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Post by wirewiper on Jul 18, 2018 18:14:43 GMT
Following on from this thread, which talks about Go-Ahead winning a franchise to operate some routes in Dublin: tangytango.proboards.com/thread/10215/ahead-win-outer-dublinIt has now been announced that the entire Dublin bus network will be redesigned, affecting every bus route in the city.
Routes to and from the city centre will be restructured into seven core high-frequency (up to every 4 minutes) "spines", identified by letters A to G. As routes branch off the spine they will be denoted by a suffix number (so A1, A2 and so on). Long, slow and infrequent routes from the outer suburbs to the city centre will be replaced by higher-frequency feeder services that will connect with the high-frequency spines, or in some cases the LUAS trams. These will be joined by high-frequency orbital routes - at present orbital routes in Dublin are far and few between and passengers often have to travel via the city centre to reach an adjacent area. These too will offer connections with the high-frequency spines. Although not direct, using an orbital route and changing to a spine route will mean higher frequencies and faster journeys for many passengers. Extensive bus priority measures are envisaged along the main corridors. A public consultation has just been announced. It has details of the proposed new network and routes, and is inviting the public to comment on the proposals. www.busconnects.ie/initiatives/dublin-area-bus-network-redesign-public-consultation-report/The new network is planned for introduction in late 2019. |
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Post by wirewiper on Sept 23, 2018 18:03:50 GMT
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Post by wirewiper on Sept 24, 2018 16:32:52 GMT
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Post by snowman on Sept 27, 2018 10:38:04 GMT
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Post by snoggle on Sept 27, 2018 10:49:18 GMT
Mr Walker does seem to be either a very sensitive "flower" who is upset when people criticise his ideas or so arrogant that he reacts badly when he receives criticism. Hard to know which it is. All that article shows is that if you muck up the comms process you allow your opponents to steal a march in shaping public opinion. That is hardly a ground breaking observation as any remotely experienced PR / comms person would know that. Why didn't they simply delay the consultation process until the local brochures were available? Seems a simple enough thing to do. I wonder how badly TfL is going to run its consultation process over the large scale changes that are coming our way?   I note that the Fingal network is likely to emerge unscathed. Guess which area the Irish PM represents? Cynical? Moi? |
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Post by sid on Sept 27, 2018 11:01:40 GMT
I don't know Dublin well enough to comment on the pros and cons of the changes but the negative vibes are not altogether surprising, many people will just see it as a hassle having to get used to a totally new network without looking beyond that. |
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Post by riverside on Oct 1, 2018 11:20:44 GMT
On the Today programme on RTE Radio 1 last week the 'Bus Connect' proposals for Dublin were discussed. 20,000 submissions have been received from the public commenting on the proposals. The size of the response seems to have taken the National Transport Authority by surprise. Anne Graham from the NTA promised that all the submissions would be examined.
The report included recordings from a meeting that had been organised by Sinn Fein in the East Wall district of inner city Dublin(very near to the ferryport). They will lose their long established 53 service that connects them hourly to the city centre to be replaced by an hourly 63 that will start from City West which is way out on the outskirts of the other side of Dublin. The residents quite rightly say that this new service will be far more prone to disruption than the current route and so the service to East Wall will deteriorate.Also if the residents of the area wished to travel out in the direction of City West they would make that journey by the Luas Red Line which would be far quicker. Of even more concern to them is that the current 151 service that starts by Docklands Station and runs every 20 minutes will be withdrawn completely. Other comments made claimed that Clondalkin will suffer a significant decline in service. I think Leo Varadkar is feeling some heat on this issue as he recently stated that there should be major changes to the plans. The final plan will be published next year.
Residents from Kimmage Road in Harolds Cross were concerned about the new bus lanes. They claimed that some of the roads in their area will become one way for cars with just one lane in the middle of the road with bus lanes on either side travelling in opposite directions.
The major concern for people was the loss of a direct service to the city centre. The union rep for Dublin Bus also made the point that these proposals had to be viewed in conjunction with plans for a pedestrian plaza at College Green which could make it virtually impossible for some bus services from the south city being able to access O'Connell Street. Over the next 12 months it will be interesting to observe and compare the reactions by the public and politicians in both Dublin and London to the major changes looming on the horizon for their respective bus networks.
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Post by snoggle on Oct 1, 2018 15:47:17 GMT
On the Today programme on RTE Radio 1 last week the 'Bus Connect' proposals for Dublin were discussed. 20,000 submissions have been received from the public commenting on the proposals. The size of the response seems to have taken the National Transport Authority by surprise. Anne Graham from the NTA promised that all the submissions would be examined. Other comments made claimed that Clondalkin will suffer a significant decline in service. I think Leo Varadkar is feeling some heat on this issue as he recently stated that there should be major changes to the plans. The final plan will be published next year. Over the next 12 months it will be interesting to observe and compare the reactions by the public and politicians in both Dublin and London to the major changes looming on the horizon for their respective bus networks. Interesting that the Irish PM is "feeling the heat". If only the Mayor of London was feeling the heat over the shambles being foisted on London. I note that London Travelwatch have expressed concerns about the scale of the cuts and is casting doubt on TfL's rather stupid "averaged" statistics for things like waiting times. |
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