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Post by planesandtrains on May 24, 2018 23:26:27 GMT
Funnily enough I have used the present version of the 702 within between Hammersmith and Victoria on a few occasions , £2 flat fare which isn't bad compared to TFL fares! I didn't realise you could do that. As you say, £2 is a fair price for the convenience. Perhaps you can even pay cash too? While it is listed on the fare chart, the timetable states set down only since the 702/3 changes on the way into London. You can pay either cash or contactless but not with Oyster.
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Post by wirewiper on May 25, 2018 10:49:05 GMT
In the New Cross area, routes 701,702,703,704 and 705 all shared a stop! I only once used a Green Line for an Inner London journey, Lewisham Odeon to Hyde Park Corner on the 705. The conductor apologised for the rather large fare he had to charge me, but I said I didn't mind as there was a rail strike on and I had to travel. When he discovered I worked for London Transport he didn't charge me anyway Funnily enough I have used the present version of the 702 within between Hammersmith and Victoria on a few occasions , £2 flat fare which isn't bad compared to TFL fares! Oxford Tube have £5 fares between all their London stops on Christmas Day.
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Post by riverside on Jun 4, 2018 16:58:03 GMT
The 71,72,73 and 74B all touched Hammersmith in the 1960s, I believe at the same time. The first three all went to, or past, Brook Green Hotel, so it was quite possible those three shared a stop. Let me say, before anyone else does, that the MAIN 73 didn't go to Brook Green but there was an in-service section, worked mostly by Mortlake garage buses, that did from the Richmond direction and I'm pretty sure that 73 E-plates existed on those stops. If I were giving out a trophy for the best answer you would definitely be the recipient In Hammersmith during the 1960s at the same time you had the 71,72,73,74(garage journeys) and 74b you also had the 266,267 and 268. The latter 3 all served Hammersmith but were kept apart by a few yards as the 268 navigated the Hammersmith gyratory while the 266 and 267 stopped a few yards short and terminated in the old Hammersmith Grove stand between King Street and Beadon Road. Until the huge reorganisation of services on 31/12/66 the 73 ran daily between Stoke Newington and Hounslow. Monday to Saturday Mortlake 73s provided regular short workings between Hammersmith(Brook Green Hotel) and Hounslow(Bus Station). Busaholic you are correct as there was an e plate for the 73 at the compulsory stop by Hammersmith Library on the Shepherds Bush Road, although 73s rarely ever had to stop there. On 31/12/66 the 33 returned to the area and took over these workings from the 73. The revived 33 only operated Monday to Saturday but on Sundays the 73 would operate all the way through from Stoke newington to Hounslow. In those days we still had a bus service on Christmas Day and although a unique service was planned by LT for the day it was meant to respect the dictates of Sunday operations. So for one day a year the 73 returned to the Brook Green stand operating as far as Twickenham Station. All these journeys were operated by Mortlake Garage and continued right up to the cessation of Christmas Day services. I think Tottenham buses just got as far as Hammersmith on that day so there were no through buses.
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Post by busaholic on Jun 4, 2018 20:35:34 GMT
If I were giving out a trophy for the best answer you would definitely be the recipient In Hammersmith during the 1960s at the same time you had the 71,72,73,74(garage journeys) and 74b you also had the 266,267 and 268. The latter 3 all served Hammersmith but were kept apart by a few yards as the 268 navigated the Hammersmith gyratory while the 266 and 267 stopped a few yards short and terminated in the old Hammersmith Grove stand between King Street and Beadon Road. Until the huge reorganisation of services on 31/12/66 the 73 ran daily between Stoke Newington and Hounslow. Monday to Saturday Mortlake 73s provided regular short workings between Hammersmith(Brook Green Hotel) and Hounslow(Bus Station). Busaholic you are correct as there was an e plate for the 73 at the compulsory stop by Hammersmith Library on the Shepherds Bush Road, although 73s rarely ever had to stop there. On 31/12/66 the 33 returned to the area and took over these workings from the 73. The revived 33 only operated Monday to Saturday but on Sundays the 73 would operate all the way through from Stoke newington to Hounslow. In those days we still had a bus service on Christmas Day and although a unique service was planned by LT for the day it was meant to respect the dictates of Sunday operations. So for one day a year the 73 returned to the Brook Green stand operating as far as Twickenham Station. All these journeys were operated by Mortlake Garage and continued right up to the cessation of Christmas Day services. I think Tottenham buses just got as far as Hammersmith on that day so there were no through buses. Lovely to hear it from someone like you who really knew the area, rather than an outsider like me, albeit one who's always had great affection for the placeJ (my mother grew up in Barnes). Just a couple of footnotes: Hounslow (AV) buses worked through to Stoke Newington on Sundays, because the only time I did a long journey on that day I was surprised at finding an AV bus. Also, I believe a panel timetable covered the Brook Green to Hounslow journeys, showing all workings west of Richmond Bus Stn.
