 10:35:16 GMT
I got to give some credit here to TfL with this piece of work (it's been easy bashing them). A low budget, clever way of getting people to use the buses. I also love the leaflet design, very nice and the detail is good. Personally and probably most people here, use buses to site see rather than tour buses or anything else. I wonder what TfL are doing to advertise this, where the leaflets are being distributed and whether there is some linked Ibus messages or displays. This is actually TfL's second attempt at this initiative I believe. Diamond Geezer wrote about it months ago but I'm sure the routes used were different. As ever with TfL I suspect they are doing NOTHING to advertise this. The philosophy is "It's on the website and people can print a copy if they wish". I'll be astonished if they have printed any leaflets themselves because of the potential for waste and litter. That'd be completely contrary to "green" policies. I do find it marginally ludicrous that they go to this trouble to promote routes which are not especially "touristy" when they can't be bothered to produce bus maps which could help people travel past literally thousands of touristy places right across the capital. They're not all in Zone 1 after all. If they really put their minds to it they could identify and link to museums, parks, palaces, gardens, monuments etc etc right across London but no can't be bothered to do that. As a somewhat ridiculous example take the 123 - William Morris Gallery, Valentines Park and Mansion, Bruce Grove Almshouses, Walthamstow Wetlands, Walthamstow Town Hall (nice art deco design), Bruce Castle Museum and Park. There is absolutely no effort *by TfL* to promote visits by bus and yet they are all perfectly decent places to visit and enjoy. I am sure many routes in London serve attractive and viable visitor locations but you'd never know. And there is the general fun and enjoyment - usually - of simply enjoying watching the world go by as you ride along on a bus (but perhaps that's just me  ). |
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2018 5:08:38 GMT
This is a step in the right direction. They could start to encourage day trippers out to places like Hampton Court Palace. Maybe they could extend the 267 back there on Sundays ( OK a step too far )
The 65 is a good outer London tourist route, linking Kew Gardens, Steam Musuem, Ham House, Richmond Park, Riverside at Richmond and Kingston and Brentford plus the delights of Ealing Broadway.
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Post by ServerKing on May 7, 2018 8:16:38 GMT
I visited the site and it appears to have been updated overnight with a couple of more routes   |
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Post by busoccultation on May 7, 2018 11:51:35 GMT
Seeing that I live near to Barkingside and TFL wants to promote all Barkingside routes it only seems fitting that I'll do one . Bus Leisure Route 247: For stunning countryside views  : Take Bus Route 247 to see the Countryside and Farm Lands inside London from the upper deck of a 247. It goes to Hainault Forest Country Park where there is a fishing lake and Nature Trail and Hainault Forest Golf Club along the route. It goes to Romford where you can visit Romford Market and three shopping centers over there where you can do your shopping as well. All stops along the route have yellow strips on the number tile and most buses have yellow branding with a Map inside the bus. Bus Leisure Route 462: For nice day out for you and your family in Fairlop : Take Bus Route 462 to visit Fairlop Waters Country Park where you can spend a day over there doing various activities such as canoeing, play golf, visit the lake and many more things do. It goes to Ilford can do your shopping in the Exchange Mall and in the town centre. All stops along the route have orange strips on the number tile and most buses have orange branding with a Map inside the bus. Also, I’ll do one for just for certain members on the forum  : Bus Leisure Route 123: A Route that takes you from one part of London to the other: Take the 123 from Ilford in East London, from there to Gants Hill it parallels with many routes and passes Exchange Mall and Valentines Park. From Gants Hill to Waterworks Corner near Woodford it goes along the dual carriageways with speeds up to 50mph, then it passes Walthamstow where you can see the Town hall, Lloyd park and William Morris Gallery, it then passes to “Snoggleville”  where Dr snoggle Lives  , just before you approach Tottenham there is the newly opened Walthamstow Wetlands. Once you pass Tottenham Hale you find yourself in North London. It passes Bruce Grove Station which is 10-minute walk from soon to be opened Tottenham Hotspur Stadium and Bruce Castle Park which is a Grade I listed 16th-century house in Tottenham. It then approaches Benz-Valley where ServerKing lives (Aka the satirist formerly known as Server King  ) and before reaches Turnpike Lane Station and then Wood Green where the 123 terminates in North London  . |
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