While on this whole subject, I'd like to mention this sequence of route numbers covering Morden and South Wimbledon, each of which were operated by Sutton or Merton garages, although not every route met each other route. Here goes - 151,152,154,155,156 and 157. The 156 was that true rarity, a completely circular (as opposed to frying pan style) route and afforded me hours of pleasure as a child spotting at Morden Station close to my godmother's house.
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Post by Ted Barclay on Jun 4, 2018 22:41:21 GMT
The 156 was unusual in that as well as being a circular route from Morden Station operating both ways in a loop via Sutton - Cheam - Worcester Park, it also had a short working service between North Cheam and St. Helier across Morden.
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Post by busaholic on Jun 4, 2018 23:02:55 GMT
The 156 was unusual in that as well as being a circular route from Morden Station operating both ways in a loop via Sutton - Cheam - Worcester Park, it also had a short working service between North Cheam and St. Helier across Morden. I never knew that, possibly because I only saw the weekend service. Actually, I find that very interesting, given TGWU intransigence in so many things, but then AL allowed another very un-London thing to happen, namely early journeys on the 164 to be worked by buses allocated to the 77a.
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Post by M1104 on Jun 5, 2018 13:17:16 GMT
In Hammersmith during the 1960s at the same time you had the 71,72,73,74(garage journeys) and 74b you also had the 266,267 and 268. The latter 3 all served Hammersmith but were kept apart by a few yards as the 268 navigated the Hammersmith gyratory while the 266 and 267 stopped a few yards short and terminated in the old Hammersmith Grove stand between King Street and Beadon Road. Until the huge reorganisation of services on 31/12/66 the 73 ran daily between Stoke Newington and Hounslow. Monday to Saturday Mortlake 73s provided regular short workings between Hammersmith(Brook Green Hotel) and Hounslow(Bus Station). Busaholic you are correct as there was an e plate for the 73 at the compulsory stop by Hammersmith Library on the Shepherds Bush Road, although 73s rarely ever had to stop there. On 31/12/66 the 33 returned to the area and took over these workings from the 73. The revived 33 only operated Monday to Saturday but on Sundays the 73 would operate all the way through from Stoke newington to Hounslow. In those days we still had a bus service on Christmas Day and although a unique service was planned by LT for the day it was meant to respect the dictates of Sunday operations. So for one day a year the 73 returned to the Brook Green stand operating as far as Twickenham Station. All these journeys were operated by Mortlake Garage and continued right up to the cessation of Christmas Day services. I think Tottenham buses just got as far as Hammersmith on that day so there were no through buses. Lovely to hear it from someone like you who really knew the area, rather than an outsider like me, albeit one who's always had great affection for the placeJ (my mother grew up in Barnes). Just a couple of footnotes: Hounslow (AV) buses worked through to Stoke Newington on Sundays, because the only time I did a long journey on that day I was surprised at finding an AV bus. Also, I believe a panel timetable covered the Brook Green to Hounslow journeys, showing all workings west of Richmond Bus Stn.
While on this whole subject, I'd like to mention this sequence of route numbers covering Morden and South Wimbledon, each of which were operated by Sutton or Merton garages, although not every route met each other route. Here goes - 151,152,154,155,156 and 157. The 156 was that true rarity, a completely circular (as opposed to frying pan style) route and afforded me hours of pleasure as a child spotting at Morden Station close to my godmother's house.
A similar set of routes in that aspect are the 35, 36 and 37 in the Peckham and Camberwell areas... again no point of area where all three routes meet.
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Post by NWBusConnoisseur on Jun 5, 2018 20:22:23 GMT
The 302 and 303 operate together in Deansbrook and the 305 is close by too if you ignore the 304 gap. The 182 and 183 briefly meet in Harrow too.
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Post by busaholic on Jun 5, 2018 20:35:14 GMT
Hornchurch used to have the 246,248 and 249 operating from its garage, plus 250 terminating there. Unfortunately the 247 group of routes, though passing nearby, never quite made it to Hornchurch as far as I'm aware.
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Post by VWH1414 on Jun 6, 2018 19:19:09 GMT
The 302 and 303 operate together in Deansbrook and the 305 is close by too if you ignore the 304 gap. Sadly this won't be the case soon, with the idiotic 303 plan that is going to ruin half the route and probably make it lose patronage
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Post by britishguy54 on Sept 22, 2023 16:59:28 GMT
346 and 347 at Upminster.
496, 497, 498, and 499 at Gallows Corner.
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Post by mb171 on Sept 22, 2023 19:17:19 GMT
It's so close to becoming a consecutive sequence but 177, 178 and 180 meet in Woolwich. If only there was the 179 it would've been consecutive.
Similarly with the 51, 53, 54. 52 is all the way in North West London which ruins the sequence.
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